Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-15 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: sigh Clearly I must bow to those with superior knowledge in this field - but I still don't have to like the kinked logic of a supposedly rational _Mathematics_. ;P Mathematics is not about numbers, it's about abstract things that can be manipulated using known rules.

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-15 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 12:50 AM 12/15/02 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But sets can become much more weirder than irrational numbers Indeed, they can _be_ irrational numbers . . . unless you think that's too unkind a cut. --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-15 Thread Julia Thompson
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 12:50 AM 12/15/02 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But sets can become much more weirder than irrational numbers Indeed, they can _be_ irrational numbers . . . unless you think that's too unkind a cut. What kind of cut would that be? :) Julia

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-15 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 04:26 PM 12/15/02 -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 12:50 AM 12/15/02 +, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But sets can become much more weirder than irrational numbers Indeed, they can _be_ irrational numbers . . . unless you think that's too unkind a cut. What kind

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-14 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Bryon Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but if multiplying two negative numbers is _supposed_ to make a positive, the square root of a negative number 'should not be' possible. That's why they're called imaginary numbers! Imaginary or not, though,

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-11 Thread Bryon Daly
Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speak ;D ), but if multiplying two negative numbers is _supposed_ to make a positive, the square root of a negative number 'should not be' possible. That's why they're called imaginary numbers! Imaginary or not, though, they're quite useful... It's

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-10 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [I wrote:] My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, but I never understood why one should propose an imaginary number like the square root of -2 (IIRC the term correctly), as - to me - math is supposed to describe

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-06 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, but I never understood why one should propose an imaginary number like the square root of -2 (IIRC the term correctly), as - to me - math is supposed to describe the real world, not an impossible one. It makes me very sad

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-06 Thread Robert J. Chassell
My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, but I never understood why one should propose an imaginary number like the square root of -2 (IIRC the term correctly), as - to me - math is supposed to describe the real world, not an impossible one. You are being confused by the

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-06 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah Harrell wrote: My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, but I never understood why one should propose an imaginary number like the square root of -2 (IIRC the term correctly), as - to me - math is supposed to describe the

[ir]rational answer question

2002-12-05 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
Logic question: if an answer to a question relies on changing a principal axiom of the Universe, is the answer then irrational (or otherwise invalid)? -j- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-05 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Miller, Jeffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logic question: if an answer to a question relies on changing a principal axiom of the Universe, is the answer then irrational (or otherwise invalid)? My grasp of formal logic is tentative at best, but I never understood why one should propose an

Re: [ir]rational answer question

2002-12-05 Thread Erik Reuter
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 12:56:14AM -0600, The Fool wrote: And yet most fractals including the mandelbrot set and electricity, rely on the 'square root of -1', in fact i is very necessary for electrical engineers. No, it is not necessary. But it is often expedient. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL