Assorted grumblings + Re: Meteorite hits Iran

2004-01-03 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.reuters.co.uk/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=worldNewsstoryID=431728 A meteorite has hit northern Iran ... snip snip snip ... Iranians are currently mourning at least 30,000 people killed by an earthquake measuring 6.8 on the Richter scale which struck

RE: Davidbrin.com blocked by WebSense

2004-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn
Ronn wrote: hosted there since at least 1998 or 1999, and now I can't respond to posts on the list or even contact the moderator off-list (because her address is also on one of the servers which is blocking all messages from att.net). I You could always try creating an address at

Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 10:53 PM 1/2/2004, you wrote: I'm pretty sure I set the price of the shirt at my online store too high, so as an apology, I've decreased it from $19.99 to $16.99. Do y'all consider $3 of profit per shirt fair? http://www.cafeshops.com/Sloan3D As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin

Any PayPal users here?

2004-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn
This is almost scary - and a bit disappointing about how eBay handled this. - Gary PayPal Loophole Leaves Man Holding Empty Bag Police Threaten Charges Against eBay Seller HOPKINTON, R.I. -- A Rhode Island man claims a woman in Florida stole his money by taking advantage of a loophole in

RE: Davidbrin.com blocked by WebSense

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
place. Notice any reduction in the amount of junk in your inbox? Neither have I. In fact, if my inbox is typical, if anything, recently it's been getting worse . . . I agree completely, I have started to receive almost twice the amount of mail in the last few weeks, especially mail about an

Re: Science Fiction In Music

2004-01-03 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Science Fiction In Music Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 12:55:21 -0600 - Original Message - From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Science Fiction In Music

2004-01-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Science Fiction In Music From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion

Re: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-03 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Science Fiction In General Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 16:00:17 -0600 At 03:16 PM 1/1/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL

Re: Republicans Attempting to get Bible classified as a 'Textbook'in CA in Constitutional Amendment

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 01:35 PM 1/2/2004 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The King James version is nice English but a poor translation, at least of the Hebrew books. As literature, it's interesting; teaching it in its historical context would have some didactic use, but I'm not sure of any other point. As a Jew, I'm

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:48 PM 1/1/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Herein we see the kind of spin the Bush administration will use when the 9/11 commission finds that they were asleep at the switch. Thank you for your substantive responses and critiques of the proposals presented and your refraining from baseless

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: Almost a month after Ortiz was arrested, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said: The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind of legal status some way, but

Re: Republicans Attempting to get Bible classified as a 'Textbook' inCA in Constitutional Amendment

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:13 AM 1/2/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=36386 Group promotes constitutional amendment to make it textbook A California group has submitted to the attorney general's office a proposed ballot initiative to amend the state constitution to

Re: The New Math

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 05:43 AM 1/1/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: The Spin, 'New Jobless Claims Lowest of Bush Tenure'. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=530e=1u=/ap/20031231/a p_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy The Labor Department (news - web sites) reported Wednesday that new applications filed for unemployment

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 12:47 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: Almost a month after Ortiz was arrested, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge said: The bottom line is, as a country we have to come to grips with the presence of 8 to 12 million illegals, afford them some kind

Re: The New Math

2004-01-03 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:43 AM 1/1/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: The Spin, 'New Jobless Claims Lowest of Bush Tenure'. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=530e=1u=/ap/20031231/ a p_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy The Labor Department (news - web sites) reported

Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
NOTE PLENTY OF SPOILERS AT THIS POINT, since I think that everyone has had a chance to see the movie. SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS I haven't read the books in probably 10 years so I probably have a different perspective on this than msot.I pretty much know the story, but I'm certainly not

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn
Actually, Ridge is right.If the US were to somehow manage to enforce its immigration laws and remove 8 to 12 million workers from our economy - the effects on the US would be catastrophic. JDG Prove it. Kevin T. That depends if the US unemployed workers would be willing to jump

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: At 10:48 PM 1/1/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: Herein we see the kind of spin the Bush administration will use when the 9/11 commission finds that they were asleep at the switch. Thank you for your substantive responses and critiques of the proposals presented and your refraining

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 02:07 PM 1/3/2004 -0500 Gary Nunn wrote: That depends if the US unemployed workers would be willing to jump in and take those jobs. This may be a stereotypical comment, but I suspect that many illegal immigrant workers are doing jobs that many US workers would refuse to do - even if they are

RE: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-03 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2004 13:25:00 -0500 1) Overall, I think that The Two Towers is the best movie. Hear that?

RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 02:07 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: Actually, Ridge is right.If the US were to somehow manage to enforce its immigration laws and remove 8 to 12 million workers from our economy - the effects on the US would be catastrophic. JDG Prove it. Kevin T. That depends if the US unemployed

Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Steve wrote: And one other thing: Please don't hesitate to gripe at me if you think I'm spamming the list. :-) Looks on-topic to me... 8^) -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

wireless internet

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
Asking now so I can have a plan in March. Me and friends are going to be in a location (bar) and need access to a couple of websites while we are there. I do not think my area supports any wireless internet services yet. Even if a phone company had some services, I only need it for a few days;

Re: wireless internet

2004-01-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 04:02:42PM -0500, Kevin Tarr wrote: So any links to another way to do this, to get interent service in a location for just a few days? Modem to switched telphone network. Get the bar to let you plug into a phone line, or else you'll need a cellular modem card which will

Re: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Travis wrote: Some other series', universes though, that make my top ten are as follows: -The Vampire Chronicles/Mayfair Witches (same Universe) - Anne Rice Hmm. This is a tough one for me. I thought _Interview_ was incredibly interesting but ultimately quite flawed. I really enjoyed

indoor fun

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
So I get my indoor trainer out of the basement. This is the first time I've ridden this winter. I usually use it with my mountain bike, but put my second road bike on it this year. I like my mountain bike, but can't get a good leg extension with it. So after two minutes something feels funny. I

Re: wireless internet

2004-01-03 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 04:10:53PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: That's really the only practical way I know. I can think of only 4 ways to access the internet, satellite, cellular network, switched telephone network, or wired-data network. Most of those require a contract of some sort.

RE: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:23 PM 1/3/2004 -0330 Travis Edmunds wrote: 1) Overall, I think that The Two Towers is the best movie. Hear that? It's the sound of your whole argument going right out the window. lol Sorry I couldn't resist. On a serious note though, in an attempt to divulge my opinion on the trilogy, let

RE: indoor fun

2004-01-03 Thread Horn, John
From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So I get my indoor trainer out of the basement. This is the first time I've ridden this winter. Is this a sign? Yes! It's a sign that you have a strange idea of indoor fun! grin - jmh ___

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:48 PM 1/1/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: And thank you for substantiating your claim that the courts supported a a right to privacy that protected one's right to do whatever one wanted. Come again? My own introduction to this link was only a few sentences long, and said no such

Re: Irregulars: Help me identify a book

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
- Original Message - From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin Mailing List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:04 AM Subject: Re: Irregulars: Help me identify a book At 11:16 PM 1/2/04, Horn, John wrote: Recently, in a fantasy RPG, our GM

Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Steve wrote: As for the Irregulars question, Dr. Brin suggested that I donate part of each sale I make at my store to an appropriate charity, as a way to promote my store and do good at the same time. Which groups do good work preserving wildlife in general? Which ones are good at

RE: indoor fun

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 05:12 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: From: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] So I get my indoor trainer out of the basement. This is the first time I've ridden this winter. Is this a sign? Yes! It's a sign that you have a strange idea of indoor fun! grin - jmh Doing this might afford me

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Doug Pensinger wrote: (snip) But commission chairman, former New Jersey Gov. Thomas Kean, has yet to examine key evidence indicating that President Clinton knew Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America but failed to take appropriate action to stop him as the 9/11 operation was being

Re: NHL observation

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:53 PM 12/27/2003 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: At one point, they were my second-favorite AFC team. Now I like half the AFC East better. Julia not saying which half unless pressed hard Consider yourself pressed. :) JDG - GO BILLS AND SQUISH THE FISH!* * - no points to anyone

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 08:51 PM 12/25/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In all of the Clinton stuff us leftists on the list specifically stated that his behavior was reprehensible. I am waiting to see that from you guys. This is not ture. By no stretch of the imagination did *all* leftists on the List call

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: Come again? My own introduction to this link was only a few sentences long, and said no such thing, and I don't even recall such a thing being stated by the author of the piece I linked to.. You wrote on 25 December: I know of no instance in which Limbaugh contest the right

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:30 PM Subject: RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. At 02:07 PM 1/3/2004 -0500 Gary Nunn wrote: That depends if the

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: Almost a

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. At 12:47 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: At 05:21 PM 12/31/2003 -0600 Robert

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
John wrote: As for the rest of your links, while they are mildly interesting, they hardly are supportive of your political attack. Nevertheless, I thank you for adding these links to your very substantive responses and critiques to the proposals in the piece I linked to, and for refraining

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 12:12 PM 12/27/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point 1 _ There seems to be no debate on the fact that Halliburton overcharged. Even the incredibly pro-business Bush administration is not making your claim. Halliburton overcharged period. Not true. A NY Times invetigation of this story

Re: indoor fun

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
Kevin wrote: So I get my indoor trainer out of the basement. This is the first time I've ridden this winter. I usually use it with my mountain bike, but put my second road bike on it this year. I like my mountain bike, but can't get a good leg extension with it. So after two minutes something

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:49 PM 12/24/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rush admitted to his problem only after it became the subject of an investigation. As a Catholic, I find it completely unsuprising that a sinner would admit to wrongdoing only when caught. Such is human nature. JDG

