RE: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Robert Seeberger [mailto:rceeberger@;houston.rr.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2002 3:06 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Correcting a slight injustice > I have been given to know, by good authority, that this version of > history is inaccurat

Re: [website link] Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies

2002-11-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
The Fool wrote: > >What kind of crack are you smoking? > Konqueror Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > AFAIK, there was no approval from the list to kick him off, even though it > has been stated repeatedly over the years that such approval is necessary. On whose auth

RE: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Nick Arnett [mailto:narnett@;mccmedia.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2002 13:53 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Correcting a slight injustice > > AFAIK, there was no approval from the list to kick him off, even > > though it has been stat

RE: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Correcting a slight injustice Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:25:16 +0100 > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Nick Arnett [mailto:narnett@;mccmedia.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2002 13:53 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Correcting a slight i

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jon Gabriel wrote: > >> RTFA. > > Uncalled for. Please be civil. > > Jon "Remember IAAMOAC" Gabriel > Maybe we could reach a compromise? Something like IAAFMOAFC? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > >> RTFA. > > > > Uncalled for. Please be civil. > > > > Jon "Remember IAAMOAC" Gabriel > > > Maybe we could reach a compromise? Something like > IAAFMOAFC? Alberto, thank you for reminding me that it's a bad idea for me to drink my morning t

Re: Imagine His Surprise...

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: Julia Thompson [mailto:julia@;zurg.net] > > Verzonden: dinsdag 12 november 2002 19:40 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: Re: Imagine His Surprise... > > > I think the best ridiculous superhero power I've heard of (and

Re: japanimation

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: Hector Sosa [mailto:fastalanasa@;wheelmud.org] > > Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2002 2:06 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: Re: japanimation > > > Has anybody seen the new UltraMan? It airs before I get home from

Irony (was RE: Correcting a slight injustice)

2002-11-13 Thread Nick Arnett
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:brin-l-bounces@;mccmedia.com]On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... > > > AFAIK, there was no approval from the list to kick him off, even > > > though it has been stated repeatedly over the years that such > > > approval is necessary.

RE: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:jonnrobin@;hotmail.com] > Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2002 16:11 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: Correcting a slight injustice > >RTFA. > > Uncalled for. Please be civil. Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA"

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/13/2002 9:11:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? >> For a poker player, it's "Raise the ante." No idea what it means here. William Taylor I fold. __

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > In a message dated 11/13/2002 9:11:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? >> > > For a poker player, it's "Raise the ante." > > No idea what it means here. > > William

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:09:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? RTFM usually means "Read The Fucking Manual" so in this context, where Nick recently mentioned his archive of Brin-L is complete, it would seem to mean, "Read The Fucki

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Matt Grimaldi
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > In a message dated 11/13/2002 9:11:11 AM US Mountain Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > << Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? >> > > > > For a poker player, it's "Raise the ante." > > > > No idea what it means he

Re: Imagine His Surprise...

2002-11-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/13/2002 8:59:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What would you want instead of the Teletubbies song? >> Tenser said the tensor. Tenser said the tensor. Tension apprehension and dissension have begun. William Taylor - A kill or

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Jon Gabriel wrote: > > >From: Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Correcting a slight injustice > >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:42:17 -0500 > > > >On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:09:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Jon, out

Re: Imagine his surprise

2002-11-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/13/2002 10:54:55 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Ah, another fan of the brilliant Alfred Bester! >> I have hope that there will be a one line mention of Alfred Bester in Dr. Brin's next work on the alien snatched high school students. Something

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 12:42 13-11-2002 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? RTFM usually means "Read The Fucking Manual" so in this context, where Nick recently mentioned his archive of Brin-L is complete, it would seem to mean, "Read The Fucking Archive". Ladie

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread K. Feete
Erik Reute wrote: >RTFM usually means "Read The Fucking Manual" There's one of those? Why haven't I got a copy? >it would seem >to mean, "Read The Fucking Archive". This, on the other hand, I don't even want to *see* Kat Feete - Do not needlessly endanger your lives until I giv

An interesting POV...

2002-11-13 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Is Foggy Bottom losing faith in Europe? http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y20312172 By Martin Walker UPI Chief International Correspondent WASHINGTON, Nov. 13 (UPI) -- "You want to know what I really think of the Europeans?" asked the senior State Department official. "I think they have been wrong on

Re: An interesting POV...

