Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^) That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about half-way before I gave up. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL zwil...@zwilnik.com Linux User #333216 I don't want to achieve immortality

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-18 Thread Doug Pensinger
Kevin wrote: I wrote: Consider Phlebas first, right Charlie? 8^) That was the first (and so far only) Banks book I have tried. I got about half-way before I gave up. Hey, to each his own. CP is one of my favorite books, period, but if we all liked the same stuff the world would be

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-17 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I'm in the middle of The Bridge by Banks. Just finished The Algebraist and Matter by the same with the M. I really really liked Matter. It has I think supplanted Excession as my favorite Banks. The Algebraist was real

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-17 Thread Doug Pensinger
Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I'm in the middle of The Bridge by Banks. Just finished The Algebraist and Matter by the same with the M. I really really liked Matter. It has I think supplanted Excession as my favorite

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-17 Thread Kevin B. O'Brien
Doug Pensinger wrote: Mauro Diotallevi wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Rceebergerrceeber...@comcast.net mailto:rceeber...@comcast.net wrote: I'm in the middle of The Bridge by Banks. Just finished The Algebraist and Matter by the same with the M. I really really

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-16 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 10:37 AM Tuesday 7/14/2009, Nick Arnett wrote: I've been reading so much lately... been thinking it's time to post some quick thoughts about recent readings and ask what others are reading, too. I just started The Caryatids by Bruce Sterling. Somewhat over the top in terms of apocalyptic

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-15 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:37 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I've been reading so much lately... been thinking it's time to post some quick thoughts about recent readings and ask what others are reading, too. Currently up, the latest installment of _The Year's Best SF_ edited by Garner Dozois. --

Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-14 Thread Nick Arnett
I've been reading so much lately... been thinking it's time to post some quick thoughts about recent readings and ask what others are reading, too. I just started The Caryatids by Bruce Sterling. Somewhat over the top in terms of apocalyptic technology, but I can't help liking the fact that it is

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-14 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Anathem struck me as somewhat desperate in its invention of language, but it all made sense in the end. I'm not sure the book deserved to be so long, but on the other hand, I was never particularly tempted to give up on it. Stephenson

Re: Whatcha reading? (was Re: In despair for the state of SF)

2009-07-14 Thread Rceeberger
On 7/14/2009 10:37:23 AM, Nick Arnett (nick.arn...@gmail.com) wrote: I've been reading so much lately... been thinking it's time to post some quick thoughts about recent readings and ask what others are reading, too. I just started The Caryatids by Bruce Sterling. Somewhat over the top in

RE: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Dan M wrote: Film, definitely. But, I'd argue that graphic novels combine literature and art. Good art can be part of storytelling. For example, Guernica by Picasso certainly tells a story. (...) Nazi thug to Picasso: You did this? Picasso to nazi thug: No, you did this Alberto

RE: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-12 Thread Dan M
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Danny O'Dare Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:05 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: In despair for the state of SF There is so much good science

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-12 Thread Max Battcher
Dan M wrote: There is so much good science fiction - not to mention 'slipstream', 'New Weird', etc - out there (old and new) why waste your time reading the crap? One thing I've noticed, however, is that the shelf space for what I, and from what I read most folks on Brin-L consider good sci-fi

RE: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-12 Thread Dan M
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Max Battcher One thing I've noticed, however, is that the shelf space for what I, and from what I read most folks on Brin-L consider good sci-fi continues to shrink, being

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-11 Thread Damon Agretto
I'm sorry you read this turkey, but the KJA is a hack and has been for years... Damon. On Jul 4, 2009 4:19 AM, Warren Ockrassa war...@nightwares.com wrote: A week or so back I finished _Hidden Empire_, the first book in Kevin J. Anderson's Saga of Seven Suns:

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-11 Thread Danny O'Dare
There is so much good science fiction - not to mention 'slipstream', 'New Weird', etc - out there (old and new) why waste your time reading the crap? DANNY 2009/7/5 Doug Pensinger brig...@zo.com xponent Matter Maru rob Or Anathem, eh? Doug

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-07 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jul 6, 2009, at 8:48 PM, John Williams wrote: I just checked the reviews on the book you mentioned, and the bad reviews talk about many of the same problems that you mentioned. Yes, they do -- but unfortch, I didn't have net access at the time I was considering. I was thinking of the

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-06 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Jul 4, 2009, at 5:48 PM, xponentrob wrote: Uh..why aren't you reading something good? Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. :\ All I can say is I didn't know better at the time... -- Warren Ockrassa | @waxis Blog | http://indigestible.nightwares.com/ Books |

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-06 Thread John Williams
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 4:43 PM, Warren Ockrassawar...@nightwares.com wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 5:48 PM, xponentrob wrote: Uh..why aren't you reading something good? Well, yeah, that was kinda the point. :\ All I can say is I didn't know better at the time... If I have no idea whether I

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-05 Thread Jim Sharkey
From: Warren Ockrassa [war...@nightwares.com] Kevin J. Anderson See, I spotted your problem right away, Warren. :-p Jim ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-04 Thread xponentrob
- Original Message - From: Warren Ockrassa war...@nightwares.com To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 3:19 AM Subject: In despair for the state of SF A week or so back I finished _Hidden Empire_, the first book in Kevin J.

Re: In despair for the state of SF

2009-07-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
xponent Matter Maru rob Or Anathem, eh? Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com