Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-09-01 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk
Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Pensinger So the war on drugs is an attempt to stamp out human inclination by force. Why don't we spend the huge amounts of money we now waste trying to fight our inclinations on fi

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-21 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To bring it back to the conversation at hand, it's > the difference between > denying that something like rape is related to > legitimate needs and denying > any opportunity to meet those needs. Society can > pretend that such crimes > have no basis w

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-20 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 06:51 AM 8/20/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship ... > (1) So if "[I] put words in [your] head by saying that [their legitimate > needs] are denied," by "denial of legitimate needs" do you me

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-20 Thread Doug Pensinger
Both Nick and Dan wrote interesting replies to my last post in this subject, but I haven't had the time or energy to respond properly and may not for several days as I'm headed out of town soon. Just wanted to let you know that I'm not ignoring your posts... Doug Bed, very soon... ___

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-20 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship ... > (1) So if "[I] put words in [your] head by saying that [their legitimate > needs] are denied," by "denial of legitimate needs" do you mean > self-denial > by the person with the nee

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 01:09 PM 8/19/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship > So let's talk openly about them here. What are those legitimate needs > which you believe are denied, and how do you think those needs > sho

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Ronn!Blankenship > So let's talk openly about them here. What are those legitimate needs > which you believe are denied, and how do you think those needs > should be met? I think I already gave a number

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 07:28 AM 8/19/03 -0700, Nick Arnett wrote: > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... > When are we going to wake up and realize that people want to get > high? From the mild stimulus of caffeine, the outwardly > innocuousnes

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Erik Reuter
Julia wrote: > Hm. I thought that Quakerism was a sect of Christianity. How do you > criminalize a set and *not* criminalize a subset of that set? :) Good point. Better to be safe than sorry. Let's criminalize Quakerism as well. -- "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.erikreute

RE: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... > When are we going to wake up and realize that people want to get > high? From the mild stimulus of caffeine, the outwardly > innocuousness of nicotine and the destructiveness of alco

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-19 Thread Julia Thompson
Dan Minette wrote: > > My positiojn is not really supportive of the war on drugs; there are plenty > of problems with it. As I stated before, drawing the line after instead of > before grass seems very reasonable. But, I do think that the position that > legalizing the sale of all addictive dru

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 09:42 PM 8/18/03 -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Danger

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:42 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) > Dan Minette wrote: > > - Original Message

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Dan Minette wrote: - Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From:

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: "Doug Pensinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States) > Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: > >> From: Doug

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The wrongness of our approach to this problem seems so blatantly obvious to me that I have to be suspicious of the real motives behind drug prohibitions. Doug According to your theory, which would the

Re: Drugs (was Most Dangerous States)

2003-08-18 Thread Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo
From: Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ronn!Blankenship wrote: The wrongness of our approach to this problem seems so blatantly obvious to me that I have to be suspicious of the real motives behind drug prohibitions. Doug According to your theory, which would these be? JJ _