RE: Winning the War on Terror

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Dan Minette wrote: > > > Are you suggesting that the people of Iraq were better off > before the > > invasion. What measure would you give of that? > > I don't know if Andrew was suggesting that but that argument > *can* be made: >

RE: Welcome to life in George W. Bush's America

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip > > >There's nothing I can add that won't go over the head of anyone who > > >needs me to add something. > > > > Aww, go on humour us poor idiots, enlighten us with your > > wisdom Mike. I clearly need a lot more lessons from our wise > > Islamic Moderate cos I

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Russell Chapman wrote: > Oh, absolutely, the .22 would come out of the rubble and I would take my > nationalistic fervour to the invaders. But I wouldn't wave pictures of > the PM, or of the archbishop, or anything other than the Australian flag > or the Southern Cross. But most assuredly, I w

RE: Winning the War on Terror

> From: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Andrew Paul wrote: > > It was a little confronting, I agree, but please, take a few steps > > back from that big red button. > > Done - big red button = bad. No question. > Thankfully our red button leads to a damp squib that goes whizz i

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Dan Minette wrote: > Are you suggesting that the people of Iraq were better off before the > invasion. What measure would you give of that? I don't know if Andrew was suggesting that but that argument *can* be made: Law and order - They lived under a repressive state but they were used to that

Re: Square Wheels

"Ronn!Blankenship" wrote: > > At 12:02 AM 4/6/04, The Fool wrote: > ><> > > > >Riding on Square Wheels > >Ivars Peterson > > > >A square wheel may be the ultimate flat tire. There's no way it can roll > >over a flat, smooth road without a

Re: Square Wheels

At 12:02 AM 4/6/04, The Fool wrote: <> Riding on Square Wheels Ivars Peterson A square wheel may be the ultimate flat tire. There's no way it can roll over a flat, smooth road without a sequence of jarring bumps. Stan Wagon, a mathematicia

Re: The Politics of September 10th

At 11:27 PM 4/5/04, Tom Beck wrote: What's most interesting about Biden's September 10 talk is that he mentioned terrorism but made no mention of "al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or Islamic extremist groups" - just like Rice. Except (and I shouldn't even have to point this out, except to desperate Bush

Square Wheels

<> Riding on Square Wheels Ivars Peterson A square wheel may be the ultimate flat tire. There's no way it can roll over a flat, smooth road without a sequence of jarring bumps. Stan Wagon, a mathematician at Macalester College in St. P

Re: The Politics of September 10th

What's most interesting about Biden's September 10 talk is that he mentioned terrorism but made no mention of "al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden or Islamic extremist groups" - just like Rice. Except (and I shouldn't even have to point this out, except to desperate Bush apologists) he's a US Senator f

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

> From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > And interest rate and inflation risk should be taken into account in > this situation, which is why I mentioned it. The SS trust fund will go > negative in not too many years. If you c

Re: Symphony (was: Virus infection alert !)

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: > At 04:15 PM 4/4/04, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > > > > >To Our Resident Puck > > > > Them sounds like fightin' words, ma'am . . . Stick with me and I'll show you some more. :) Julia ___ http://

Re: Birding In NM (was: Virus infection alert !)

At 11:48 AM 4/5/2004 -0230 Travis Edmunds wrote: >You want birds? Then come to my island. What island is that? JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

The Politics of September 10th

An article exposes the very sad state of Democratic politicking over September 10th.. http://www.techcentralstation.com/040204C.html The day before Rice was to give her speech, Sen. Joe Biden, one of the Democratic Party's leading lights on foreign policy issues, gave a major address critica

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Andrew Paul wrote: It was a little confronting, I agree, but please, take a few steps back from that big red button. Done - big red button = bad. No question. If, lets say, we were invaded by the newly elected Indonesian Islamic Government, on the basis that we were supporting terrorism in the for

This time I won't blame Bush

The New York Times deservedly won the Pulitzer Prize for public service journalism for its series "Dangerous Business" about companies deliberately endangering workers' lives. http://www.nytimes.com/ref/national/WORK_INDEX.html -

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:37 PM Subject: Re: Dan says SS = SSA > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > > > Different types of risk, sorry. I'm sl

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > Different types of risk, sorry. I'm slipping into financial sector > jargon. US Government Securities (and all of the ones you are talking > about are US Government securities) are all riskless assets. The risk > referred to is t

