Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread The Fool
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] JDG brings out his inner Bigot: 1) I believe that human sexuality is non-linear. While there are certainly a great many people who are very firmly homosexual or heterosexual, there just as surely exists some subset of people who exist on the

Re: Politics and Motivations

2004-02-17 Thread The Fool
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 02:17:39PM -0800, Gautam Mukunda wrote: Ashcroft has done any significant abrogation of the basic rights of citizens, and he has _never_ claimed that everyone who disagrees with him is un-american. Gautam, they called their

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 19:31:41 + I don't think the Federation is that much democratic. It seems that Earth has a kind of

RE: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: This Is Spinal Ta-, er, Metallica Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 12:21:41 -0500 (EST) Travis Edmunds wrote: Ever hear any Niccolo Paganini? Heard of, yes. Heard, I don't think so,

RE: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 14:07:24 -0500 There's some quote I hear on TV cop shows, but can't remember exactly now. Something like three

Re: Star Trek Politics

2004-02-17 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Star Trek Politics Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:08:11 -0500 (EST) What political/economic model do you feel most closely resembles the UFP? Jim Ah...a monarchy? -Travis did I

Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I must be doing something _really_ stupid, but why I can't draw even a simple tetrahedron with OpenGL? One of the faces does not show :-/ Is there any magic word that I must utter before it works? Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Harney
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] JDG brings out his inner Bigot: 1) I believe that human sexuality is non-linear. While there are certainly a great many people who are very firmly homosexual or heterosexual, there just as surely

Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Sloan II
Alberto Monteiro wrote: I must be doing something _really_ stupid, but why I can't draw even a simple tetrahedron with OpenGL? One of the faces does not show :-/ Is there any magic word that I must utter before it works? I have two guesses: 1) Could OpenGL be culling the back-facing polygons?

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread aclipscomb
Jeffrey Miller asked: Are we as a population representative in terms of sexuality distribution? Does Brin-L have any openly GLBT members (excepting myself, of course)? *raises hand way back in the corner* Right here. Bi. Adam C. Lipscomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread The Fool
From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] JDG brings out his inner Bigot: 1) I believe that human sexuality is non-linear. While there are certainly a great many people who are very firmly

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Damon Agretto
There is a place for all things. This wasn't the place. Mr. JDG's comment is offensive, and outrageous. Every person As if you've never said anything offensive... Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment I know gay people, and bi-sexual people, and I can't imagine that Mr. JDG's extremist views should

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Harney
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] sarcasmGee Fool, do you think you could be any more subtle?/sarcasm There is a place for all things. This wasn't the place. Mr. JDG's comment is offensive, and outrageous. Every person who fights for

RE: Julius Schwartz, 1915-2004

2004-02-17 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Harney
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1) I believe that human sexuality is non-linear. While there are certainly a great many people who are very firmly homosexual or heterosexual, there just as surely exists some subset of people who

Re: Thoughts on gay marriage?

2004-02-17 Thread Jim Sharkey
Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Jim Sharkey wrote: There are a number of laws and concepts that I don't heartily agree with that I also do not oppose, since I realize any difficulties with it are my problem. A*** comes immediately to mind. It's not something I think everyone ought to be doing in

Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Steve Sloan II [I knew you would be the fist to jump :-)] wrote: I must be doing something _really_ stupid, but why I can't draw even a simple tetrahedron with OpenGL? One of the faces does not show :-/ Is there any magic word that I must utter before it works? I have two guesses: 1)

Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Harney
From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] The program is as simple as possible, and all but the first triangle appear correctly. The first triangle, however, is invisible. Essentially, this is the OpenGL part of the program: glLoadIdentity(); glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,-15.0f);

RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:35 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment) Jeffrey Miller asked:

RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Harney Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:33 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment) From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL

Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Trent Shipley
On Tuesday 2004-02-17 06:57, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I must be doing something _really_ stupid, but why I can't draw even a simple tetrahedron with OpenGL? One of the faces does not show :-/ Is there any magic word that I must utter before it works? Alberto Monteiro

Democrats secular?

