First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
Triceratops 'never really existed but was just a young version of another dinosaur' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1299666/Triceratops-really-existed.html or http://tinyurl.com/28tbfy8 ___

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/08/2010, at 8:24 PM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Triceratops 'never really existed but was just a young version of another dinosaur' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1299666/Triceratops-really-existed.html Or more precisely, it's been discovered that _Torosaurus_ has been

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: But thanks, it's a great example of science at work. It's also becoming common - lots of what were thought to be different species are becoming merged as the numbers of specimens increases. What we're learning is that some dinosaurs had some pretty impressive

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 03/08/2010, at 10:35 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: But thanks, it's a great example of science at work. It's also becoming common - lots of what were thought to be different species are becoming merged as the numbers of specimens increases. What we're learning is

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.brwrote: There can't be too many different species, Noah's Ark wasn't big enough to carry them all! What, evolution stopped with the Ark? As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2010, at 16:10, Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.br wrote: There can't be too many different species, Noah's Ark wasn't big enough to carry them all! What, evolution stopped with the Ark? As long as we're on that

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William T Goodall w...@wtgab.demon.co.ukwrote: ... When presented with the statement “human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals,” just 45 percent of respondents indicated “true.” Compare this figure with the affirmative

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:29 AM, William T Goodall w...@wtgab.demon.co.uk wrote: ... When presented with the statement “human beings, as we know them today, developed from earlier species of animals,” just 45 percent of respondents indicated

RE: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Julia
_ From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 10:34 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . . It is bad luck to be superstitious!

Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett wrote: There can't be too many different species, Noah's Ark wasn't big enough to carry them all! What, evolution stopped with the Ark? As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I have with creationists is that they believe in a God

Re: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I have with creationists is that they believe in a God who is too stupid to have created evolution. They also believe in a god who loves them so much that he'll

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Nick Arnett wrote: There can't be too many different species, Noah's Ark wasn't big enough to carry them all! What, evolution stopped with the Ark? As long as we're on that subject, it dawned on me a while ago that the trouble I have

RE: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes against the whole idea of monotheism. You can accept or not accept the monotheistic God of Judeo-Christianity as you see fit, but you can't accept it

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes against the whole idea of monotheism. You can accept or not accept the monotheistic God of

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Aug 2010, at 19:35, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes against the whole idea of monotheism. You can accept

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Aug 3, 2010, at 4:00 PM, William T Goodall wrote: On 3 Aug 2010, at 19:35, Bruce Bostwick wrote: On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Dave Land wrote: The idea that Christianity or Judaism believe that the devil is a separate but (thankfully, not quite) equal power to God is nonsense: it goes

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/08/2010, at 3:48 AM, Dave Land wrote: Then again, there's the Jewish tradition that The Satan isn't an embodiment of pure evil or some bad dude in red pajamas with a goatee and a pitchfork, but is, in fact, the prosecuting angel, whose role is to find out whether believers are truly

Re: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dave Land
On Aug 3, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 04/08/2010, at 3:48 AM, Dave Land wrote: Then again, there's the Jewish tradition that The Satan isn't an embodiment of pure evil or some bad dude in red pajamas with a goatee and a pitchfork, but is, in fact, the prosecuting angel, whose

RE: Creationism [was: First Pluto is not a planet, and now . . . .]

2010-08-03 Thread Dan Minette
So God needs to use entrapment? Heh. I just report 'em. I don't make 'em up. This is the sort of thing that makes me a very liberal Christian. In defense of the Jews of about 400 BCE to 200 BCE their theology was actually a bit different than the characterization of it by folks who haven't