RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
Dan Minette wrote From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poor George, no wonder he looks tired, tossing all night, crying over the starving Koreans kiddies etc... What I don't understand is, given that I'm pretty sure I already mentioned this to you in an earlier discussion, why you

World Government was RE: more neocons

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
Ronn!Blankenship At 08:05 AM Thursday 4/21/2005, Andrew Paul wrote: [...] I, like you I think, await a world government, where the need for national armies, and thus the need for protection agianst this sort of problem, becomes irrelevant. What kind of world government would you

Re: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Gautam Mukunda
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 21:55:50 -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote I don't think Nick intended to call you a McCarthyite It was a particular argument that I said I see as McCarthyism. It was Gautam's argument, which I'm sure doesn't represent the

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread JDG
At 01:34 PM 4/22/2005 +1000, Andrew Paul wrote: Dan, it was a rhetorical question. I know why he isn't, and frankly very glad he isn't. But thank you for the refresher. I must learn to put more umm, nuance in my typing tone. It clearly wasn't a very good rhetorical question - and it wasn't the

Re: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread JDG
--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I stand by my view still, as he'd have us believe that anyone who participates in any peace and justice demonstration in the United States is a Stalinist because a guy (Clark) behind an organization (AIC) that is related to an anti-Trotsky

RE: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
OK, I'm done arguing with you Nick I for one am in favour of changing the subject. As you said Gautam, we are just going over lots of old ground here. We agree to differ. And I retract any remarks which you found offensive. I did not intend them to be so, and I don't think Nick et al did

RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Andrew Paul
JDG wrote At 01:34 PM 4/22/2005 +1000, Andrew Paul wrote: Dan, it was a rhetorical question. I know why he isn't, and frankly very glad he isn't. But thank you for the refresher. I must learn to put more umm, nuance in my typing tone. It clearly wasn't a very good rhetorical question -

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-22 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... assuming that the Universe was closed and would collapse to a point in a Big Crunch ... a suitably set up superintelligence would be able to ... recreate the past ... thusly reincarnating us. Yes. That is how I understood Tipler, too.

Re: Brin: Bush on Oil Tax Breaks

2005-04-22 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 21 Apr 2005, John D. Giorgis wrote Bush's proposed budget would provide $6.7 billion in tax breaks for energy, but 72 percent of that would go to renewable energy sources and energy efficiency. To which Nick Arnett responded May Bush win this one! Now, what if the US

Re: Br!n: Re: more neocons

2005-04-22 Thread Robert J. Chassell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote The change in what we consider ethical has evolved over human history but the basic notion; that one should be honest and fair with all of your own kind; that you not kill or mame them; that you not cheat them and the expectation that they will behave in

Re: World Government (was RE: more neocons)

2005-04-22 Thread Robert J. Chassell
On 22 Apr 2005, Andrew Paul wrote An ideal world government. ... I doubt we will always want a Chinese President, and an Indian VP. Something like the Senate here perhaps, where each state gets the same number of members (7), and territories (smaller states) get a couple each. I

Re: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 07:58:58 -0400, JDG wrote Dan M., Gautam, and probably others have pointed out to you on multiple occasions that it is *not* _anyone_ who participates in _any_ peace and justice demonstration. It has been _specific_ people participating in _specific_ demonstrations,

A whale of a tale!

2005-04-22 Thread Travis Edmunds
http://www.space.com/astronotes/astronotes.html April 21 Beamed Into Space: Whale Songs From the deep ocean into the depths of space, the first live whale songs are to be broadcast into the cosmos on April 22 - Earth Day. Providing the service is the Deep Space Communications Network, a private

Army Clears 4 Top Officers Of Abu Ghraib Wrongdoing

2005-04-22 Thread Robert G. Seeberger
http://www.click2houston.com/news/4408753/detail.html?treets=houtml=hou_natlbreakts=Ttmi=hou_natlbreak_1_07140204222005 Officials say the Army has cleared four top officers of all allegations of wrongdoing in connection with prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, and those officers will not be

RE: Radical National Rifle Assoc.

2005-04-22 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
At 04:01 AM Wednesday 4/20/2005, God wrote: Yet another reason for strictly limiting the right to own guns to trained professionals who actually need a gun for their job: Police: 9-Year-Old Kills Mom, Self (CBS/AP)When several family members forced their way into the suburban red brick home Glenda

Re: World Government

2005-04-22 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Robert J. Chassell wrote: As far as I can see, the only kind of `UN' that has a chance of being accepted by rich countries as well as poor has three houses: population based, history based, and tax based. It will never work. I think it should be _territory_ based :-P [off-topic comment:

Re: Radical National Rifle Assoc.

2005-04-22 Thread Warren Ockrassa
On Apr 22, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: Officer Craig Clancy strolled to the appropriate facility and was lowering his trousers when his pistol fell from his waistband. When Clancy fumbled for the falling firearm, it went off, twice. One of the bullets nicked a bit of floor tile

Re: Peaceful change

2005-04-22 Thread Maru Dubshinki
On 4/22/05, Robert J. Chassell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maru Dubshinki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (Why would a non-antiquarian superintelligence bother to reincarnate us? In this reading, any superintelligence doing research that involves reincarnating anyone from the past is an

RE: Radical National Rifle Assoc.

2005-04-22 Thread Ronn!Blankenship
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Re: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 1:45 AM Subject: RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3 Dan Minette wrote From: Andrew Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poor George, no wonder he

Re: Peaceful Change L3

2005-04-22 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Robert Seeberger wrote: Think you could tone down the insult rhetoric a bit? Remember that you guys have an audience. Hear hear! Your (plural) need to put people down only serves to make you look arrogant and elitist. -- Matt ___