Dan wrote:
Well, McClellan was the first one to come to mind to me.
McClellen was not a political appointment. He may have remained in his
position too long due to political considerations, but he was a West Point
graduate, was successful early in the war and was recommended by Winfield
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McClellen was not a political appointment. He may have remained in his
position too long due to political considerations, but he was a West Point
graduate, was successful early in the war and was recommended by Winfield
Scott. Furthermore, his army was
PAT wrote:
McClellan was a very good logistics man IMO. What he wasn't was a
strategist. Or any sort of tactician. That is, he would have made an
excellent peacetime general or behind-the-lines support leader.
Exactly.
Unfortunately, he was thrust into a position that played into his
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I disagree. Some 13,000 Americans died in the Mexican-American conflict
and many of the best generals in the Civil War cut their teeth in that
conflict, Lee, Grant and Jackson among them.
PAT wrote:
And every last one of them except Grant were whistling Dixie.
pedantic
I would include George Thomas, John Reynolds with Grant.
/pedantic
I wonder if the Southern culture of warlike honor encouraged them
Yes.
and the Northern culture somehow discouraged them?
More by way
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Dan wrote:
I'm not interested
On 6/20/06, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charlie wrote:
Nick wrote:
A little voice in my head was pointing that out when I posted it.
Still, I take it as encouraging that the attempted change in China
never yielded to violence. That image of the man blocking the tank is
a
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On this general subject... a while back, in the context of options
for Iraq other than war, I offered examples of non-violent regime
changes, with some on the list arguing that they are rare. I
recently came across a compilation
On 6/19/06, jdiebremse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A good post.
Thanks... and I'm glad to see you back. I have to say that the experience
of watching you travel around the world gave you a lot more dimensions than
I used to see in you. So to speak, anyway. Somebody is going to make a
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Welcome back John.
I'm also not sure that I agree
On 20/06/2006, at 7:49 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:
isn't 1989-1990 an awfully arbitrary data set? Oh and, the
revolution failed for 1.2 billion of those people.
A little voice in my head was pointing that out when I posted it.
Still, I
take it as encouraging that the attempted change in
Charlie wrote:
Nick wrote:
A little voice in my head was pointing that out when I posted it.
Still, I take it as encouraging that the attempted change in China
never yielded to violence. That image of the man blocking the tank is
a symbol of hope, not despair, isn't it?
I seem to
Dan wrote:
I'm not interested in the Civil War in the way my brother-in-law is.
He's interested in the battles, what-if situations in those battles, and
so
forth. I'm more interested in the politics of the Civil War. For
example, I'm amazed by Lincoln's understanding of the inherent
On this general subject... a while back, in the context of options for Iraq
other than war, I offered examples of non-violent regime changes, with some
on the list arguing that they are rare. I recently came across a
compilation of recent non-violent regime changes, which led me to realize
that
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