Re: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-18 Thread Gary Denton
Correction. This is a bipartisan scandal. The cover-up appears to start a few months before the 2000 election from the details presented. Gary Denton ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4106038.stm US father murdered nine children Wesson is said to have exerted tyrannical control over his family A US court has convicted a man of killing nine of his children, many of whom he had fathered through incest. Marcus Wesson, a 58-year-old

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
Millions Killed by Atheist Governments == Tiananmen Square, the symbolic political heart of China, was open to the public. But extra carloads of police watched tourists on the vast plaza, where weeks of student-led demonstrations that drew tens of thousands ended in a military attack 16

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 10:58 am, Warren Ockrassa wrote: Millions Killed by Atheist Governments Lenin and Stalin had already killed more than 12 million enemies of the state before Hitler and the Nazis took power in 1933. Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more

Now, this is just thoroughly tasteless....

2005-06-18 Thread Julia Thompson
http://www.pabaah.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=954 quote PABAAH is proud to announce that we are sponsoring the first annual Create A Pig With The Koran papier mache contest! The requirement for all entries is that the material used for all entries must be comprised of pages

RE: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-18 Thread PAT MATHEWS
From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among 11 children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931. No, it wasn't, looking back. The pianist/composer Blind Tom clearly had it, among other

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Religious zealot slaughters children Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Capitalism and Democracy are

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more evidence of the evil of religion. I wasn't going to mention them...yet. Irrational beliefs aren't restricted to belief in supernatural ghoulies, ghosties and gods

Re: Now, this is just thoroughly tasteless....

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder how they'd feel about someone using pages from a Bible to construct something from papier mache? Sheesh. More appropriate might be shreds of the US flag. -- Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 11:39 AM Saturday 6/18/2005, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 6:37 AM, William T Goodall wrote: Stalinism and Nazism are both quasi-religions. Thanks for giving more evidence of the evil of religion. I wasn't going to mention them...yet. Irrational beliefs aren't restricted to

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 4:20 pm, Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 8:37 AM Subject: Re: Religious zealot slaughters children Stalinism and Nazism are both

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:48 AM, William T Goodall wrote: One of these identifying features is a prophetic figure whose revelations form the basis of the religion. Such figures include Jesus, Hitler, Buddha, Marx. No corresponding individual exists for capitalism or democracy. George Washington

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And how rational is it to pursue religion as being the evil in the universe? Doesn't such behavior presume that the *atheistic* group are The Ones Who Possess The Truth? Well, of course. That goes without saying. But if you have any

RE: Now, this is just thoroughly tasteless....

2005-06-18 Thread Horn, John
Behalf Of Warren Ockrassa On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder how they'd feel about someone using pages from a Bible to construct something from papier mache? Sheesh. More appropriate might be shreds of the US flag. I couldn't help but think of the outcry

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 6:16 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: And how rational is it to pursue religion as being the evil in the universe? Doesn't such behavior presume that the *atheistic* group are The Ones Who Possess The Truth? Well, of

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 6:05 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 9:48 AM, William T Goodall wrote: One of these identifying features is a prophetic figure whose revelations form the basis of the religion. Such figures include Jesus, Hitler, Buddha, Marx. No corresponding individual

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:19 AM, William T Goodall wrote: You're stretching an actual definition into a metaphor. The features I listed (plus several others) are the ways anthropologists and theologians identify religions as opposed to other kinds of organisations like zaibatsu or bowling

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 7:45 pm, Warren Ockrassa wrote: On Jun 18, 2005, at 11:19 AM, William T Goodall wrote: You're stretching an actual definition into a metaphor. The features I listed (plus several others) are the ways anthropologists and theologians identify religions as opposed to

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread KZK
Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Horn, John
Behalf Of William T Goodall Another feature is the holy text: Bible, Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, Koran. Again, no such text exists for capitalism or democracy. What about Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations? That's clearly a holy text of capitalism. And Alexis de Tocqueville's Democracy In

Re: Now, this is just thoroughly tasteless....

2005-06-18 Thread Gary Denton
On 6/18/05, Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Behalf Of Warren Ockrassa On Jun 18, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: I wonder how they'd feel about someone using pages from a Bible to construct something from papier mache? Sheesh. More appropriate might be shreds of the

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 11:33 pm, Horn, John wrote: Behalf Of William T Goodall Another feature is the holy text: Bible, Mein Kampf, Das Kapital, Koran. Again, no such text exists for capitalism or democracy. What about Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nations? That's clearly a holy text of

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread William T Goodall
On 18 Jun 2005, at 8:51 pm, KZK wrote: Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web :

Re: Cover-up or protection?

2005-06-18 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 6/18/05, PAT MATHEWS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] The disease was unknown until 1943, when it was identified and diagnosed among 11 children born in the months after thimerosal was first added to baby vaccines in 1931. No, it wasn't, looking back. The

Re: Religious zealot slaughters children

2005-06-18 Thread Julia Thompson
William T Goodall wrote: On 18 Jun 2005, at 8:51 pm, KZK wrote: Tens of millions killed by Indian (continental) cult 'thugees'. Hundreds of millions killed by roman catholic church. Story at eleven. Are you a new troll or an old troll with a new address? Do you want to know badly