Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-13 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert J. Chassell wrote: > Perhaps someone on this list who lives in Australia can confirm or > deny the claim of my nephew, who lives in Sydney: that already it is > illegal in Australia to use a TiVo or home built PVR to skip > commercials. Rather than think of a commercial as an invitation

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-04 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
I saw the following article in one of the tech newsletters I get, and while I have no other knowledge of the product they are discussing, the abstract makes it sound like it might be of relevance to this thread: <> -- Ronn! :)

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-04 Thread Robert J. Chassell
>Besides, if that happened, I've just build my own PVR (heck, TiVo is >running a Linux distro, so its all open source at the root anyways..) But of course in that case you'd be a criminal, ..; Perhaps someone on this list who lives in Australia can confirm or deny the claim of my nep

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-04 Thread Horn, John
> From: CJ Kucera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > They claim that actual customer data is separated out from the > aggregate statistics they use for that kind of reporting. > According to a buddy who has a Tivo, this explained clearly in the Tivo privacy policy. It has also been confirmed by inde

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-04 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 02:19 AM 2/4/2004, you wrote: So are there any digital video recorders that don't require being hooked up to the phone and a subscription? Seems like someone would be making a killing on that kind of thing. Oh, and if you've got satelite TV, you're hooked up to the phone too. Doug Except, i

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
So are there any digital video recorders that don't require being hooked up to the phone and a subscription? Seems like someone would be making a killing on that kind of thing. Oh, and if you've got satelite TV, you're hooked up to the phone too. Doug __

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread Bryon Daly
From: "Miller, Jeffrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Daly > > I guess the real crux of the issue for me is that I don't > think they have > any business gathering that information in the first place; it is not > necessary for them to do so, and they don't get i

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Fool > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 04:11 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: Re: TiVo & privacy > > > From: Miller, Jeffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread The Fool
From: Miller, Jeffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Daly > Plus, there's my horror scenario: > TV broadcast and cable networks use this behavior data to > prove that - > *gasp* - viewers are skipping over commercials! Why, that's > *THEFT*. > (Don't laug

RE: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryon Daly > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 02:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: TiVo & privacy > > > I guess the real crux of the issue for me is

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread Bryon Daly
From: CJ Kucera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 03:02:11PM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: > So TiVo's report "home" not just what you're watching on a second-by-second > basis, but when you're rewinding/reviewing things? WTF? I don't have a > TiVo: Do they tell you up front when you buy/in

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread CJ Kucera
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 03:02:11PM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: > So TiVo's report "home" not just what you're watching on a second-by-second > basis, but when you're rewinding/reviewing things? WTF? I don't have a > TiVo: Do they tell you up front when you buy/install one that they'll be > monito

Re: TiVo & privacy

2004-02-03 Thread The Fool
> From: Bryon Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/ptech/02/03/television.tivo.reut/index.html > > Headline: "TiVo: Jackson stunt most replayed moment ever" > > I'm just gonna quote the relevant parts: > > -- > TiVo said that particular halftime stunt was th