monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Jon Louis Mann
It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. Obvious Maru what manifesto? oblivious maru... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 12:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. Obvious Maru what manifesto? oblivious maru... On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread David Hobby
William T Goodall wrote: On 19 Oct 2008, at 12:04, Jon Louis Mann wrote: It's been very quiet here since the thought police manifesto. ... On 20 Aug 2008, at 15:12, Nick Arnett wrote: I don't think we've ever moderated anybody for frequent off-topic posting, but I'm growing increasingly

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Dave Land
William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He expressed concern that your posts were a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate Seems he was right. Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sick

Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 1:05 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Indicating that my fears that Nick's threats of censorship would discourage posting were fully justified. There's a lot I'd LIKE to say in response, but I'll just let the cold, hard facts -- the numbers -- tell the

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Olin Elliott
Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sick of your monotonous posts. Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William, and the energy

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Lance A. Brown
Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William, and the energy that goes into villainizing him to

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:48, Nick Arnett wrote: During the weeks following my post, we had abnormally high activity -- more than two standard deviations from the mean. One of those weeks, we were at more than five standard deviations above the mean. Obviously controversy always causes a

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 00:01, Lance A. Brown wrote: Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William,

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:15, Dave Land wrote: William, Nick never threatened to censor you, however much you wish to interpret his email that way. He expressed concern that your posts were a distraction and offensive to some who might otherwise participate Seems he was right. Maybe the

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:59, Olin Elliott wrote: Maybe the posts have dropped off because people got so damn sick of your monotonous posts. Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is.

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Julia Thompson
On Sun, 19 Oct 2008, Lance A. Brown wrote: Olin Elliott said the following on 10/19/2008 5:59 PM: Or maybe it was because each one of his monotonous posts elicit dozens of responses from people telling him how monotonous and irritating he is. I find everyone's responses to William, and

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 10:50 AM, Julia Thompson wrote: Sometimes some folks have problem spotting the troll. Yep. Sneaky at times, them trolls. And there's a subtle difference between someone trolling purely maliciously, and someone yanking a chain in order to hold a mirror up to someone else's

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Julia Thompson wrote: That's just me. And, well, I have an underdeveloped sense of tact; at least 2/3 of whatever might be perceived as tact in me is actually my keeping my mouth shut when in doubt. (If you do that in person, but stay attentive to the conversation, you may end up with a

Ouch (crosspost).

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
Yesterday I took part in the Around The Bay in a Day ride. Here's the route. Length of about 210km (130 miles). http://www.bv.com.au/map/gmap/atb2008/?slct1=2 I was on the bike for 8h 10m (and on a standard road bike rather than my recumbent...). I was in a fair bit of pain at the end.

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 11:11 AM, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: I've always loved the quote from Abraham Lincoln: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. If it was indeed Lincoln that penned it. It's also been attributed to Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde and a

High school student faces felony charges for writing a story about zombies

2008-10-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://groxx.com/ZeroTolerance/High_school_student_faces_felony_charges_for_writing_a_story_about_zombies-1/ . . . ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So my posts obviously didn't contribute to that decline since I stopped making them. That leaves Nick's threats of censorship as an explanation. And since there was no decline, but rather an extremely unusual

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 19 Oct 2008, at 22:48, Nick Arnett wrote: During the weeks following my post, we had abnormally high activity -- more than two standard deviations from the mean. One of those weeks, we were at more than

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 01:51, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:32 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my posts obviously didn't contribute to that decline since I stopped making them. That leaves Nick's threats of censorship as an explanation. And since there was

Space Based Solar Power

2008-10-19 Thread hkhenson
Little over two weeks ago I was at a military conference in Florida on power satellites. I was talking about the pup up and push idea of sending a laser stage up to 260 miles and while it's above the atmosphere push it into geosynchronous transfer orbit with a 4 GW ablation propulsion laser.

