Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:21 PM, Maru Dubshinki wrote: Well, I've never been blessed by the Beeb's TV production. Was it any good (since it sounds like you've seen it.)? It was OK. Not great; not on par with the radio or books, but not terrible either. The feel of it was a bit like the humor and

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 02:16 AM Saturday 4/30/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: I've got some ideas but you'd probably resent them.(Hint: Think colorectal polectomy.) I don't need to think about it. I watched last night's episode of Law Order: Trial By Jury. Ouch Maru -- Ronn! :)

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 29, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Max Battcher wrote: I, myself, thoroughly enjoyed it. Its not the books or the radio plays, but it works. Whine all you want about your favorite bits that got left out or cut down (and I do have a few of my own: for instance, the amazingly amazing line of Zaphod's

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Robert Seeberger
Warren Ockrassa wrote: They couldn't show everything partly because they added crap that did not need to be there. From Wkipedia: The script we shot was very much based on the last draft that Douglas wroteAll the substantive new ideas in the movie...are brand new Douglas ideas written

First photo planet outside Solar System

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
http://www.zeenews.com/links/articles.asp?ssid=27aid=214644newsid=ENV -- Gary Denton Easter Lemming Blogs http://elemming.blogspot.com http://elemming2.blogspot.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread William T Goodall
On 30 Apr 2005, at 2:21 pm, Robert Seeberger wrote: Most of the gnashing of teeth over the movie has little or no substance. Douglas was involved in the film up to the time of his death and the resulting film *is* based on his last draft. But writers don't have a great influence on how films turn

Metaphors we live by (was permission slips)

2005-04-30 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:31:46 -0400, JDG wrote ... A much more logical explanation is that the child/permission slip is a metaphor for insisting upon UN Security Council approval of US actions. At the risk of boring everyone to the state of consciousness of a turnip... the argument that they

Re: Metaphors we live by (was permission slips)

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 07:06 AM 4/30/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: Permission slip, has meaning that is independent of the sentence in which it was used. Call me crazy here, but isn't that independent meaning one of, oh I don't know, getting permission? JDG - Serious Consultation Getting Permission, Maru.

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Keith Henson
At 07:22 PM 29/04/05 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote: ...Douglas Adams spinning in his grave. HHGttG was everything its detractors have suggested, unfortunately. Entirely meaningless digressions, all the genuinely funny situations replaced by watered-down simpering, and a story that was

Defrocked Methodist minister reinstated

2005-04-30 Thread Julia Thompson
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/ap/20050430/ap_on_re_us/methodist_gays_6 Irene Elizabeth Stroud, who was defrocked for coming out as a lesbian in a committed relationship, was reinstated earlier this week. She is choosing not to administer sacrements until the entire appeals process

The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explains why God is a delusion, religion is a virus, and America has slipped back into the Dark Ages. ... Currently, Dawkins is the Charles Simonyi Professor of the Public Understanding of Science

RE: Br!n: Through the Looking Glass

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 01:52 PM 4/28/2005 -0500, John Horn wrote: In recent weeks it has become clear that President Bush has floated a trial baloon regarding lifting the current cap on income subject to Social Security tax. Right now, income over $100,000 is exempt from the 12.5% Social Security tax. I

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 10:32 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: The same majority party that has been cutting the funding of programs that preserve the lives of children is also anti-abortion. Which programs are those? I'm sure that you must have a specific allegation here, right? It should be against the

Re: North Korea's Nuclear Diplomacy Gets Hotter

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 09:06 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: Pyongyang says its pursuit of nuclear weapons is defensive to cope with U.S. reckless moves for military aggression, but analysts dismiss the claim because if North Korea had no weapons, the United States would have no reason to attack it.

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/30/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins explains why God is a delusion, religion is a virus, and America has slipped back into the Dark Ages. ... Currently, Dawkins is the

Re: Threats to the US Re: Permission Slips Re: Rhetorical QuestionsRE: RemovingDictatorsRe: PeacefulchangeL3

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 10:07 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote: But Dave, finish connecting the dots! ... same old song and dance I didn't come up with the permission slip metaphor, but hear this: I. Understand. The. Difference. Great!Perhaps you could help me explain it to Nick, then? Do you believe

Re: Threats to the US

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 10:27 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Doug wrote: 1) -the potential of Saddam Hussein attacking Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States constituted a threat to the security of the United States? After the first Gulf war there was no threat to Saudi Arabia or anyone else for that matter So, do you believe

Re: Earth has developed a slight eccentricity in its orbit...

