RE: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down withRobin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Dan M
> -Original Message- > From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On > Behalf Of Trent Shipley > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:23 PM > To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion > Subject: Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down > withRo

RE: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Dan M
  Of course, I knew there was another strain in libertarianism that was based in morality.  This was an ideological commitment to maximize individual freedom.  Basically Aleister Crowley's "Harm no one and do what thou wilt", with the "harm no one" clause being optional--particularly when doing bus

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Matt Grimaldi
That falls in with IAAMOAC. There are dues to pay when you are a member. -- Matt - Original Message From: David Hobby To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 5:11:02 PM Subject: Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Ro

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread David Hobby
Trent Shipley wrote: ... The moral principle that "taxes are theft" suffers from a similar limitation. Logically taxes ARE theft. Newspeak! I stand behind this. When theft is understood as any taking, except as punishment, then taxes are logically a form of theft. It's a logical

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Trent Shipley
While writing this I tried to imagine how a certain kind of libertarian thought about the world. It is a shallow exercise in participant observation. To appreciate what I wrote you must at least partially empathize with our libertarian subject. Nick Arnett wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:42 P

Re: Br!n: Libertarian Morality--Up with good King John, down with Robin Hood.

2009-08-07 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: > > It started me thinking about the bases of libertarianism and American > conservatism. Previously when I had thought of libertarianism, I had > not thought of it as particularly based in a moral principle. Good for you... it's not, IMO.