Re: High school student faces felony charges for writing a story about zombies

2008-10-19 Thread sendai
On 20/10/2008, at 10:41 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://groxx.com/ZeroTolerance/High_school_student_faces_felony_charges_for_writing_a_story_about_zombies-1/ T'was in 2005 (it's ten days to the day all charges were dropped, likely the reason it's pop-ed up again.) A good summary of the

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread Lance A. Brown
William T Goodall said the following on 10/19/2008 7:27 PM: First rule of dealing with trolls: Don't Feed The Troll. That's a very sound policy I've been following for years. Don't post in a thread you don't like, especially to complain that you don't like it. Did I say I didn't like

Re: Space Based Solar Power

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 5:45 PM, hkhenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At dinner with a couple of officers and Charles Miller, Charles made a case (obvious only in retrospect) that there is a simple, already tried, way to finance even a few hundred billion dollars for power satellites. Declare

Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker (was Re: monotonous posting)

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 02:05, Nick Arnett wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, and this is my preference, just drop it. You are completely wrong; the numbers don't lie. Of course you prefer not be shown to be wrong. I think it's very clear

Re: monotonous posting

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 02:51, Lance A. Brown wrote: William T Goodall said the following on 10/19/2008 7:27 PM: First rule of dealing with trolls: Don't Feed The Troll. That's a very sound policy I've been following for years. Don't post in a thread you don't like, especially to complain that

Speaking of unicorns

2008-10-19 Thread Julia Thompson
At least, unicorns were mentioned in some other thread today http://www.democraticstuff.com/Unicorns-for-Obama-Photo-Button-p/bt23828.htm That site has an awful lot of buttons for sale. Many of them are *highly* amusing for various reasons. Julia

No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:56 PM, William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Of course you prefer not be shown to be wrong. I think it's very clear to any reasonable person that I am right. Your blustering and posturing isn't going to convince anyone otherwise. My apologies to all for feeding

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread William T Goodall
On 20 Oct 2008, at 03:07, Nick Arnett wrote: I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much disruption the list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... I really don't think you are fit to be list manager. You should do the decent thing and quit. Advice

Re: High school student faces felony charges for writing a story about zombies

2008-10-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 08:21 PM Sunday 10/19/2008, sendai wrote: On 20/10/2008, at 10:41 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://groxx.com/ZeroTolerance/High_school_student_faces_felony_charges_for_writing_a_story_about_zombies-1/ T'was in 2005 (it's ten days to the day all charges were dropped, likely the

Re: High school student faces felony charges for writing a story about zombies

2008-10-19 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: http://groxx.com/ZeroTolerance/High_school_student_faces_felony_charges_for_writing_a_story_about_zombies-1/ Will civilization ever return to the United States? Some days I have my doubts. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:12 PM Sunday 10/19/2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 03:07, Nick Arnett wrote: I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much disruption the list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... I really don't think you are fit to be list

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 1:12 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 03:07, Nick Arnett wrote: I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much disruption the list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... I really don't think you are fit to be list

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: I really don't think you are fit to be list manager. You should do the decent thing and quit. Are you volunteering your time and equipment? Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: No more feeding the troll (was Re: Debunking B.S. from the so-called debunker )

2008-10-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Nick wrote: I'll stop feeding him now and perhaps ponder just how much disruption the list managers should tolerate. A lot, of course, but sheesh... Excellent idea. There is as much or even more disruption in the tumultuous replies than there were in the original messages. Doug Just roll

Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
And then we find out if the US will continue its slide into theocracy and demagoguery, or if there's at least a glimmer of hope in turning what should be one of the world's great citizen nations back from the brink. I know there's not been a lot of election chatter this time round. I

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Charlie Bell wrote: And then we find out if the US will continue its slide into theocracy and demagoguery, or if there's at least a glimmer of hope in turning what should be one of the world's great citizen nations back from the brink. I think that the only things that can stop Obama now

Re: Two Weeks To Go

2008-10-19 Thread Charlie Bell
On 20/10/2008, at 4:24 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: But how amazing would it be if Obama does win? I'd have told you a year ago that there was no way in hell that an African American could compete for the presidency, let alone be the favorite with a few weeks to go. The unfortunate thing is