2002-11-13 Thread Matt Grimaldi
"Adam C. Lipscomb" wrote: > > Is Foggy Bottom losing faith in Europe? > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y20312172 > Beware, this article tries to skirt the edge between journalism and propaganda, rather poorly, imho. > By Martin Walker > UPI Chief International Correspondent > > WASHINGTON, N

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "J. van Baardwijk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Correcting a slight injustice Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:19:29 +0100 At 12:42 13-11-2002 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: > Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? RTFM usual

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 18:21 13-11-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: > Jon, out of curiosity, what do you think "RTFA" stands for? RTFM usually means "Read The Fucking Manual" so in this context, where Nick recently mentioned his archive of Brin-L is complete, it would seem to mean, "Read The Fucking Archive". Ladie

Re: Day the world turned on Iraq

2002-11-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Day the world turned on Iraq Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 15:11:42 -0500 At 01:17 PM 11/9/2002 -0600 Julia Thompson wrote: >> Personally, I thought it was Colin Powell who is the master. Bush is >>

when ISP's / portals use Java spyware applets

2002-11-13 Thread The Fool
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=8d76ec03.020405 1524.793e809b%40posting.google.com&rnum=17&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dredsheriff%2 6start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D8d76ec03.0204051524.79 3e809b%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D17 Long link. The BBC is using th

Re: when ISP's / portals use Java spyware applets

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
The Fool wrote: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=8d76ec03.020405 > 1524.793e809b%40posting.google.com&rnum=17&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dredsheriff%2 > 6start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D8d76ec03.0204051524.79 > 3e809b%2540posting.google.com%26rnum%3D17 > >

Re: when ISP's / portals use Java spyware applets

2002-11-13 Thread The Fool
> From: The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=8d76ec03.020405 > 1524.793e809b%40posting.google.com&rnum=17&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dredsheriff%2 > 6start%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D8d76ec03.0204051524.79 > 3e809b%2540posting.google

Rejected titles for Dr. Brin's next work.

2002-11-13 Thread Medievalbk
>From the webpage FAQ: 4. You say you like to keep several projects going at once. What's on the back burner? Also in the works, a "Heinleinian" book, a fun story in the tradition of Tunnel in the Sky in which aliens kidnap 3,000 kids from a Californian high school. So far, it's a real blast.

Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
I followed this thread to present, so I borrowed from a couple of posts. --- "John D. Giorgis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, Natural Family Planning is nearly as effective > as the pill, and > you'll have about a 75% chance of being able to have > sex on your wedding > night so there is a

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Grimaldi wrote: > > > >>> Any chance of that? I think the anti-military > >>> meme is so strong that he would have no votes. > > > > You either have bad information or the wrong > meme-set, > > Alberto. A military take-over of the

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Jim Sharkey
K. Feete wrote: > >it would seem > >to mean, "Read The Fucking Archive". > > This, on the other hand, I don't even want to *see* > What, you're not interested in hot, sci-fi nerd porn? ;) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most per

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 11/13/2002 6:52:20 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hot, sci-fi nerd porn? >> The six armed nude woman has a built in breast pocket protector? William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/bri

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Russell Chapman
Deborah Harrell wrote: Had either Colin Powell or John McCain been the Republican candidate for President in the last election, I would have voted for him; being ex-military makes a person more likely to understand what it means to commit to a war (and less likely to run headlong into one). But

Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you heard of that new contraceptive patch? I > saw a commercial for > it, but I can't remember the name. I haven't seen > any studies about effectiveness or side effects. Alora. A Medline search gave 3 hits. One has no abstract. Another is actuall

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Russell Chapman
Deborah Harrell wrote: In the single-check group, there was a total of 13 unintended pregnancies at the end of the first 12 cycles of study participation, giving an unintended pregnancy rate of 8.5% (SE 2.52%), a drop-out rate for difficulties or dissatisfaction of 3.0% (SE 1.76%) and a lost-to-f

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Reuter
Thanks for the information. I think Ortho Evra was the name they used on the TV commercial I saw. The main point of the commercial seemed to be all the places you could stick the patch (basically anywhere). On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 06:19:14PM -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: > The Dec 2001 article abs

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Russell Chapman wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >Had either Colin Powell or John McCain been the > >Republican candidate for President in the last > >election, I would have voted for him; being > >ex-military makes a person more likely to understand > >what it means to commit to a war (and

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Erik Reuter
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 08:28:05PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: > Do you have a cite for that statistic? I find it hard to believe. I > think the percentage of the population of the US that knew who Colin > Powell was was greater than 50%. But I could be wrong. I agree. He was all over the TV

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Russell Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >Had either Colin Powell or John McCain been the > >Republican candidate for President in the last > >election, I would have voted for him; being > >ex-military makes a person more likely to > understand > >what it means t

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Russell Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >In the single-check group, there was a total > >of 13 unintended pregnancies at the end of the > first > >12 cycles of study participation, giving an > unintended > >pregnancy rate of 8.5% (SE 2.52%), a drop-out rate > fo

