Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Apropos of nothing specific, I read in DW a couple weeks back that Germany is in the process of dismantling its nuke reactors and returning to fossil fuels for power. ¿Que? Wind farms often get voted down in the US, mostly because no one wants to live near one. Folks seem to think they're

Re: Discovery Channel's Greatest American

2005-06-15 Thread Leonard Matusik
: On Jun 14, 2005, at 4:03 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote: Naw , the greatest Jew was that carpenter guy... Justin, Joshua, Joey something like that. Tue, 14 Jun 2005 14:35:43 -0700Warren Ockrassa Fred. Fred Howard Christ. Worked in marketing, not carpentry. Pretty good guy. Or do you

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Leonard Matusik
On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:37:09 -0400 Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * David Brin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This is foul-mouthed insulting and sophistry. Actually, no, this is facts. For several messages ER has directed nasty ad hominem attacks at me. Not at all. I did

Re: apologies to real brinellers

2005-06-15 Thread Max Battcher
d.brin wrote: Sorry to the rest of you for getting sucked in.Fanboy sniping attacks are part of the territory and I generally snub the little gnats. Got fooled this time by the important topic (saving the world). I really feel sympathetic... I'm not famous and I deal with some of the

Re: Discovery Channel's Greatest American

2005-06-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Hey Leonard, what's up with the attributions in your replies? If I hadn't known what I wrote yesterday, I never would have been able to find your reply or separate it from my own comments... On Jun 15, 2005, at 4:16 AM, Leonard Matusik wrote: [me] Um, I believe you'll find Oskar Schindler

Weekly Chat Reminder

2005-06-15 Thread William T Goodall
As Steve said, The Brin-L weekly chat has been a list tradition for over six years. Way back on 27 May, 1998, Marco Maisenhelder first set up a chatroom for the list, and on the next day, he established a weekly chat time. We've been through several servers, chat technologies, and even casts of

Re: Gulags

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/14/05, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What REALLY bothers me about all this is this: If the United States wants to hold itself out as a paragon to the rest of the world, shouldn't we hold ourselves to a HIGHER standard than we'd hold other countries? If we want other countries to

Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/15/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apropos of nothing specific, I read in DW a couple weeks back that Germany is in the process of dismantling its nuke reactors and returning to fossil fuels for power. ¿Que? Wind farms often get voted down in the US, mostly because no

Re: Gulags

2005-06-15 Thread Gary Denton
Seems to belong here - a long article on the US interrogation system this past Sunday. Perm link http://tinyurl.com/7rmhr http://www.bugmenot.com Only after a new commanding officer had arrived and official inquiries had issued their reports did we learn that 40 percent of those penned up at

Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 15, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Gary Denton wrote: On 6/15/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wind farms often get voted down in the US, mostly because no one wants to live near one. Folks seem to think they're ugly. And lately there's been advertising done *here* as well, trying to

Apples Adventures in TCPA / Palladium

2005-06-15 Thread KZK
www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137787/security-chip-block-non-macs Security chip to limit OS X to Macs Apple looking to keep operating system from running on third-party hardware Tom Sanders in California, vnunet.com 13 Jun 2005 Apple could use the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip to ensure

Re: Gulags

2005-06-15 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 15, 2005, at 1:09 PM, Gary Denton wrote: http://www.bugmenot.com It's ironic that a New York Times columnist recommended bugmenot in a column (http://tinyurl.com/5hvqc) last month on minor annoyances, given that folks have probably used bugmenot to bypass the NYT's forced registration

Admin: Test message

2005-06-15 Thread Nick Arnett
We just rebooted the server, so I thought I'd make certain the list is up before I relax... Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voicemail: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Apples Adventures in TCPA / Palladium

2005-06-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 14, 2005, at 2:22 PM, KZK wrote: www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137787/security-chip-block-non-macs Security chip to limit OS X to Macs Apple looking to keep operating system from running on third-party hardware Tom Sanders in California, vnunet.com 13 Jun 2005 Apple could use the

Re: Brin: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Leonard Matusik [or someone else: you quote so badly that I can't get what is yours and what is quote] wrote: BUT consider our record on promoting conservation We say to the Brazilians; Please don't destroy your biodiversity, displace your unique aboriginal cultures and wantonly dump

Re: Forget global warming, let's make a difference

2005-06-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 03:37 PM Wednesday 6/15/2005, Dave Land wrote: On Jun 15, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Gary Denton wrote: On 6/15/05, Warren Ockrassa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wind farms often get voted down in the US, mostly because no one wants to live near one. Folks seem to think they're ugly. And lately

Re: Apples Adventures in TCPA / Palladium

2005-06-15 Thread Dave Land
On Jun 15, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 14, 2005, at 2:22 PM, KZK wrote: www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137787/security-chip-block-non-macs Security chip to limit OS X to Macs Apple looking to keep operating system from running on third-party hardware Tom Sanders in

Re: Admin: Test message

2005-06-15 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:48 PM Wednesday 6/15/2005, Nick Arnett wrote: We just rebooted the server, so I thought I'd make certain the list is up before I relax... This message arrived here, so you can lean back and open the beverage of your choice . . . -- Ronn! :)

Re: Apples Adventures in TCPA / Palladium

2005-06-15 Thread Julia Thompson
KZK wrote: www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2137787/security-chip-block-non-macs Security chip to limit OS X to Macs Apple looking to keep operating system from running on third-party hardware Tom Sanders in California, vnunet.com 13 Jun 2005 Apple could use the Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip