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On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Dave Land wrote: Of course, that's until the music hall revue style Startide Rising, featuring the classic numbers Swimming in a metal sea, Sometimes it seems like the whole universe is out to get us and My what big teeth you have (for a dolphin). Yeah, but whose idea was it to cast Bruce Willis as Creideiki and Jim Carey as Charles Dart? Kind of ruined it for me. You have to admit that Danny DeVito was a surprise hit as Takkata-Jim. *snicker* *humming Eve of the War* I'm listening to the whole thing now. Amazing how well it holds up after almost 20 years. ...almost 30... 1978, dude. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
hardware suckz
I give up. My backup HD is fully readable and writable from Linux, all auxiliary windoze programs can read it, but evil windoze itself keeps giving me the stupid and meaningless error Data error (cyclic redundancy check). I have lost too much time. Time to FR. But since I will waste precious time with (mini-)backup, F, and R, I will change the crappy HD for something more decent. Any ideas about good HDs? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint. Red rubber ball. Havin' my baby. Enough said? Nick -- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Messages: 408-904-7198 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update
From: The Fool http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html Isaac Hayes' Quitting Controversy Isaac Hayes did not quit South Park. My sources say that someone quit it for him. I can tell you that Hayes is in no position to have quit anything. Contrary to news reports, the great writer, singer and musician suffered a stroke on Jan. 17. At the time it was said that he was hospitalized and suffering from exhaustion. Its also absolutely ridiculous to think that Hayes, who loved playing Chef on South Park, would suddenly turn against the show because they were poking fun at Scientology. http://www.wwtdd.com/index.php?type=onei=757 But in late January, Hayes suffered a stroke, and members of Scientology took advantage if his infirmed condition to issue a statement claiming to be Hayes leaving the show. Today the story gains momentum as the New York Post picks it up and now names names: (Hayes is) at home recuperating and did not issue the press release which said he was quitting because the show made fun of his faith. That release was put out by fellow Scientologist Christina Kumi Kimball, a fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor 'Hayes loves 'South Park' and needs it for income. He has a new wife and a baby on the way.' http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65830.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Is it just me....
On 22 Mar 2006 at 22:02, David Hobby wrote: Andrew Crystall wrote: ... This doesn't fit in with our geo-political plans, or those of Turkey, etc. So what? It would be best for the Iraqi people, and doing what's best for them is about the only remaining excuse for the whole war in the first place. I disagree, because any Kurdish state would, quite honestly, fprce Turkey's hand. The answer which makes the most sense to me is semi-autonomous regions, with a strong centrally-controlled army and single foreign policy. That way, each of the groups gets to set many of their own domestic policys, but they are tied into oen umbrella for controlling inter- factional violence and for foreign policy. Andrew-- So Turkey has a right to oppress its Kurdish minority? If the USA cares so much about increasing freedom in the world, then it should be right there, telling Turkey that it had better let its Kurdish regions secede, or else. : ) (There are a lot of wrongs to be righted, aren't there?) Nope, but deliberately setting up something which is likely to explode into violence is wrong. It is why, for example, that while tensions in Israel were building at the time, Sharon was wrong to visit Temple Mount and spark the Intafada early. And, well, let's just say that I'm more of if you funded them 20 years ago and got them into power, clean your mess up school of thought. Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of saying countries, anyway. The regions would still struggle to control that strong centrally controlled army, wouldn't they? So I bet that this would reduce tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems. (By the way, exactly who would be paying for that army?) I'm not saying it'd be perfect, or even good. I just think it'd be better than the current situation. AndrewC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint. Red rubber ball. Havin' my baby. Enough said? Yes, considering that the complete lyrics of the latter song have been posted already. Honestly, for the ListMaster[tm], you sure aren't paying attention. Red Rubber Ball, on the other hand, reminds me of a song: I rode my bicycle past your window last night I roller skated to your door at daylight It almost seems that you're avoiding me I'm ok alone but you've got something I need Well, I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I think that we should get together And try them out ya see I've been lookin' around a while You got somethin' for me Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I ride my bike, I roller skate, don't drive no car Don't go too fast, but I go pretty far For somebody who don't drive I've been all around the world Some people say I've done all right for a girl Oh yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah, yeah-yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah-yeah I asked your mother if you were at home She said yes, but you weren't alone Oh sometimes I think that your avoiding me I'm ok alone but you got something I need well I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I think that we should get together And try them out ya see La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la I've got a brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update
The Fool wrote: But in late January, Hayes suffered a stroke, and members of Scientology took advantage if his infirmed condition to issue a statement claiming to be Hayes leaving the show. Today the story gains momentum as the New York Post picks it up and now names names: (Hayes is) at home recuperating and did not issue the press release which said he was quitting because the show made fun of his faith. That release was put out by fellow Scientologist Christina Kumi Kimball, a fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor … 'Hayes loves 'South Park' and needs it for income. He has a new wife and a baby on the way.' http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65830.htm Anyone else curious how Isaac Hayes might feel now after this week's Super Adventure Club episode? -- --Max Battcher-- http://www.worldmaker.net/ I'm gonna win, trust in me / I have come to save this world / and in the end I'll get the grrrl! --Machinae Supremacy, Hero (Promo Track) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update
