iaamoac wrote:
The government then adopted its current poppy eradication strategy,
destroying poppy fields, but the struggle would be a long one, Karzai
warned. Now we know: it will take a number of years with the
continued help of the international community (Traci Hukill, U.N.
Wire, June
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:49:19AM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
Firstly you are suggesting that logical thought applies in these
situations.
That is because logical thought applies to reality. I'm not suggesting
it applies to all Iranians, obviously, or to you, equally obviously.
But regardless
William T Goodall wrote:
As Calum Chace, a partner at KPMG who specialises in the media
business, remarks: It's never particularly wise to bet against
Microsoft. Open systems do tend to win, eventually.
This would be really funny if it wasn't for the specialises in the
media business bit -
Couldn't sleep and this part of the thread drew me back.
Let me correct some facts.
Here are the correct totals from the CCIS2002Middleeast.pdf I happen
to have. Getting current year or last year estimates is too expensive
and not really needed. Armies normally change little in 2-3 years. In
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 18:27:42 -0400, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:55:21PM -0500, Gary Denton wrote:
6. A strong case could be made for another country.
Bullshit. As bad as Bush and Co. are, I'd take them over Iran's leaders
any day. It's not even close.
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 06:21:34AM -0500, Gary Denton wrote:
My, strong language and illogic - this was not an either/or choice of
Bush/Cheney and Iranian leaders.
My, lies and sophistry. Yes it was, and you know it.
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From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:49:19AM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
Firstly you are suggesting that logical thought applies in these
situations.
That is because logical thought applies to reality. I'm not suggesting
it applies to all Iranians, obviously,
From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Andrew Paul wrote:
According to our morning news, the 9/11 commission has
conclusively established that there was no link between
Saddam and Al Qaeda. Is this what you read from it, or is
that a misquote?
What I heard regarding it was that
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:07:44PM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
No, logic is totally and completely divorced from reality, thats my
Of course it is not. People may not behave logically (consistently,
predictably, etc.), but the universe does. Actions have consequences,
and no matter how much you
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From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 12:32 AM
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mig 29 34
Moderately potent and modern aircraft. But only 34...
su 2486
Ground attack.
f-14
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Nick Lidster wrote:
Irans standing power is 912,569 (2004 est.) mixture of all branches,
including law
From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, Jun 15, 2004 at 10:50:50PM -0400, Gary Nunn wrote:
Would I pay all the money in a bank to ransom my children
or sacrifice
someone else to save my children from imminent death? Yes I
would.
No you would not. IT IS NOT YOUR MONEY TO
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:51:18AM -0500, Horn, John wrote:
He didn't say that he COULD. Only that he would.
As would I.
I don't give a fuck what mental masturbation you want to engage in. Keep
it to yourself.
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From: Erik Reuter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:07:44PM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
No, logic is totally and completely divorced from reality, thats my
Of course it is not. People may not behave logically (consistently,
predictably, etc.), but the universe does.
Have you
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Terrorism too close to home...
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:56:14 -0400
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 11:51:18AM -0500, Horn, John wrote:
He didn't say that he
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 15:44:40 -0700 (PDT)
-Travis being hypocritical on the outside to make a
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I would very much appreciate help in understanding how the
US set up the Bathe party...or how we ensured
Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debbi
who BTW waves and grins at Dan ;)
smiling and waving back
Are you just being sociable Debbi, which is awfully
nice of you, or did you
actually hear me muttering great reasoning Debbi,
now apply it to
Travis Edmunds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Travis being hypocritical on the outside to
make a point Edmunds
Debbi
Using Mr. Pointy As Justification? Maru;)
I hope you're talking about my index finger!
-Travis Mr. Pointy Edmunds
Nooo, there
From: Nick Lidster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
much snippage
Ill give you that, as long as you can concede that there would be
significant US casualties.
Sounds a lot like what a lot of people said before the first Gulf
War (including myself, I'll admit). But in an open battle, our
technology
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From: Nick Lidster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
much snippage
Ill give you that, as long as you can concede that
Sounds a lot like what a lot of people said before
the first Gulf
War (including myself, I'll admit). But in an open
battle, our
technology and training was greater than the
overwhelming numbers of
tanks, infantry, aircraft, etc.
Heck, folks were saying the same before the GW2!
Largely
On Fri, Jun 18, 2004 at 03:00:56AM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
Have you been keeping up with your science lately? Heard of this
thing called quantum mechanics? Read up on it, you will find it
fascinating. And also people dont play any part in your world then. If
You obviously don't understand
Erik said:
You obviously don't understand quantum mechanics.
