On Mon, 02 May 2005 00:20:21 -0400, JDG wrote
At 09:11 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
We have a president and Congress who are trying to make changes to Social
Security that would result in a decrease of benefits, by their own numbers.
How many notes do we have to hear before we can
On May 1, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Max Battcher wrote:
Warren Ockrassa wrote:
The problem with the pacing was that it *did not have to be cut*. All
the screenwriter had to do was start from the original material -- as
I mentioned before the first installment in radio form was only 2
hours long to
On May 1, 2005, at 7:49 PM, Dan Minette wrote:
Anger can be a reaction to fear...just as depression can be suppressed
anger. I think your suggestion that any atheist that gets angry at the
suggestion that God exists has unresolved personal issues with respect
to
God has real validity.
It makes
At 10:26 PM 01/05/05 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
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From: Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:59 PM
Subject: Re: Co-dependency
At 09:37 PM 01/05/05 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
snip
With all due respect,
At 12:35 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Keith Henson wrote:
At 10:13 PM 01/05/05 -0500, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 09:59 PM Sunday 5/1/2005, Keith Henson wrote:
At 09:37 PM 01/05/05 -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
snip
With all due respect, Keith, how familiar are you with the literature on
abusers returning to
At 03:11 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Keith Henson wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
That's not an experiment where the experimental procedure induces
capture-bonding by confinement and abusive treatment.
Fortunately.
And as I pointed out, and you confirmed, such experiments have been done,
even if they
On 5/1/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote
Out of curiosity, why is it that Erik and a few others are able to
get away with incessant windbaggery and insulting behavior?
Free speech.
More seriously... our list managers
* Dan Minette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Unfortunately, this list has had extensive experience testing this.
I tend to ignore nasty one liners unless I can just turn thembut
tend to counter arguments which actually have a point. FWIW, my
friendly local therapist is of the opinion that
At 09:11 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Programs? Medicaid (which pays for a third of all hospital births and
insures
25 million children) -- cut dramatically.
I'm curious as to what your source is for this.
Running some quick figures on government non-veterans, non-Medicare health
At 11:24 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote:
We have a president and Congress who are trying to make changes to Social
Security that would result in a decrease of benefits, by their own
numbers.
How many notes do we have to hear before we can name that tune?
So, you believe that there
At 10:59 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote:
It eventually becomes common
knowledge that those damn liberals are demanding that the US ask other
nations to be allowed to take action.
Do you disagree that there were/are many liberals who believed that
justification for Gulf War II required the US
At 09:49 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Reducing benefits to the neediest while
snip
Can we tell them with a straight face that we are being good
stewards by passing legislation that will reduce their benefits?
What's your source for this? The plan the President presented last week
Here is a question that Dan Minette may be able to answer quickly.
My goal is to get some grasp of the consequences of long term policies
by the two major US political parties.
A while back, Dan figured out the rate of measured economic growth in
each US political administration, excluding the
* Robert J. Chassell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* What would be the current GDP and median per capta US at the
growth rate that Republican administrations achieved historically?
Presume they were the only administration in power since 1948 (or
whatever is the base year) and that
On Mon, 02 May 2005 00:59:35 -0400, JDG wrote
At 09:11 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Programs? Medicaid (which pays for a third of all hospital births and
insures
25 million children) -- cut dramatically.
I'm curious as to what your source is for this.
All you have to do it look
At 03:29 AM 02/05/05 -0500, you wrote:
At 03:11 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Keith Henson wrote:
[snipped for brevity]
That's not an experiment where the experimental procedure induces
capture-bonding by confinement and abusive treatment.
Fortunately.
And as I pointed out, and you confirmed, such
On Mon, 02 May 2005 07:38:59 -0400, JDG wrote
What's your source for this? The plan the President presented last
week cut preserved benefits for the neediest, and reduced benefits
for the highest income earners.