2005-04-30 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 30, 2005, at 6:21 AM, Robert Seeberger wrote: Warren Ockrassa wrote: They couldn't show everything partly because they added crap that did not need to be there. From Wkipedia: The script we shot was very much based on the last draft that Douglas wroteAll the substantive new ideas in

Re: Permission Slips Re:RhetoricalQuestionsRE:RemovingDictatorsRe:PeacefulchangeL3

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
On 4/29/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 09:11 AM 4/29/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 18:51:38 -0400, JDG wrote On the other hand, seriously considering the opinion of another is typically an adult-to-adult relationship. It would be rather nonsensical to use a

Re: Threats to the US Re: Permission Slips Re: Rhetorical Questions RE: RemovingDictatorsRe: PeacefulchangeL3

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
On 4/26/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:20 AM 4/26/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 22:23:15 -0500, Dan Minette wrote At 07:37 PM 4/25/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote: You are conflating two separate things: a) serious consideration of the opinions of other

Re: Br!n: Through the Looking Glass

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
On 4/30/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:52 PM 4/28/2005 -0500, John Horn wrote: In recent weeks it has become clear that President Bush has floated a trial baloon regarding lifting the current cap on income subject to Social Security tax. Right now, income over $100,000 is

Re: Threats to the US

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
On 4/30/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:27 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Doug wrote: 1) -the potential of Saddam Hussein attacking Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States constituted a threat to the security of the United States? After the first Gulf war there was no threat to Saudi Arabia or

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
On 4/30/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:32 PM 4/26/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: The same majority party that has been cutting the funding of programs that preserve the lives of children is also anti-abortion. Which programs are those? I'm sure that you must have a specific

Privatized - The Galveston experience

2005-04-30 Thread Gary Denton
Something which amazes me is that people are actually bringing up the Southeast Texas experience in opting out of Social Security in support of the Bush plan. I guess I shouldn't be, they have also brought up Chile's experiment which is a disaster unless you are very rich. I have read several

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 12:53 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Cute (though hardly original) use of Photoshop, but who has a cost- and spam-free link to the actual article? -- Ronn! :) ___

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Erik Reuter
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 12:53 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Cute (though hardly original) use of Photoshop, but who has a cost- and spam-free link to the actual article? That would be

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:46 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, Erik Reuter wrote: * Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 12:53 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/30/dawkins/ Cute (though hardly original) use of Photoshop, but who has a cost- and spam-free

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Erik Reuter
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Or the behavior of one who simply refuses to be an enabler to spammers. No spam. Pay attention. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: The Root of All Evil

2005-04-30 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:04 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, Erik Reuter wrote: * Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Or the behavior of one who simply refuses to be an enabler to spammers. No spam. Pay attention. Sorry. I'm so broke this month I can't pay attention. *rimshot* I Told You I Know All The Old Jokes

Re: Abortion Cost-Benefit Analysis

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 07:14 PM 4/30/2005 -0700, Doug wrote: IncreasingO.k., child poverty is up since 2000-2001, but it is remains down significantly from the levels of, oh, Bill Clinton's Presidency. Clinton was president in 2000. And in 1996.Good enough to be re-elected in that year if I do

Re: Threats to the US

2005-04-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: After the first Gulf war there was no threat to Saudi Arabia or anyone else for that matter So, do you believe that the US should have withdrawn its forces from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the rest of the Persian Gulf following Gulf War I, as US troops were no longer necessary to

Re: Threats to the US

2005-04-30 Thread JDG
At 08:47 PM 4/30/2005 -0700, Doug wrote: My suggestion was meant to imply that it makes more sense to attack S.A. than it does to attack Iraq, O.k., its not clear from this message.Do you believe that the US should have pursued a war against Saudi Arabia after 9/11? a country that had no

Re: Threats to the US

2005-04-30 Thread Doug Pensinger
JDG wrote: At 08:47 PM 4/30/2005 -0700, Doug wrote: My suggestion was meant to imply that it makes more sense to attack S.A. than it does to attack Iraq, O.k., its not clear from this message.Do you believe that the US should have pursued a war against Saudi Arabia after 9/11? I think that