2004-02-17 Thread Dan Minette
More important than any of those is secularism, in my opinion. The Democratic Party has a remarkable ability to have leaders who are fairly secular (Mondale, Dukakis) or actively disdain religion (Dean, if he wins the nomination). Americans are, on the whole, quite religious. Lower middle class

RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
Top-post -- Of **course** we're not average! We're clearly all _above average_! ;D Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really AM curious about people's arrangments.. I don't talk much about my life, but many people seem to be (happily) married with kids (but then, I tend to think

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:23 PM Subject: RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment) Hetero here, (if you want me to put myself on a chart,

Re: Federal Marraige Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Robert Seeberger wrote: Are we going to recognise marriages made in (FREX) France if France legalises Gay Marriage? The courts will not allow discrimination in that regard and France WILL retaliate. How about shipboard weddings? Are those legally recognised? (Law Of The Sea?) I really don't see

Re: Democrats secular?

2004-02-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way for Democrats to win in the South is to win a good portion of these folks over. This can be done by emphasizing the economic issues and I basically agree with everything you wrote (I think - I read it fairly quickly). I think it's more

RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hetero here, (if you want me to put myself on a chart, I'll guess ~ 95%, since I'm allowing that if I'd grown up in a radically different society I might not be 100%), single yet looking, 2 children-in-fur, 3 surrogate children-on-the-hoof...

Re: Irregulars Question: OpenGL

2004-02-17 Thread Steve Sloan II
Alberto Monteiro wrote: The program is as simple as possible, and all but the first triangle appear correctly. The first triangle, however, is invisible. Essentially, this is the OpenGL part of the program: glLoadIdentity(); glTranslatef(0.0f,0.0f,-15.0f); glRotated(m_angulo,

Re: education bias

2004-02-17 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Kevin Tarr wrote: snipped some First questions: can a school make a kid smart? I think if she's a good enough parent the school shouldn't matter. I'm sure we could come up with a 3 x 3 truth table with good/medium/bad parents vs good/medium/bad schools and have percentages to see what

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Deborah Harrell
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hetero here, (if you want me to put myself on a chart, I'll guess ~ 95%, since I'm allowing that if I'd grown up in a radically different society I might not be 100%), single yet looking, 2 children-in-fur,

Re: Democrats secular?

2004-02-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 04:27 PM 2/17/2004, you wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way for Democrats to win in the South is to win a good portion of these folks over. This can be done by emphasizing the economic issues and I basically agree with everything you wrote (I think - I read it

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige[sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: I really AM curious about people's arrangments.. I don't talk much about my life, but many people seem to be (happily) married with kids (but then, I tend to think the whole world is like that ^_^) Monogamous, hetero, married, kids. Insane. (I'm told it gets easier

Re: Democrats secular?

2004-02-17 Thread Julia Thompson
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 04:27 PM 2/17/2004, you wrote: --- Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way for Democrats to win in the South is to win a good portion of these folks over. This can be done by emphasizing the economic issues and I basically agree with everything

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige[sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Damon Agretto
Monogamous, hetero, married, kids. Me too! Except changed married to engaged, and kids to none... Insane. That too (but in a different way...bwahahahaha!) Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem,

Darwin's Children

2004-02-17 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
Just got my copy in the mail today. Anyone already been through it? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/12/2004 6:18:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then there is the question of what it means to be anti-semetic. There is a teacher here localy who stated: And what are they doing with the

RE: Introducing Fenris

2004-02-17 Thread ChadCooper
You could make a shorter catagory that includes both religion and politics called Evil:. I like Totally Gay: myself It makes me giggle! I think we can work on entitling the title of our email messages with a meaningful pre-title... But to get the group to standardize Never! It took

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You assume that Millions of average people had a blind hatred, and had found justification any way they could, simply to persecute a group they had blind hatred for. In fact millions of people did hate the jews. It was the official

Re: Federal Marraige Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Federal Marraige Amendment Robert Seeberger wrote: Are we going to recognise marriages made in (FREX) France if

Re: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige[sic]Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/17/2004 6:21:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Monogamous, hetero, married, kids. monogamous hetero married kids (I have kids my kids aren't married at least not the last time I looked) ___

Totally Gay: RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marrai ge [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread ChadCooper
Are we as a population representative in terms of sexuality distribution? Does Brin-L have any openly GLBT members (excepting myself, of course)? Na... I expect we are less representative that the general populace. Frankly, Sci-fi is a bit too Gay, so to speak, for the cool hipster

Re: Totally Gay: RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marrai ge [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:04 PM 2/17/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are we as a population representative in terms of sexuality distribution? Does Brin-L have any openly GLBT members (excepting myself, of course)? Na... I expect we are less representative that the general populace. Frankly, Sci-fi is a bit too

Re: Is my father-in-law Jewish?

