Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Yeah, bwana, an whail we remane poor and unpoluising, we coze no poblema to the envrinoment. Just to be clear: you speak (or at least write) English well. That's natural: English is almost a second language, professionally it sometimes becomes the first language,

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2008, at 1:48 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Seriously, if we want to save the planet, domestic solar power should be banned! People should live and work in the smallest possible area, and it means packing families in huge buildings. Solar

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 4/27/2008 6:37:07 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the planet by composting themselves . . . ;) . . . ronn! :)

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Ronn! wrote: The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white, American environmentalists offering to stop polluting and green the planet by composting themselves . . . ;) The message I'm getting is that you think environmentalists are inherently racist, but that seems to

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Wayne Eddy
- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:14 AM Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming Ronn! wrote: The point, however, is that you seldom hear of any rich, white

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
Wayne wrote: Seems to me, he is just pointing out the irony in the fact that the Green Movement is a product of affluence which is a product of technology. And more specifically that the Green movement is antipathetic to the technology that has given them the time and resources to become

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread John Garcia
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 8:39 PM, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wayne wrote: Seems to me, he is just pointing out the irony in the fact that the Green Movement is a product of affluence which is a product of technology. And more specifically that the Green movement is

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread Doug Pensinger
John Garcia wrote: I suspect that people who are caught up in the daily struggle of survival, getting shelter, water, some grains to eat aren't placing the same weight on environmental issues as we in the affluent countries are. Shelter, water and food _are_ environmental issues aren't

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Original Message: - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:29:54 -0800 To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming It's true that if the Chinese continue to adopt modern technology without heeding environmental concerns

Re: Adressing Global Warming---L4

2008-04-27 Thread Russell Chapman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote lots of interesting stuff which raised a couple of quick questions for me: 1. Why the time limit on nuclear energy? Even if every capable nation ramped up plant construction enormously (and I hope they do), there is enough uranium in Australia alone to supply their

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: Yeah. The point of solar hot water is it's so cheap, and pays for itself very quickly (3 - 5 years) if it's installed in a new house. So while it'll never amount to a huge percentage, it's still an inexpensive way of saving a significant amount of energy. So, like

RE: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Pat Mathews
Great idea! I'm looking forward to meeting your extended family in your new tenement apartment. Especially the little kids. http://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Adressing Global Warming Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 14:36:53 +

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/04/2008, at 12:36 AM, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Yeah. The point of solar hot water is it's so cheap, and pays for itself very quickly (3 - 5 years) if it's installed in a new house. So while it'll never amount to a huge percentage, it's still an

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: Seriously, if we want to save the planet, domestic solar power should be banned! People should live and work in the smallest possible area, and it means packing families in huge buildings. Solar hot water, not solar electric. Black pipes in a glass cabinet on the roof.

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:48 AM Sunday 4/27/2008, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Charlie Bell wrote: Seriously, if we want to save the planet, domestic solar power should be banned! People should live and work in the smallest possible area, and it means packing families in huge buildings. Solar

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Which brings us righ back to the dirty little secret of the environmental movement: that the real underlying problem is that there are by about an order of magnitude just too darn many people already, particularly darker-complected ones with no money who don't speak

Re: Adressing Global Warming

2008-04-27 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 07:39 PM Sunday 4/27/2008, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Ronn! Blankenship wrote: Which brings us righ back to the dirty little secret of the environmental movement: that the real underlying problem is that there are by about an order of magnitude just too darn many people

Re: Adressing Global Warming---L4

2008-04-26 Thread Charlie Bell
On 27/04/2008, at 9:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As promised, I looked into at what I think is the most expeditious plan to handle global warming. Actually, I was asking if you could look at the weaknesses of the powersat idea and offer possible solutions - it's often revealing to