Re: Irony (was RE: Correcting a slight injustice)

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Nick Arnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Passive voice does not identify the > origin of the statement, > so you were failing to identify the authority behind > your own argument, even > as you asked others to identify the "authorities" > behind the thing with... Speaking strictly for myself

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Russell Chapman wrote: > > Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >In the single-check group, there was a total > >of 13 unintended pregnancies at the end of the first > >12 cycles of study participation, giving an unintended > >pregnancy rate of 8.5% (SE 2.52%), a drop-out rate for > >difficulties or dissat

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Steve Sloan II
Russell Chapman wrote: > Hell, half the population of the USA hadn't even heard of > Colin Powell pre 9/11. Colin Powell was about as well-known as any public figure, from his service as head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff during the Gulf War. There were three big names that were constantly on the

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Russell Chapman
Julia Thompson questioned: Hell, half the population of the USA hadn't even heard of Colin Powell pre 9/11. Do you have a cite for that statistic? I find it hard to believe. I think the percentage of the population of the US that knew who Colin Powell was was greater than 50%. But I could b

depleted uranium

2002-11-13 Thread The Fool
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Julia Thompson
Russell Chapman wrote: > > Julia Thompson questioned: > > >>Hell, half the population of the USA hadn't even heard of > >>Colin Powell pre 9/11. > >> > > > >Do you have a cite for that statistic? I find it hard to believe. I > >think the percentage of the population of the US that knew who Coli

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Doug
Russell Chapman wrote: And another only vaguely related question - regarding his colour - would coming from a Jamaican family be seen as the same as coming from, say, a Louisana African American family? I have no idea how West Indian blacks are seen in the US. I don't think it would make any

Re: Day the world turned on Iraq

2002-11-13 Thread Doug
Jon Gabriel wrote: Are the results good? Yes. Now _that's_ eminently debatable. Doug Not terse, and now not one line... 8^) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: depleted uranium

2002-11-13 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- The Fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/95178_du12.shtml This is just one more article that brings to mind the Kingston Trio's 'Merry Minuet,' lyrics at: http://ntl.matrix.com.br/pfilho/html/lyrics/m/merry_minuet.txt "But we can be tranquil and thankful an

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Russell Chapman
Doug answered: And another only vaguely related question - regarding his colour - would coming from a Jamaican family be seen as the same as coming from, say, a Louisana African American family? I have no idea how West Indian blacks are seen in the US. I don't think it would make any differe

Re: Colin Powell President

2002-11-13 Thread Russell Chapman
Deborah Harrell wrote: his not running for the presidency was a topic of conversation at the office - but I don't have any numbers to back that up! :) That would indicate I had entirely the wrong idea... Anytime someone NOT running for office is raised, their profile has reached a critical m

Re: Day the world turned on Iraq

2002-11-13 Thread Jon Gabriel
From: Doug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Day the world turned on Iraq Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:30:41 -0800 Jon Gabriel wrote: Are the results good? Yes. Now _that's_ eminently debatable. Doug I wasn't clear, sorry. I was referring to

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 09:25 AM 11/13/02, Julia Thompson wrote: Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > Jon Gabriel wrote: > > > >> RTFA. > > > > Uncalled for. Please be civil. > > > > Jon "Remember IAAMOAC" Gabriel > > > Maybe we could reach a compromise? Something like > IAAFMOAFC? Alberto, thank you for reminding me that

Re: Imagine His Surprise...

2002-11-13 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:19 AM 11/13/02, William Taylor wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2002 8:59:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << What would you want instead of the Teletubbies song? >> Tenser said the tensor. The lamp or the mathematical entity? --Ronn! :) I always knew that I

Re: Correcting a slight injustice

2002-11-13 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 11:32 AM 11/13/02, Julia Thompson wrote: William Taylor wrote: > > > > I fold. I spindle. Isn't anyone going to mutilate? --Ronn! :) I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon. I never dreamed that I would see the last. --Dr. Jerry Pournelle _

Re: Contraception (Was: science Vs religion)

2002-11-13 Thread Ronn Blankenship
At 07:36 PM 11/13/02, Deborah Harrell wrote: For poor/developing nations, where the ability to use a more complex method (ovulation or symptothermal) is more limited, a simple method that requires a woman to have regular cycle of 26-32 days and abstain from sex for 11 days of her cycle is availa

You Are a Suspect

2002-11-13 Thread The Fool
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/14/opinion/14SAFI.html?ex=1037854800&en=377 8829e1bec3dc2&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE You Are a Suspect By WILLIAM SAFIRE WASHINGTON — If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before passage, here is what will happen to you: Every purchase you make with a credit card,