2004-02-17 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan wrote: You assume that Millions of average people had a blind hatred, and had found justification any way they could, simply to persecute a group they had blind hatred for. That sounds a bit like raceism to me. Have

Re: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Michael Harney
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/17/2004 11:03:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe that human sexuality is non-linear. While there are certainly a great many people who are very firmly homosexual or heterosexual, there just as surely exists

Re: Politics and Motivations

2004-02-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 6:34 PM Subject: Re: Politics and Motivations On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:15:39PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Who

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:38 PM 2/17/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:33:54PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 06:24 PM 2/17/04, Chad Cooper wrote: When I replace Gay and Homosexual with Interracial, replace sex with race, and heterosexual as same-race.. Chad's Modified text example

Latest Mars pic

2004-02-17 Thread Robert Seeberger
thought you'd get a chuckle out of this from the sci.space.* newsgroups: http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~motl/mars_spiritcolor.jpg xponent Colonials Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Totally Gay: RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marriage [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:04 PM 2/17/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now if I ask what GLBT stands for, Garlic, lettuce, bacon, and tomato. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Totally Gay: RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marrai ge [sic...

2004-02-17 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 2/17/2004 5:06:19 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now if I ask what GLBT stands for, does that make me curious bi? Gimli - Legolas Buddies in Tolkein? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Democrats secular?

2004-02-17 Thread Kevin Tarr
Do you vote in primaries? (I vote in Republican primaries because whatever district I'm in tends to be a lock for the Republicans and I want to have some say in who represents me.) Julia Eight of ten times I vote in the primary. I was going to switch parties, just to vote for Dennis K.

Re: Politics and Motivations

2004-02-17 Thread Bemmzim
In a message dated 2/17/2004 7:36:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob Z. is one of the most careless people about emails that I have ever seen. He constantly gets attributions wrong, messes up formatting and quoting so badly that you have to wonder if it was

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:49:47PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Has anybody here said that, other than you just now? ... Not unlike saying that artificial insemination does not count for lesbian couples. Did anyone say that it does not count? John said that he does not believe in it,

Re: Politics and Motivations

2004-02-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:57:58PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do not confuse incompetence with carelessness I haven't. You've been told about it numerous times by a number of people. A careful person with your intelligence would have spent some time experimenting off-list to figure out how

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:02 PM 2/17/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 06:49:47PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Has anybody here said that, other than you just now? ... Not unlike saying that artificial insemination does not count for lesbian couples. Did anyone say that it does not count? John

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:13:12PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: As, apparently, did you . . . What ever happened to your God-given predictions? -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Bryon Daly
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not unlike saying that artificial insemination does not count for lesbian couples. Did anyone say that it does not count? John said that he does not believe in it, which I presume is because the Catholic church discourages it. AFAIK, the Catholic church

RE: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment)

2004-02-17 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BRin-L - are we average? (was RE: Federal Marraige [sic] Amendment) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:25:23 -0800 From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1)

Re: Latest Mars pic

2004-02-17 Thread Amanda Marlowe
thought you'd get a chuckle out of this from the sci.space.* newsgroups: http://schwinger.harvard.edu/~motl/mars_spiritcolor.jpg They look too large to be the same species that left the skull over by Spirit in the older NASA press release pic. The head shape is about right, though. You can

Greenspan: Cut Social Security to keep tax cuts for millionares

2004-02-17 Thread The Fool
Greenspan says Congress should cut Social Security to keep tax cuts http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20040213/1031952.asp By MARTIN CRUTSINGER Associated Press 2/13/2004 WASHINGTON - Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Thursday that Congress should make President Bush's tax

Re: Federal Marriage Amendment

2004-02-17 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 08:17 PM 2/17/04, Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 08:13:12PM -0600, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: As, apparently, did you . . . What ever happened to your God-given predictions? Nothing happened to them. I'm not sure what that has to do with the current discussion, though. -- Ronn!