RE: Channeling...

2008-09-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
I demand to have some booze! 10 points to anyone who can determine which movie that comes from. Curtis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Land Sent: 30 September 2008 02:09 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re:

Re: Channeling...

2008-09-30 Thread Charlie Bell
On 30/09/2008, at 6:24 PM, Curtis Burisch wrote: I demand to have some booze! 10 points to anyone who can determine which movie that comes from. Withnail and I, you terrible c**t. So, can you construct a Camberwell Carrot? Do you cover yourself in Deep Heat to stay warm? Have you gone 60

RE: Channeling...

2008-09-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
10 points to Charlie!! And, in answer to your questions: Yes, no, and yes! Curtis Get in the back of the van Maru! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie Bell Sent: 30 September 2008 11:49 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al)

Re: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote: Instead of a 700 billion dollar bailout for corporate America, loan that money to qualified American families who need to save their home. Bail out homeowners, rather than banks; that should solve the housing crisis. Each family would get... hmmm... 10,000

RE: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Curtis Burisch
10,000 bucks would make a difference -- an extra $1000 a month for 10 months would almost certainly ease the situation. The problem is not the debt itself, but the increased cost of servicing that debt that has resulted from higher interest rates. Curtis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread dsummersminet
-- Original message -- From: John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan M Once told to me, the reason is obvious: flight to quality during a panic. Do you differ? Do I disagree that this was once told to you? Well, your view is such a mixture of accepting

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread John Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, your view is such a mixture of accepting and rejecting common ecconomics, Economists frequently disagree. Often, economics changes by having a professor at a prestigious university pump out a bunch of students with the same views. This kind of

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM, John Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, your view is such a mixture of accepting and rejecting common ecconomics, Economists frequently disagree. More generally with each other than with themselves. Nick (who is

Re: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 4:08 AM, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Each family would get... hmmm... 10,000 dollars? Sort of. It would hardly scratch the problem, since, AFAIK, each family's debts are about two magnitudes highter than that. Eh? Two orders of magnitude more than

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread John Williams
Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM, John Williams wrote: Economists frequently disagree. More generally with each other than with themselves. I have seen a lot of I am of two minds statements by economists recently.

I can't predict the future and I've been wrong quite a few times now

2008-09-30 Thread John Williams
A loan interview: http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?videoId=186056 I can't predict the future and I've been wrong quite a few times now ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread Julia Thompson
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, John Williams wrote: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 8:10 AM, John Williams wrote: Economists frequently disagree. More generally with each other than with themselves. I have seen a lot of I am of two minds statements by economists

Re: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: Each family would get... hmmm... 10,000 dollars? Sort of. It would hardly scratch the problem, since, AFAIK, each family's debts are about two magnitudes highter than that. Eh? Two orders of magnitude more than $10,000 is $1 million. I based my estimates on the data I

Re: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: Each family would get... hmmm... 10,000 dollars? Sort of. It would hardly scratch the problem, since, AFAIK, each family's debts are about two magnitudes highter than that. Eh? Two orders

Re: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: I based my estimates on the data I have - each family is in debt at 3x their properties, each property evaluated at $ 300,000. Am I wrong? Is it more than 1 MM? Are you talking about personal debt or the U.S. national debt? Personal debt. So, you think I am

RE: Economic Recovery Plan

2008-09-30 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alberto Monteiro Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 11:51 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Economic Recovery Plan Nick Arnett wrote: I based my estimates on the data

Re: Channeling...

2008-09-30 Thread Richard Baker
Dave said: Thanks for helping me remember that it is Erik, not Eric. I was fooled by Rob's message, I think. I remember him getting annoyed with people continually making that mistake when he was here. I miss Erik's points of view, but not entirely his methods of presenting them. Rich

RE: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 10:11 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: My contribution to the bail-out We don't have to hope that. Personally, I hope that

Re: My contribution to the bail-out

2008-09-30 Thread John Williams
Dan M [EMAIL PROTECTED] As had been mentioned here before, they are both very highly leveraged. My memory is that Barclay's leveraged 30 to 1 and Deutsche Bank is leveraged about 50 to 1. That means a modest run on ether bank will result in them becoming unable to give people who

FWD: September Madness office pool

2008-09-30 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
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