Re: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake

2003-09-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:42:37 -0500 snip Oh, and the neighbor that Dan's most friendly with

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bryon Daly wrote: From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Julia Thompson wrote: (I was living in New England in the mid-1980s. 'Nuff said. At least I was used to that sort of thing, being a Red Sox fan and all) You should hate the Raiders too then, eh? Doesn't everyone hate the Raiders?

Re: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake

2003-09-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Sep 2003 at 0:53, Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:42:37 -0500 snip Oh, and the

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread TomFODW
For someone to want to restore a men only institution could well be a desire to return to misogyny, but it might not. I'm not sure that we should immediately assume they're just a bunch of scumbag racists. And sexists. And almost certainly anti-Semites. I can't expect someone in

RE: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:01 AM 9/8/03 -0500, Horn, John wrote: From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tangent When I was in grade school, we did soap carvings once. Everyone had to bring in a bar of soap and a pocketknife. (I'm guessing the pocketknife would be forbidden these days) I managed to

Re: strange snail mail

2003-09-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Bryon Daly wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I'm part of a branch of a family that was found in the past few years. Got a call right after a Super Bowl, from my father's second cousin. Guy lives in Gonzales. Never met him yet, but we e-mail a lot. I got my favorite cousin

Re: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake

2003-09-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:42:37 -0500 snip Oh, and the neighbor that Dan's most

RE: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Chad Cooper
-Original Message- From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Decline in SF? This article by Spider Robinson laments the decline in SF, replaced by backwards-looking Fantasy:

Edward Teller, 1908-2003

2003-09-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/obituaries/10TELL.html?hp ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread The Fool
From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This article by Spider Robinson laments the decline in SF, replaced by backwards-looking Fantasy: http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20 030908/COSPIDER08/ or:

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-10 Thread TomFODW
What owners are *not* hated by fans? New York Giants fans (of which I am proud to be a lifelong member) practically worship Wellington Mara. We're not as sure about Bob Tisch, but that may just be a sort of good cop/bad cop kind of thing, where Mara is the Grand Old Man (he just turned 87),

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Pensinger wrote: I used to be a Raider hater, but after all their fans have gone through, I don't hate them anymore. I even think that they got robbed in the AFC championship a couple years ago on that bogus not a fumble call. It was a pass attempt,

Re: Edward Teller, 1908-2003

2003-09-10 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/10/2003 10:11:46 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/obituaries/10TELL.html?hp What will Penn do with the act, now that Teller is gone, I wonder... What? It's not

Re: Edward Teller, 1908-2003

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Edward Teller, 1908-2003 Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:30:05 -0500 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/obituaries/10TELL.html?hp On a less Wibberly note... :) The final two

Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . .

2003-09-10 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/338903.html Last Update: 10/09/2003 17:46 Egyptian lawyer to sue Jews for biblical 'plunder' By Reuters CAIRO - An Egyptian lawyer said on Wednesday he was planning to sue the world's Jews for plundering gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt

Re: Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . .

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . . Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:02:56 -0500 http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/338903.html Last Update: 10/09/2003 17:46 Egyptian lawyer to sue Jews for biblical 'plunder' By Reuters

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: Decline in SF? From: Chad Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This article by

RE: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 08:17 AM 9/10/2003 -0700, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Bryon Daly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Decline in SF? This article by Spider Robinson laments the decline in SF, replaced by backwards-looking

RE: Brin: Forward, into the past

2003-09-10 Thread A . Freiberg
I read this one completely and agree. It sometimes can make me sad. Regards Armin Freiberg -- From: The Fool[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply To: Killer Bs Discussion Sent: Dienstag, 9. September 2003 13:24 To: Brin-L Subject: Brin: Forward, into the past

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 09:30 AM 9/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: For someone to want to restore a men only institution could well be a desire to return to misogyny, but it might not. I'm not sure that we should immediately assume they're just a bunch of scumbag racists. And sexists. And almost certainly

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 3:26 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again! Tom knows all! Tom sees all! He knows the evil that dwells in men's hearts. Who are you to

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again! Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 09:30:11 EDT For someone to want to restore a men only institution could well be a desire to return to misogyny, but it might

Re: Edward Teller, 1908-2003

2003-09-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 10 Sep 2003 at 15:19, Jan Coffey wrote: Copy and past. I refuse to give NYT my info. login: brinl / brinl Handy, neh? Andy --- Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/obituaries/10TELL.html?hp

Re: Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . .

2003-09-10 Thread Russell Chapman
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: CAIRO - An Egyptian lawyer said on Wednesday he was planning to sue the world's Jews for plundering gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt thousands of years ago, based on information in the Bible. Umm - a couple of obvious things - you can't sue a race of people,

Re: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake

2003-09-10 Thread Russell Chapman
Andrew Crystall wrote: Grass snakes, on the other hand, are common just round here, and I've been bitten by several including one especially large seven inch example. Ow. Phhbbbt... Seven inches is the size of the fangs on our snakes... :-) I'm curious about being bitten - (Being bitten by

Re: Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . .

2003-09-10 Thread Jan Coffey
--- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: CAIRO - An Egyptian lawyer said on Wednesday he was planning to sue the world's Jews for plundering gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt thousands of years ago, based on information in the Bible. Umm - a

Re: Scouted: Lawyers are evil and must be destroyed . . .

