Re: our steep slide

2004-12-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 02:05:07AM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: One question first to see if I'm on the right page: if SS was privatized and hooked into the stock market, that would mean that my SS tax money would go into an account in my name and be invested (somehow) in the market, and that the

Re: Earthsea in Clorox by Ursula K. Le Guin

2004-12-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:58:35PM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: I was disappointed I missed the Earthsea movie, but not so much, anymore: I turned it off after 10 minutes (having already reached for the remote twice during those minutes and stopped, thinking, give it a few more minutes, it HAS to

RE: Julia's Tommy

2004-12-19 Thread Jim Sharkey
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Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-19 Thread Robert J. Chassell
... telling us about how Saddam wasn't that bad As of 17 Feb 2003, less than a month before the US invasion, the Bush administration had not made the argumment that a new government would help the people of Iraq free themselves from a cruel dictatorship. It made it later. It looks to me

Iraqi Attacks and Violations Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-19 Thread Robert J. Chassell
I would not describe live ammunition as sabre rattling. Hmmm ... You will gain a better understanding of history if you do. As is, the phrase is misleading. Many governments, especially those run by evil men, attempt to intimidate others by killing people. The phrase is sabre rattling, but

Re: our steep slide

2004-12-19 Thread Robert J. Chassell
IIRC, a general investment in an SP fund has outperformed most other funds over the last 10 years. Yes, over the last 10 years. But I think of my father. During his lifetime, there was one period when the stock market was down for 20 years and another when it was down for more than 10

Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-19 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 11:39:33 -0500 (EST), Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 4. Overthrow the government of and establish a major US presence in an Arab country so as to frighten the other Arab dictatorships into greater efforts into policing against enemies of

Re: our steep slide

2004-12-19 Thread Gary Denton
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 12:14:58 -0500 (EST), Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IIRC, a general investment in an SP fund has outperformed most other funds over the last 10 years. Yes, over the last 10 years. But I think of my father. During his lifetime, there was one period

Re: our steep slide

2004-12-19 Thread Erik Reuter
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:19:38PM -0600, Gary Denton wrote: SS reform is a huge and unnecessary boondoogle and payoff to the favored finacial corporations. How's that? SS isn't in trouble Wrong. SS has troubles. We have promised more in benefits than we have currently set up the SS payroll

Fringe group is dictating what we watch

2004-12-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Activists Dominate Content Complaints http://tinyurl.com/5fhoy In an appearance before Congress in February, when the controversy over Janet Jacksons Super Bowl moment was at its height, Federal Communications Commission chairman Michael Powell laid some startling statistics on U.S. senators.

Re: Acts of War Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-19 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote, I remember reading a long time ago that Saddam had quietly informed the White House before the Kuwait invasion, and taken the official silence as tacit consent. Any truth to this? According to a partial transcript at

Re: Acts of War Re: God Is With Us L3

2004-12-19 Thread maru
Ah, good ol' TOTSE. I haven't been there in a long time... But I find interesting the segment which goes: 'We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in

Re: Acts of War

2004-12-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Maru wrote: Also, I remember reading a long time ago that Saddam had quietly informed the White House before the Kuwait invasion, and taken the official silence as tacit consent. Any truth to this? Yes. Kuwait was almost _begging_ to be invaded: they stole oil from Saddam, they stole

stolen elections

2004-12-19 Thread d.brin
The below just posted at: http://www.davidbrin.blogspot.com/ Ukraine levels of electoral fraud? I am still hoping that much of the talk about election fraud in this country is exaggerated. Certainly our lifetimes have never witnessed so many dubious or outrageous twists, warpings and

RE: Julia's Tommy

2004-12-19 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Julia's Tommy Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 09:31:52 -0500 (EST) Nick wrote: Tommy, has been sick a lot and became very dehydrated. Please tell Julia we're thinking of her! And Tommy!

Re: [SPAM] RE: SF in college

2004-12-19 Thread Travis Edmunds
From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SPAM] RE: SF in college Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 20:49:13 +0900 Travis Edmunds asked George A: Next term I'm taking Major American Authors. Do you know

Re: Acts of War

2004-12-19 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saddam asked gov.us if it was ok to invade Kuwait and gov.us gave him a dubious reply. Alberto Monteiro The only evidence we have for this is Saddam's own claim. April Glaspie (the US Ambassador who supposedly gave Saddam the okay to invade)

Happy Holidays

2004-12-19 Thread Gautam Mukunda
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody. I will be on vacation and away from e-mail for a while. My best to you and your families. = Gautam Mukunda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freedom is not free http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com __ Do you

Re: Happy Holidays

2004-12-19 Thread maru
Ha! Foolish Gautam! Don't you know without your presence, Brin and Ockrossa will be free to spew their hateful anti-American lies unimpeded? But seriously, I concur. Jolly Holidays to everyone, be you celebrating Christmas, Chanukkah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, Winter-een-mas, Mithra's Day, or Emperor

Re: Happy Holidays

2004-12-19 Thread Doug Pensinger
Gautam wrote: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everybody. I will be on vacation and away from e-mail for a while. Baltimore area, I presume... My best to you and your families. Same to you Gautam, be safe. We'll keep the list warm for you. 8^) -- Doug

Re: Happy Holidays

2004-12-19 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/19/2004 8:40:41 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Emperor Norton day Ed Norton? Ah. Google says no. Thank you for letting me read about something I knew nothing of. He would have made a great friend to William Topaz McGonagall. Vilyehm

Re: Happy Holidays

2004-12-19 Thread maru
McGonagall? Any relation to Harry Potter's Professor of the same? Ah. Google says no. Thank you for letting me read of someone I probably would never have heard of. He woulda made a good companion to Emperor Norton I. ~Maru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for letting me read about something

Re: Earthsea in Clorox by Ursula K. Le Guin

2004-12-19 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Dec 19, 2004, at 6:25 AM, Erik Reuter wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2004 at 11:58:35PM -0500, Bryon Daly wrote: I was disappointed I missed the Earthsea movie, but not so much, anymore: I turned it off after 10 minutes (having already reached for the remote twice during those minutes and stopped,