Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-05 Thread William T Goodall
On 5 Sep 2006, at 5:52AM, Charlie Bell wrote: On 04/09/2006, at 8:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote: 3) A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. Now, #4 is consistent with Tom Cruise and Scientology, but it is also consistent with you and atheism.

RE: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-04 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hobby Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:53 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument Dan Minette wrote: ... Again, per my last email

Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-04 Thread William T Goodall
(Oops, I had digital signing on when I first sent this.) On 4 Sep 2006, at 4:08PM, Dan Minette wrote: Sure it is. Sociology of religion does included discussions of belief systems, as well as behavior. In a sense, while the beliefs are non-empirical...the written and stated beliefs are

RE: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-04 Thread Dan Minette
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:52 AM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument It is not part of the necessary definition

Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-04 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 6:05PM, Dan Minette wrote: One of the ways that we differ is that I believe that definitions of words are set by those that use the language...while you believe that words mean what William Goodall want them to mean and that everyone else is wrong if they differ with

Word games (was Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument)

2006-09-04 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Sep 2006, at 6:05PM, Dan Minette wrote: Just to check, I found a common source for definitions I haven't used before, and now quote it's definition of religion: Answers.com And I quote: quote re·li·gion (rĭ-lĭj'ən) n. 1a) Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers

Re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-04 Thread Charlie Bell
On 04/09/2006, at 8:05 PM, Dan Minette wrote: 3) A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader. Now, #4 is consistent with Tom Cruise and Scientology, but it is also consistent with you and atheism. And number 3 is also consistent with

re: Religious freedom, but not that stupid argument

2006-09-03 Thread David Hobby
Dan Minette wrote: ... Again, per my last email absolute rubbish. Scientology is a creed, a UFO cult set up to milk the members of cash. It is a business, not a religion. If I could step in here, I think this is part of William's point. From the outside, it's hard to tell one group that