In a plan that creates a shortfall by moving money into private
From: Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:31:11 -0500
http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2
The album I have been helping to midwife for the last
From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: List manager ethos (was Re: Permission Slips)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:42:42 -0700
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote
Out of
From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: The Root of All Evil
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 19:13:00 -0500
At 07:04 PM Saturday 4/30/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
* Ronn!Blankenship ([EMAIL
From: Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: Permission Slips
Re:RhetoricalQuestionsRE:RemovingDictatorsRe:PeacefulchangeL3
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700
On Apr 29, 2005, at 5:07 AM,
On 28 Feb 2005, at 12:31 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:14 PM, d.brin wrote:
[from the NYT article]
So biology students can be forgiven for wondering whether the
mysterious designer they're told about might not be the biblical
God after all, but rather some very advanced yet
On 5/2/05, JDG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 09:49 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Reducing benefits to the neediest while
snip
Can we tell them with a straight face that we are being good
stewards by passing legislation that will reduce their benefits?
What's your source for
On 5/2/05, Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Robert J. Chassell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
* What would be the current GDP and median per capta US at the
growth rate that Republican administrations achieved historically?
Presume they were the only administration in power
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:32 PM
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Subject: Re: Permission Slips
Re:RhetoricalQuestionsRE:RemovingDictatorsRe:PeacefulchangeL3
Out of curiosity, why is
-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:43 AM
To: Killer Bs Discussion
Subject: List manager ethos (was Re: Permission Slips)
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote
Out of
On May 2, 2005, at 4:32 AM, JDG wrote:
At 10:59 PM 5/1/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote:
It eventually becomes common
knowledge that those damn liberals are demanding that the US ask
other
nations to be allowed to take action.
Do you disagree that there were/are many liberals who believed that
On 5/2/05, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28 Feb 2005, at 12:31 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote:
On Feb 27, 2005, at 4:14 PM, d.brin wrote:
[from the NYT article]
So biology students can be forgiven for wondering whether the
mysterious designer they're told about might
Robert J. Chassell wrote:
My goal is to get some grasp of the consequences of long term policies
by the two major US political parties.
The simplest way is to find parallel universes where the other party
won and compare the results. I can't think of any other scientific
way to do it :-P
On May 2, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Gary Denton wrote:
Robert Sawyer has a novel about intelligent design. A spaceship lands
at a Toronto museum and an alien gets out and says take me to you
paleontologist. The aliens are studying the actions of God on
several worlds in this part of the galaxy. It is
Behalf Of Dan Minette
Anger can be a reaction to fear...just as depression can be
suppressed
anger. I think your suggestion that any atheist that gets
angry at the
suggestion that God exists has unresolved personal issues
with respect to
God has real validity. People who are very
Maru Dubshinki wrote:
On 5/1/05, Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:31:38 -0700, Warren Ockrassa wrote
Out of curiosity, why is it that Erik and a few others are able to
get away with incessant windbaggery and insulting behavior?
Free speech.
More seriously... our
Travis Edmunds wrote:
From: Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: I am spamming your head I am spamming your head
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:31:11 -0500
http://www.cdbaby.com/amycd2
The album I have been
On 5/2/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
_Calculating God_, yeah. As it happens I just finished it this weekend.
It's an interesting read but Sawyer leaves a gaping hole in his story
(two, actually), which he also did with _Hominids_.
In CG Sawyer's aliens suggest that the
Hi.
David Brin here.
Cheryl I will not be going to Glasgow for worldcon this August.
Anyone want to buy our memberships? Half current price.
Thrive all.
With cordial regards,
David Brin
www.davidbrin.com
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Now, I am not an economist but wouldn't it be almost impossible to
untangle causation here? Because the economy would run in cycles
irregardless of which party is in power, and voters would react
accordingly; so a party could get voted out on the basis of a normal
cyclical downturn, and voted in
On 4/29/05, Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 10:21 PM Friday 4/29/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote:
On 4/29/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In the shape it took for radio or the book, possibly not; but it
managed to make the transition to television more or less in one
On 4/25/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, fair enough -- but how would that really supply you with an answer?
If you simulated all senders and receivers, how would that be
significantly different from the message content's encryption itself?
You'd have a reduced range of
Any of you who haven't joined our regular Thursday pm gathering
online, using my Holocene Chat interface, are welcome to let me know.
Several brinellers participate. Each Thursday 4pm Pacific.
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This from my blog
Still too swamped to continue the formal essay. But let me call to
your
At 07:24 AM 5/2/2005 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote:
Programs? Medicaid (which pays for a third of all hospital births and
insures
25 million children) -- cut dramatically.
