Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 17/07/2008, at 10:19 AM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Alright, are you just yanking my chain or what? You seem to be asking me to telepathically implant the information needed for un- knowledgeable computer users to safely attach their computers to the Internet. No, just pointing out that

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 17/07/2008, at 3:54 PM, Dave Land wrote: It's up to the manufacturers: add a layer _in_the_box_ between Windows and the big, bad Interwebs. Sell it as the Internet Security version with built-in hardware firewall. To be fair, a good number of ADSL modems are NAT routers these days. Ours

Development: US fails to measure up on 'human index'

2008-07-17 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jul/17/internationalaidanddevelopment.usa · Nation slumps from 2nd to 12th in global table · Richest fifth take home $168,000, poorest $11,000 • Ashley Seager • The Guardian, • Thursday July 17, 2008 • Article history Despite

Re: Development: US fails to measure up on 'human index'

2008-07-17 Thread Alberto Monteiro
William T Goodall quoted: The report, Measure of America, was funded by Oxfam America, the Conrad Hilton Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation. (...) H... How reliable are those sources? It seems that some of them have hidden agendas. Alberto Monteiro

Re: Development: US fails to measure up on 'human index'

2008-07-17 Thread Martin Lewis
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The report, Measure of America, was funded by Oxfam America, the Conrad Hilton Foundation and the Rockefeller Foundation. (...) H... How reliable are those sources? It seems that some of them have hidden agendas.

Re: Computer Security

2008-07-17 Thread John Garcia
Sorry. My bad. john On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Ronn! Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 02:56 PM Wednesday 7/16/2008, John Garcia wrote: There are other problems that have nothing to do with one O/S vs another. A disgruntled network engineer in San Francisco has apparently

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Lance A. Brown
Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my workplace, but bloody hell it can be frustrating at times! I feel your pain, brother. :-) I'm the sole in-department sysadmin

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 17/07/2008, at 11:57 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my workplace, but bloody hell it can be frustrating at times! I feel your pain,

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread John Garcia
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my workplace, but bloody hell it can be frustrating at

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/07/2008, at 12:07 AM, John Garcia wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've worked in IT in the private, public and educational sectors and I was never more frustrated than when I worked at a university. Was that 'cause of the

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread John Garcia
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/07/2008, at 11:57 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:07 AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 17/07/2008, at 11:57 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my workplace, but bloody hell it

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread John Garcia
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/07/2008, at 12:07 AM, John Garcia wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've worked in IT in the private, public and educational sectors and I was never more

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 17, 2008, at 9:24 AM, John Garcia wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:07 AM, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/07/2008, at 11:57 PM, Lance A. Brown wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo...

Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

2008-07-17 Thread William T Goodall
http://www.drhorrible.com/ Anyone not watching this? Cultural Event Maru -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Theists cannot be trusted as they believe that right and wrong are the arbitrary proclamations

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 16 Jul 2008 at 20:19, Lance A. Brown wrote: You need to lobby the vendors who sell computers, Apple, Dell, HP, etc. to configure the machines they sell so they have all the security features needed turned on at time of sale. Um, ime they do. Along with 101 bits of crapware which have no

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread William T Goodall
On 17 Jul 2008, at 00:13, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: None of which means anything to the average non-technical person who is buying a computer for his/her kids to use for school or a grandmother finally buying a computer to view pictures of her grandchildren who live out of state, who is not

Re: Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

2008-07-17 Thread Julia Thompson
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.drhorrible.com/ Anyone not watching this? Cultural Event Maru I'm not. I might this weekend or something. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

2008-07-17 Thread Charlie Bell
On 18/07/2008, at 4:22 AM, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.drhorrible.com/ Anyone not watching this? Managed to download and convert to Xvid, Acts 1 and 2 are on the PS3 now ready to watch at the weekend when Act 3 is released... Charlie.

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
John Garcia wrote: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Lance A. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charlie Bell said the following on 7/17/2008 3:32 AM: Welcome to my world. IT Support at a law firm at the mo... *banging head on desk* I love my job, I love my workplace, but bloody hell it

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Bruce Bostwick
I've seen firsthand the kind of damage a Ph.D. can do if there are no constraining factors. Condensed version of the story: Geophysics professors should not attempt carpentry, especially if their idea of how to cut a 4x4 is with a circulal saw, and even more so if they don't see anything

Re: Dr Horrible's Sing-Along Blog

2008-07-17 Thread Max Battcher
Julia Thompson wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2008, William T Goodall wrote: http://www.drhorrible.com/ Anyone not watching this? Cultural Event Maru I've found it quite entertaining so far (the Captain Hammer How to Be Like Me comic is also fun). I'm not. I might this weekend or something.

Re: Chicken and Egg

2008-07-17 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Bruce Bostwick wrote: I've seen firsthand the kind of damage a Ph.D. can do if there are no constraining factors. Condensed version of the story: Geophysics professors should not attempt carpentry, especially if their idea of how to cut a 4x4 is with a circulal saw, and even more so if