2003-09-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: --- Russell Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ronn!Blankenship wrote: CAIRO - An Egyptian lawyer said on Wednesday he was planning to sue the world's Jews for plundering gold during the Exodus from Pharaonic Egypt thousands of years ago, based on information in the

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Chad Cooper wrote: snip Frankly I have a confession - I have not read any new sci-fi, other than Brin for about a year. I am looking for good recommendations. Would anyone on the list have any ideas for a good book to read :-) (Please limit your suggestion to one per person. - thank you)

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Dan wrote: snip Which people are you talking about? The main complaint on UseNet has been that nothing happens but sniffing and folding of arms across one's bosom for page after page after page. Winter's Heart has as many pages (to with 5) of Path of Daggers. The type set is slightly

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread TomFODW
Frankly I have a confession - I have not read any new sci-fi, other than Brin for about a year. I am looking for good recommendations. Would anyone on the list have any ideas for a good book to read :-) (Please limit your suggestion to one per person. - thank you) His Dark Materials

Re: Misplaced mail, interesting neighbor, snake

2003-09-10 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 11 Sep 2003 at 9:01, Russell Chapman wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: Grass snakes, on the other hand, are common just round here, and I've been bitten by several including one especially large seven inch example. Ow. Phhbbbt... Seven inches is the size of the fangs on our snakes...

RE: Scouted: The Ultimate Roleplaying Purity Score

2003-09-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
John Horn wrote: I made a somewhat passable carving of the state of New Jersey out of Ivory when I was in school. Must be something that was done in a lot of different schools. Ronn! replied: Bet you're glad you didn't grow up in Hawaii. Or even Alaska. Colorado or Wyoming, OTOH . . . Even

Re: 2003 NFL Preview

2003-09-10 Thread Reggie Bautista
Bryon Daly wrote: Doesn't everyone hate the Raiders? ;-) You mean Kansas City isn't the only city where you can by Raider Hater t-shirts and sweatshirts? Reggie Bautista GO CHIEFS! Maru _ Express yourself with MSN Messenger 6.0 --

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jon Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snippage throughout [Russell I think?] For someone to want to restore a men only institution could well be a desire to return to misogyny, but it might not. I'm not sure that we should immediately assume they're just

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
There was a very funny book called _Andrew the Big Deal_ (juvenile fiction), in which the geeky Air Force brat discovers that one of his new classmates is a Chinese descendent of Robert E. Lee, and yelps I mean, the South will rise again Ma'am! as he's extracting himself from an elderly lady's

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Chad Cooper wrote: I would agree. I find it very hard to find good sci-fi that strikes me in the same way as say Pournelle, Asimov, Heinlein, Poul or Niven (and more recently Brin :-)). I think this is pure nonsense. Generations come, generations go. We are all fans of a past generation of

Re: Farewell to the Werewolves of London

2003-09-10 Thread John Garcia
On Tuesday, Sep 9, 2003, at 21:37 America/New_York, G. D. Akin wrote: John Garcia wrote Apologies if this has been posted already Warren Zevon died on Sunday past from lung cancer. New York Times obituary at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/09/09/arts/music/09ZEVO.html Maybe Letterman will

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
Chad Cooper wrote: I am looking for good recommendations. Would anyone on the list have any ideas for a good book to read :-) (Please limit your suggestion to one per person. - thank you) Simmons' Illium - in hardcover now. Doug About 60 pages into it, so far so good

Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again!

2003-09-10 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: The South Will Rise Again! Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:28:09 -0700 (PDT) There was a very funny book called _Andrew the Big Deal_ (juvenile

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which people are you talking about? The main complaint on UseNet has been that nothing happens but sniffing and folding of arms across one's bosom for page after page after page. Winter's Heart has as many pages (to with 5) of Path of Daggers. The

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Doug Pensinger
The Fool wrote: He laments on how long Jordan's books are, he knows its pulp, but he reads it anyway. These newer ones aren't long enough. After Crown of swords every single book has been 1/2 the size of previous books. That's why a lot of people are whining about the new books. They are

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 07:54:24PM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: And _nothing_ happened. It was ridiculous. I cannot think of a _single_ plot point of any significance that occurred in the entire book. Heck, I can't think of a single plot point from the entire book. I can't remember the

RE: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Over 1,000 pages of thrills, spills, vicious aliens and noble humans. I found Battlefield Earth un-put-downable. — Neil Gaiman Did Neil Gaiman really say that about Battlefield Earth? He's not a Scientologist, is he? I read BE when it

Re: Dastardly spammer

2003-09-10 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish there was more to the story, but not yet. I can't even quite figure out where to report this spammer, since he's going through proxy servers. I guess there needs to be proxy server black hole list. You said this was effectively a DOS attack, and DOS

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread Julia Thompson
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which people are you talking about? The main complaint on UseNet has been that nothing happens but sniffing and folding of arms across one's bosom for page after page after page. Winter's Heart has as many pages (to

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Erik Reuter snip If you prefer quality to quantity, go for George R. R. Martin. He'll release no book before its time... As evidenced by his A Feast for Crows being shifted from a September '03 to a Spring '04 release date. George A ___

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Bryon Daly wrote Over 1,000 pages of thrills, spills, vicious aliens and noble humans. I found Battlefield Earth un-put-downable. - Neil Gaiman Did Neil Gaiman really say that about Battlefield Earth? He's not a Scientologist, is he? I read BE when it first came out,

Re: Decline in SF?

2003-09-10 Thread G. D. Akin
Doug Pensinger wrote snip Long ain't the problem. The problem is they suck. The first one was great, but they became less and less substantial until by the time I quit reading them (either book 6 or 16, it doesn't much matter) they were boring as hell. I always thought that he should