I'm curious as to what your source is for this.
All you have to do it look at today's news about the budget before
At 08:33 AM 5/2/2005 -0400, Bob Chassell wrote:
A while back, Dan figured out the rate of measured economic growth in
each US political administration, excluding the first two years.
* What would be the current GDP and median per capta US at the
growth rate that Republican administrations
At 11:45 PM 5/1/2005 -0500, Dan M. wrote:
O.k., here is the famous Kerry quote:
No president, though all of American history, has ever ceded, and nor
would I, the right to preempt in any way necessary to protect the United
States of America.
But if and when you do it, Jim, you have to do it
At 10:21 AM 5/2/2005 -0700, Dave Land wrote:
It eventually becomes common
knowledge that those damn liberals are demanding that the US ask
other
nations to be allowed to take action.
Do you disagree that there were/are many liberals who believed that
justification for Gulf War II required
On 4/26/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 07:53 PM 26/04/05 -0400, Maru wrote:
On 4/26/05, Keith Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Agreed. Further, I think I can describe what it takes, namely an
expanding
economy, to keep a population in a mode where it extends human to
Maru Dubshinki wrote:
how should we credit the boom of the
90's? To Clinton?
No: to the Saudis and Kuwaitians, who were paying a tribute
to the Empire after they were liberated from Saddam in 1991.
Alberto Monteiro
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Behalf Of JDG
Do you disagree that there were/are many liberals who believed
that
justification for Gulf War II required the US getting an explicit
reauthorization of the use of force from the UNSC?
Do you disagree that there were/are many conservatives who believed
that the justification
's website is featured on SciFi.com?
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue419/site.html
Hint: He reads this list sometimes
xponent
Namesake Maru
rob
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On 5/2/05, Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
's website is featured on SciFi.com?
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue419/site.html
Hint: He reads this list sometimes
xponent
Namesake Maru
rob
Hmm... Banks? Baxter? Benford? Bear? Vinge?
~Maru
D'oh!
/shoulda guessed.
At 10:43 AM Monday 5/2/2005, God wrote:
God -- wondering if this (and My previous message today) will ever make it
to the list.
They did . . . but I guess that those list members who don't believe the
sender exists will never read them . . .
:P
-- Ronn! :)
People who want to share their
At 06:32 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
* Dan Minette ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Unfortunately, this list has had extensive experience testing this.
I tend to ignore nasty one liners unless I can just turn thembut
tend to counter arguments which actually have a point. FWIW, my
Heh. The reviewer is a friend of mine...
Damon.
Damon Agretto
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html
Now Building: Italeri's M8 Greyhound
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:32 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
The invisible pink unicorns told me to help out here. God, I
hate them!
I've told you before: they're not pink, they're sort of a teal. And
you can see them just fine if you put a narrow-pass Lyman-alpha filter
in front
On Mon, 02 May 2005 20:18:41 -0400, JDG wrote
Feel free to refer to the inconvenient figures you snipped without response
from my last message in your answer.
Past figures don't address today's problems unless we're limiting ourselves to
two ideological choices. I'm not going to start
On May 2, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:32 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
The invisible pink unicorns told me to help out here. God, I
hate them!
I've told you before: they're not pink, they're sort of a teal. And
you can see them just fine if
Thanks.
Cool.
I think... ;-)
db
--- Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
's website is featured on SciFi.com?
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue419/site.html
Hint: He reads this list sometimes
xponent
Namesake Maru
rob
On May 2, 2005, at 8:14 PM, Robert G. Seeberger wrote:
I was at the store today buying groceries.
While in the checkout line I noticed the new TV Guide had a Revenge Of
The Sith pic with a whole mess of Wookies ready for battle.
In cheesy 3D!
Looked pretty awesome actually.
It's amazing what low
At 06:57 PM Monday 5/2/2005, Maru Dubshinki wrote:
~Maru
What's on first?
I dunno, but I want it cleaned off before my turn at bat . . .
-- Ronn! :)
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At 09:24 PM Monday 5/2/2005, Julia Thompson wrote:
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
At 06:32 AM Monday 5/2/2005, Erik Reuter wrote:
The invisible pink unicorns told me to help out here. God, I
hate them!
I've told you before: they're not pink, they're sort of a teal. And you
can see them just fine if
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