Well, I understand quantum mechanics and if predictable is a necessary
condition for something to be considered logical then the universe
isn't logical. (I am well aware that the probabilities themselves are
predictable in principle,
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Erik said:
You obviously don't understand quantum mechanics.
Well, I understand quantum mechanics and if
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:20:46 -0230, Nick Lidster
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Nick Lidster wrote:
Irans standing power is 912,569 (2004 est.) mixture of all branches,
including law enforcement. 3000 troops sure isn't a
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 09:45:17PM +0100, Richard Baker wrote:
isn't logical. (I am well aware that the probabilities themselves are
predictable in principle, but unless you subscribe to a global hidden
Which is of course what is relevant, and what I was referring to.
--
Erik Reuter
In a quasi-recent post, I'd quoted ~41 million as the
number of uninsured; that has risen to 44 million
(below the age of 65) uncovered for the entire year of
2003. If the restrictions are changed to 'without
coverage for at least one month in 2002 or 2003,' the
number nearly doubles to 82
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 04:39:12PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
I agree with that if-then statement, but I'm guessing logical means
able to be modeled in some form of logic calculus (paraphrasing
Weinburgs regrets about ethics not being reducible to this.) For the
most part, we've done a very
Gene Therapy Turns Elk-voles Into Stork-voles!!!
(If we at Brin-L made headers like The National
Enquirer... :D )
But this is quite fascinating (and maybe a little bit
disturbing):
http://my.webmd.com/content/Article/89/100115.htm?printing=true
...researchers say they've found a gene that
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5170228/
...After age 40, they found, about 400 genes showed
significant changes in how hard they had been working
while the person was alive to instruct cells to make
certain proteins. Many of those genes were damaged and
could not function properly. This gives us a
Scientists zap atom across room
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/sci_tech/newsid_3816000/3816551.stm
Scientists say that they have teleported an atom across a room for the
first time.
Teleporting is when something is taken apart and sent to another place
without any physical contact.
In the
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: Speaking of Quantum.
Scientists zap atom across room
That story is wrong. They zapped atomic properties across the room from
one entangled atom
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Subject: Re: Speaking of Quantum.
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Sent:
I've done some more reading on this issue, and appears that the VFW is 60+
years old, which is interesting since Mojave National Preserve only dates
back until the early 1990's. This means that the Memorial predates the
National Park designation - although it may not predate federal ownership.
A pretty selective sampling there, Doug.
It also neglects the fact, that your reading of the Constitution would make
the Declaration of Independence Unconstitutional.
It also neglects the fact that the Founders who participated in the very
first Congress chose as their first discretionary act
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On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:07:44PM +1000, Andrew Paul wrote:
No, logic is totally and completely divorced from reality, thats my
Of course it is not. People may not behave logically (consistently,
predictably, etc.), but the universe does. Actions
At 07:13 PM 6/17/04, Robert Seeberger wrote:
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Scientists zap atom across room
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/sci_tech/newsid_3816000/3816551.stm
Scientists say that they have teleported an atom across a room for the
first time.
Teleporting is when something is taken
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: The Founders on Separation of Church and State: Washington,
Adams,Franklin
A pretty selective sampling there, Doug.
It also neglects the
Ronn! wrote:
What is really bad is that _Star Trek_ is considered an *old* television
show . . .
So What Does That Make Its Viewers? Maru
Turning fifty in about 32 days?
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Doug
The Final Frontier Maru
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:46:05 -0400, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A pretty selective sampling there, Doug.
It's enough to show that the constitution provided a wall of separation
in the minds at least some of the more prominent founders.
It also neglects the fact, that your reading of the
JDG wrote:
Thus, this Court ruling would appear to jeopardize NPS preservation of
religious cultural resources in a number of Parks, included preserved
churches in Great Smoky Mountains National Park and Cape Lookout National
Seashore, as well as Native American ceremonial kivas at numerous Parks
At 11:23 PM 6/17/2004 -0500 Dan Minette wrote:
Yea, and you think that they'd pass some horribly unconstitutional law,
like the Alien and Sedition Act.
Which doesn't have nearly the significance of being the very FIRST act of
Congress.
JDG
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Adams, Franklin
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:46:05 -0400, JDG [EMAIL
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Doug Wrote:
Turning fifty in about 32 days?
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Ah, you're still a puppy :-)
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 14:08:29 +0900, G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doug Wrote:
Turning fifty in about 32 days?
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Ah, you're still a puppy :-)
George A
Woof (cough) woof.
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Dan wrote:
I'm sure that one can deconstruct it to mean anything, but the word
creator meant at the time being who created. I'm not really an
origional intent guy, but I think using the same mapping of combination
of letters onto ideas as they used at that time is really a good idea.
In
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