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 11:18 PM 12/24/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct if I am wrong but wasn't it the press who uncovered Halliburton's actions? No, the press was reporting on the results of a Defense Dept. investigation. By the way doesn't your arguement imply that Clinton deserves credit for is own

Minimal Profits for Halliburton

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
Here is the NY Times Article that found that so far there have been, quote minimal profits for Haliburton. JDG December 29, 2003 Halliburton Contracts in Iraq: The Struggle to Manage Costs By JEFF GERTH and DON VAN NATTA Jr. WASHINGTON, Dec. 28 - The Qarmat Ali water treatment plant in

Re: Overpriced Shirts and Irregulars Question

2004-01-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Erik Reuter wrote: For approximately $20,000, Ashoka enabled Dr. Vera Cordeiro to develop 'Renascer', an organization providing critical outpatient follow-up care to poor children who have suffered acute illnesses. It has spread to 11 hospitals in 5 states throughout Brazil, befitting more

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:15 PM 12/24/2003 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: God, I hope so because four more years with these jokers in charge will be a disaster not only for the country, but the entire world. Speaking of disasters for the world just think that the freedom of 38 million Iraqis and the very lives of

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 07:19 PM 12/24/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: If it were a doctor being investigated then I could see the constitutional protection. But can you show some reference that would support your claim that a patient has a constitutional protection in a case where the patient is being investigated

Re: Return of the King Review Re: my mini review

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
JDG wrote: 1) Overall, I think that The Two Towers is the best movie. Travis replied: Hear that? It's the sound of your whole argument going right out the window. lol Sorry I couldn't resist. On a serious note though, in an attempt to divulge my opinion on the trilogy, let me say that IMO The

Re: Rush Limbaugh is a hypocrite

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 10:37 PM 12/24/2003 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So John: Is Rush a hypocrite? yes or no. No. Should the person who leaked Valerie Ps name be prosecuted? If a crime was committed yes. Valerie Plame, however, was the wife of an ambassador - so I still question just exactly how

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Gary Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:07 PM Subject: RE: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. Actually, Ridge is right.If the US were to somehow manage to

Re: The New Math

2004-01-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:14 PM Subject: Re: The New Math From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 05:43 AM 1/1/2004 -0600 The Fool wrote: The Spin, 'New Jobless Claims

Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton

2004-01-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Minimal Profits for Halliburton Here is the NY Times Article that found that so far there have been, quote minimal profits for Haliburton. JDG Any

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. Just from anecdotal knowledge from around the Kansas City area,

Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton

2004-01-03 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 07:46 PM 1/3/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:31 PM Subject: Minimal Profits for Halliburton Here is the NY Times Article that found that so far there have been, quote minimal

RE: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-03 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
Ronn! wrote: I wish Gerrold would work on a completed series . . . *lol* Tell me about it. I started reading this series in 1990, around the time that _A Season For Slaughter_ came out. 13 years later, and Gerrold is still alive from all accounts. I think he wrote the three Dingiliad books to

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: Just from anecdotal knowledge from around the Kansas City area, pay and to access to bathroom facilities are better in the construction industry, but it's still seasonal and weather-dependent work with long hours of back-breaking labor with little to no benefits and a paycheck

Re: The New Math

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 6:43 PM Subject: Re: The New Math Out of curiosity, why do you think you are in a position to mock techniques that are fairly standard in science as

RE: Science Fiction In General

2004-01-03 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:19 PM 1/3/04, Lalith Vipulananthan wrote: Ronn! wrote: I wish Gerrold would work on a completed series . . . *lol* Tell me about it. I started reading this series in 1990, around the time that _A Season For Slaughter_ came out. 13 years later, and Gerrold is still alive from all

Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S.

2004-01-03 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Mexican Diplomat Charged With Helping Smuggle Arabs Into U.S. I wrote: Just from anecdotal knowledge from around the Kansas

The perfect gift!

2004-01-03 Thread Gary Nunn
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Re: The New Math

2004-01-03 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 7:37 PM Subject: Re: The New Math - Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Minimal Profits for Halliburton

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 06:46 PM 1/3/2004 -0600 Dan Minette wrote: Any corporation worth its salt can have small or zero profits from certain international operations. So, so you are saying that you disagree with the conclusions of the NY Times' investigation? If so, on what grounds? If not, then what *are* you

Spirit has landed!

2004-01-03 Thread Amanda Marlowe
It's even talking! http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/03/mars.rovers/index.html and http://www.marsdaily.com for latest news. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 04:02 PM 1/3/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: John wrote: As for the rest of your links, while they are mildly interesting, they hardly are supportive of your political attack. Nevertheless, I thank you for adding these links to your very substantive responses and critiques to the

Re: The US Has Insane Privacy Protections

2004-01-03 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 03:20 PM 1/3/2004 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: John wrote: Come again? My own introduction to this link was only a few sentences long, and said no such thing, and I don't even recall such a thing being stated by the author of the piece I linked to.. You wrote on 25 December: I