RE: Welcome to life in George W. Bush's America

> -Original Message- > From: Andrew Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 8:44 AM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: RE: Welcome to life in George W. Bush's America > > > From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Tom Beck, after sticking his foot in his mo

Re: Winning the War on Terror

> When you invade peoples countries, they tend to get angry. We would get just as angry. But somehow its >not OK for them to do that? So when your children are killed by a misplaced US bomb, you are just >supposed to like it? Or perhaps in you grief and horror, you might fall back on the only soc

RE: Winning the War on Terror

> Changed my whole political views on the middle east in 2 minutes. > > Russell C. This may provide even more food for thought: http://victorhanson.com/Articles/Private%20Papers/Mirror_of_Fallujah.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/bri

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:32:48AM -0700, Gautam > Mukunda wrote: > > > US Government Bonds are considered the only > "riskless assets" in the > > financial world - > > Actually, T-bills would be lower risk. Because > unless you are talking > about TIP

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:32:48AM -0700, Gautam Mukunda wrote: > US Government Bonds are considered the only "riskless assets" in the > financial world - Actually, T-bills would be lower risk. Because unless you are talking about TIPS, bonds can lose a significant amount of capital during inflat

RE: Winning the War on Terror

-Original Message- From: Russell Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Trent Shipley wrote: >> Whether the participants, as a population, are irrelligious or very religious >> cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing the >> question an "either irreligious or ver

RE: Welcome to life in George W. Bush's America

From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tom Beck, after sticking his foot in his mouth, sucks hard trying to get his >leg in at least up to the shin: >> Incidentally, by slugging my original post, "Welcome to life >> in George W. Bush's America", I did not mean to imply that >> Bush himself bea

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:14:37AM -0500, Dan > Minette wrote: > > > Actually, its government bonds right now. On > paper, the SS trust fund > > includes the money it makes from the interest > accumulated from the > > government bonds it has invested i

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

Dan says that WWII Nazi stormtroopers are gay? The Mapping From Abbreviations To Their Meanings Is Not A Function Maru -- Ronn! :) Professional Smart-Aleck. Do Not Attempt. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: Re: Dan says SS = SSA > On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:14:37AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > > > Actually, its government bonds right now.

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:14:37AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Actually, its government bonds right now. On paper, the SS trust fund > includes the money it makes from the interest accumulated from the > government bonds it has invested in. By the way, I'd previously assumed it was accounted for

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 08:14:37AM -0500, Dan Minette wrote: > Actually, its government bonds right now. On paper, the SS trust fund > includes the money it makes from the interest accumulated from the > government bonds it has invested in. All of it? I've never seen a clear explanation for how

Re: Birding In NM (was: Virus infection alert !)

From: JDG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Killer Bs Discussion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Birding In NM (was: Virus infection alert !) Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:19:45 -0400 Bosque de Apache National Wildlife Refuge. A primary winter home for the na

Re: Winning the War on Terror

Trent Shipley wrote: Whether the participants, as a population, are irrelligious or very religious cannot be answered without more detailed information. Also, framing the question an "either irreligious or very religious" is to put forth a false dichotomy. Nevertheless, the participanting popu

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

- Original Message - From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 5:52 AM Subject: Re: Dan says SS = SSA > But we don't need to lower interest rates further and encourage > corporate balance sheets to become even mo

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 06:08:50AM -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: > But future retirees will not have that benefit, and the money going in > now, or at least since the seventies, should be invested. It is already invested. The government borrows from those accounts and uses the money, for example, to f

Re: Gibson's 'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs

At 04:09 AM 4/5/2004, you wrote: http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/sns-ap-arabs-and-passion,0,6296551,print.story?coll=mmx-celebrity_heds http://tinyurl.com/22h3p rob No mention that Israel has so far banned showing the movie. They said it wasn't the right time. Kevin T.

Re: Dan says SS = SSA

I explictly stated that. " (This calculation, BTW, includes both the company and the individual contributions)" So, the answer is yes. >Second, and this > helps his argument, what are the historical 30 year returns since 1935? I > was to a retirement seminar last week and the speaker was using 1

Gibson's 'The Passion' a Hit Among Arabs

http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/news/celebrity/sns-ap-arabs-and-passion,0,6296551,print.story?coll=mmx-celebrity_heds http://tinyurl.com/22h3p Hanan Nsour, a veiled, 21-year-old Muslim in Jordan, came out of "The Passion of the Christ" in tears and pronounced her verdict: Mel Gibson's cru