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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 2:39 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Genesis
What's wicked about bringing children into the
world that you have the
Dan M wrote:
There is no evidence that, if the United States decided
to fade away as continental Europe is doing, instead of
having a ZPG birth rate, (...)
Brazil is fading away too. Last count is 1.8 births/female.
Alberto Monteiro
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On 30 Jul 2008, at 15:46, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dan M wrote:
There is no evidence that, if the United States decided
to fade away as continental Europe is doing, instead of
having a ZPG birth rate, (...)
Brazil is fading away too. Last count is 1.8 births/female.
Below the UK and
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Dan M wrote:
There is no evidence that, if the United States
decided
to fade away as continental Europe is doing,
instead of
having a ZPG birth rate, (...)
Brazil is fading away too. Last count is 1.8
births/female.
Below the UK and France but well above Thailand (1.5) and
South
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Subject: Re: Genesis
On 30 Jul 2008, at 15:46, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
Dan M wrote:
From: Dan M
What's wicked about bringing children
into the world that you have the
resources to support and nurture?
Doug
it's wicked because it creates even more
scarcity among other children
in undeveloped countries whose parents do not have the
resources to
support and
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On 30 Jul 2008, at 19:31, Dan M wrote:
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On 30 Jul 2008, at
Dan M wrote:
There is no evidence that, if the United
States decided
to fade away as continental Europe is doing,
instead of
having a ZPG birth rate, (...)
we're looking at a
Europe that will be shrinking, roughly, 30% per generation.
We see birth
rates exceeding death rates in
William T Goodall quoted:
The provisional Total Fertility Rate (TFR) for 2007 gives an
average of 1.91 children per woman in England and Wales. This is an
increase from 1.86 in 2006 and is the sixth consecutive annual
increase from a low point in 2001 where the TFR was 1.63. The last
On 30 Jul 2008, at 20:41, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
William T Goodall quoted:
The provisional Total Fertility Rate (TFR) for 2007 gives an
average of 1.91 children per woman in England and Wales. This is an
increase from 1.86 in 2006 and is the sixth consecutive annual
increase from a low
On 31/07/2008, at 4:31 AM, Dan M wrote:
Given the fact that Europe is showing resistance to the idea of
significant
additional immigration of non-Europeans, and that Japan has long
held racial
purity as important, I wonder who will take care of all the baby
boomers as
they enter
People will have to work longer. As life
expectancies continue to increase,
retirement age will have to increase too.
Charlie.
only seems fair. in the usa full social security benefits
have gone up one full year, to age 66 for my age bracket:
People will have to work longer. As life expectancies continue to
increase, retirement age will have to increase too.
I understand that, and that's reasonable. The retirement age for Social
Security in the US has been moved up from 65 to 67 for folks my age and will
be 68 for folks a few
i was not the one who initiated the scarcity of commodities argument,
although it is obviously that 3,000 years ago lo tech societies did not
consume and pollute anywhere near the levels of almost seven billion
(approaching 6,832,000,000) do today. prior to the agricultural
revolution
BTW - when you talk about people working longer, don't assume we are all
leaving the work force early because we want to. While firing people because of
their age is illegal in the United States, giving them poor performance
reviews, making their lives miserable, etc can be done and often is.
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Subject: RE: Genesis
BTW - when you talk about people working longer, don't assume we are all
dan, of course ancient societies had little control over their lives, but we
live in the 21st century now, and it still goes on. i am not denying that
wealth can be created and technology increases production. it is also
unquestionable that medical science, diet and other factors have
At 10:58 PM Wednesday 7/30/2008, Jon Louis Mann wrote:
dan, of course ancient societies had little control over their
lives, but we live in the 21st century now, and it still goes on. i
am not denying that wealth can be created and technology increases
production. it is also unquestionable
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Ronn! wrote:
One obvious-seeming answer is to start by getting rid of the
dishonest politicians, but then some people would complain about
invasions and nation-building again . . .
If it were just the politicians I might agree with you, but I think that the
whole system has been
One obvious-seeming answer is to start by getting rid of
dishonest politicians, but then some people would complain
about invasions and nation-building again.
. . . ronn! :)
a better way to start is to stop supporting dictators in other nations, and
impeaching dishonest politicians in the
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