Re: Week 9 NFL Picks

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], pencimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's got a long way to go to prove that to me. You can put up gaudy numbers and win a lot of regular season games (Dan Marino and the young John Elway) but you don't achieve greatness in football in the regular season. Montana, the

Re: Heroes Spoilers as of 11/5

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING***SPOILERS (And not necessarily all that accurate - rob) Claire's dad isn't the bad guy, here, though he was set up as such. Not saying he's nice, either, but he's not hellbent on destruction

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing the server problems with Brin-L ate the end of the previous thread on this topic, but I still haven't heard a good argument for discrimination on gender preference for marriage. Except that the previous thread

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
JDG wrote: This is the single-biggest difference between liberals who advocate judicial activism and conservatives who advocate judicial restraint. The former seem to take the position that Court decisions can be driven by whether or not something is a good idea. The latter insist that

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
JDG wrote: recognizing that the law may occasionally be immoral, unjust, or just plain a bad idea So we agree then that the NJ ruling was legit? Or is it moral, just and a good idea to treat someone differently because of their sexual orientation? Doug

Judicial Activism

2006-11-06 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdiebremse Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:49 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Gay marriage in the closet --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm

RE: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pencimen Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:20 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Gay marriage in the closet JDG wrote: recognizing that the law may occasionally be immoral, unjust, or

RE: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdiebremse Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:48 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Those who can't, teach Resign, since it is undemocratic to be appointed or made president by magic,

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
Dan wrote: I think his point is that the principal of rule by law indicates that sometimes we must accept laws that are immoral, unjust, or bad ideas. Yes, I misread the post, sorry. Of course I couldn't disagree more. What is the use of a constitution whose tenets are ignored or a court that

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread Nick Arnett
On 11/6/06, Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still, what would you do if elected president does seem a reasonable way to ask what do you think should be done by the President? I think that thinking of what you would do as President is a reasonable way to think about which presidential

RE: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdiebremse Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:48 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Those who can't, teach If changing the way you think means taking the easy way out, and leaving tens of

RE: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pencimen Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 12:44 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Gay marriage in the closet Dan wrote: I think his point is that the principal of rule by law indicates

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
Dan wrote: But, as that likelihood of that scenario playing out continues to decrease, then we need, IMHO, to consider the first rules of holes: when you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. I think we've reached a point where we cannot stop a civil war from

Re: Heroes Spoilers as of 11/5

2006-11-06 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:43 AM Subject: Re: Heroes Spoilers as of 11/5 --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert G. Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WARNING***SPOILERS

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jdiebremse Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 6:48 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Those who can't, teach Resign, since it is undemocratic to be appointed or made president by

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 2:49 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm guessing the server problems with Brin-L ate the end of the previous thread on this topic, but I still haven't heard a good argument for discrimination on gender preference for

AAA Batteries Delivered and Installed

2006-11-06 Thread Nick Arnett
Okay, show of hands -- how many people, reading the subject of this email, had the same thoughts I did when I saw this on a truck this afternoon? I'll bet they do other sizes, too. And... Wow, some people are LAZY. And... That truck must hold a LOT of them. (Okay, so the message subject

Re: AAA Batteries Delivered and Installed

2006-11-06 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:53 PM Monday 11/6/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: Okay, show of hands -- how many people, reading the subject of this email, had the same thoughts I did when I saw this on a truck this afternoon? I'll bet they do other sizes, too. And... Wow, some people are LAZY. And... That truck must hold

Is Britain Becoming a Surveillance Society?

2006-11-06 Thread John D. Giorgis
An oddly on-topic article.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6108496.stm JDG ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: AAA Batteries Delivered and Installed

2006-11-06 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 6, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Nick Arnett wrote: Okay, show of hands -- how many people, reading the subject of this email, had the same thoughts I did when I saw this on a truck this afternoon? My hand is down, although, after reading your message, I thought, Man, talk about specialization

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], pencimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: recognizing that the law may occasionally be immoral, unjust, or just plain a bad idea So we agree then that the NJ ruling was legit? No. Or is it moral, just and a good idea to treat someone differently because of their sexual

Re: AAA Batteries Delivered and Installed

2006-11-06 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: Okay, show of hands -- how many people, reading the subject of this email, had the same thoughts I did when I saw this on a truck this afternoon? I'll bet they do other sizes, too. And... Wow, some people are LAZY. And... That truck must hold a LOT of them. (Okay, so the

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], pencimen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan wrote: I think his point is that the principal of rule by law indicates that sometimes we must accept laws that are immoral, unjust, or bad ideas. Yes, I misread the post, sorry. First, thank you to Dan for explaining my

Re: Judicial Activism

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a few initial questions that I have. First, are you arguing for original intent, or do you accept judicial history as law? For example, do you think the Supreme Court is legally obliged to overturn 140 or so years of

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the single-biggest difference between liberals who advocate judicial activism and conservatives who advocate judicial restraint. The former seem to take the position that Court decisions can be driven by whether

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Nick, in your mind is it democratic to get elected after counting ballots in predominantly Democratic areas one way and counting ballots in predominantly Republican areas another way? Moreover, Nick, do you consider the

Re: Week 9 NFL Picks

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
JDG wrote: So, in other words, you judge QB's in part by factors that are completely outside their control? In part, of course. If a QB with fantastic potential is badly injured early in their career, never to reach his potential, will he ever be considered great? If a QB with potential ends

Re: Those who can't, teach

2006-11-06 Thread Nick Arnett
On 11/6/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am jabbering about the fact that you are repeating a lie - that the President was appointed rather than elected in 2000 - so often as to actually start to believe that it is true. You didn't ask what George Bush would do if he were

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
JDG wrote: Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but everyone in New Jersey was and is free to marry, regardless of their sexual orientation If the partner of choice isn't involved then the word free is somewhat misplaced. In any case, it's heartening to see that, despite the best effort of

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 4:15 PM, jdiebremse wrote: Or is it moral, just and a good idea to treat someone differently because of their sexual orientation? Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but everyone in New Jersey was and is free to marry, regardless of their sexual orientation They're not

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 5:08 PM, pencimen wrote: JDG wrote: Maybe I'm being a bit pedantic, but everyone in New Jersey was and is free to marry, regardless of their sexual orientation If the partner of choice isn't involved then the word free is somewhat misplaced. In any case, it's

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread pencimen
Charlie wrote: Still got a long way to go, especially in countries where they're specifically enacting legislation to forbid gay marriage. Round and round we go. I agree, but younger people have more tolerant attitudes and are more likely to ask why we discourage loving relationships.

Re: Gay marriage in the closet

2006-11-06 Thread Charlie Bell
On 07/11/2006, at 5:56 PM, pencimen wrote: Charlie wrote: Still got a long way to go, especially in countries where they're specifically enacting legislation to forbid gay marriage. Round and round we go. I agree, but younger people have more tolerant attitudes and are more likely to