In a message dated 3/24/2006 4:15:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone else curious how Isaac Hayes might feel now after this week's Super Adventure Club episode? They just write another episode where it all turns out to be a dream. Though a nude Chef in the shower is not something I'm actually looking forward to. Vilyehm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: hardware suckz
At 07:15 AM Friday 3/24/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote: I give up. My backup HD is fully readable and writable from Linux, all auxiliary windoze programs can read it, but evil windoze itself keeps giving me the stupid and meaningless error Data error (cyclic redundancy check). I have lost too much time. Time to FR. But since I will waste precious time with (mini-)backup, F, and R, I will change the crappy HD for something more decent. Any ideas about good HDs? So far so good with these two Hitachi 500GB drives I installed last fall. If you have lots of space-hogging files (or just don't want to run out of space anytime soon), I can recommend them. I've also had good luck with the Maxtor drives I've bought and installed myself (currently running a 300GB I bought last year and the 80GB one I took out of the old machine which I had been using since IIRC spring of 2001 and had most of the stuff I used in astronomy classes for those 4 years or so). OTOH, IIRC the two primary drives which came with machines and later failed (the last one within a week) were also Maxtor, FWIW . . . --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
At 04:40 PM Friday 3/24/2006, Dave Land wrote: On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint. Red rubber ball. Havin' my baby. Enough said? Yes, considering that the complete lyrics of the latter song have been posted already. Honestly, for the ListMaster[tm], you sure aren't paying attention. Red Rubber Ball, on the other hand, reminds me of a song: I rode my bicycle past your window last night I roller skated to your door at daylight It almost seems that you're avoiding me I'm ok alone but you've got something I need Well, I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I think that we should get together And try them out ya see I've been lookin' around a while You got somethin' for me Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I ride my bike, I roller skate, don't drive no car Don't go too fast, but I go pretty far For somebody who don't drive I've been all around the world Some people say I've done all right for a girl Oh yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah, yeah-yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah-yeah I asked your mother if you were at home She said yes, but you weren't alone Oh sometimes I think that your avoiding me I'm ok alone but you got something I need well I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key I think that we should get together And try them out ya see La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la La, la, la, la, la, la I've got a brand new pair of roller skates You got a brand new key As I walk along, I wonder what went wrong, With our love, a love that was so strong. And as I still walk on, I think of the things we've done Together, a-while our hearts were young. I'm a-walkin' in the rain, Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain, Wishin' you were here by me, To end this misery And I wonder-- I wah-wah-wah-wah-wonder, Why, Why, why, why, why, why she ran away, Yes, and I wonder, A-where she will stay-ay, My little runaway, Run, run, run, run, runaway. I'm a-walkin' in the rain, Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain, Wishin' you were here by me, To end this misery And I wonder-- I wah-wah-wah-wah-wonder, Why, Why, why, why, why, why she ran away, Yes, and I wonder, A-where she will stay-ay, My little runaway, Run, run, run, run, runaway. Run, run, run, run, runaway. Run, run, run, run, runaway. I Mah-Mah-Mah-Mah-Maru --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
At 09:49 AM Friday 3/24/2006, Nick Arnett wrote: I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint. Red rubber ball. I shoulda thought of this one. Havin' my baby. Already posted. If I Never Hear Your Name Again, It's All The Same To Me Maru --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Howcum this one hasn't shown up before now? Young man, there's no need to feel down. I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground. I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town There's no need to be unhappy. Young man, there's a place you can go. I said, young man, when you're short on your dough. You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find Many ways to have a good time. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. They have everything for you men to enjoy, You can hang out with all the boys ... It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal, You can do what about you feel ... Young man, are you listening to me? I said, young man, what do you want to be? I said, young man, you can make real your dreams. But you got to know this one thing! No man does it all by himself. I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf, And just go there, to the Y-M-C-A. I'm sure they can help you today. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. They have everything for you men to enjoy, You can hang out with all the boys ... It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal, You can do what about you feel ... Young man, I was once in your shoes. I said, I was down and out with the blues. I felt no man cared if I were alive. I felt the whole world was so tight ... That's when someone came up to me, And said, young man, take a walk up the street. There's a place there called the Y-M-C-A. They can start you back on your way. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A. They have everything for you men to enjoy, You can hang out with all the boys ... Y-M-C-A ... you'll find it at the Y-M-C-A. Young man, young man, there's no need to feel down. Young man, young man, get yourself off the ground. Y-M-C-A ... you'll find it at the Y-M-C-A. Young man, young man, there's no need to feel down. Young man, young man, get yourself off the ground. Y-M-C-A ... just go to the Y-M-C-A. Young man, young man, are you listening to me? Young man, young man, what do you wanna be? It Takes A Village Maru --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Is it just me....
... Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of saying countries, anyway. The regions would still struggle to control that strong centrally controlled army, wouldn't they? So I bet that this would reduce tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems. (By the way, exactly who would be paying for that army?) Ask yourself that question again in about three weeks. --Ronn! :) Ronn-- So you're hinting that the semi-autonomous regions of a recently invaded country could get the invading power to give them military aid if they promised to stop fighting each other? Nonsense! Why the invading power would have to be run by a total idiot! ---David ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Is it just me....
At 12:10 AM Saturday 3/25/2006, David Hobby wrote: ... Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of saying countries, anyway. The regions would still struggle to control that strong centrally controlled army, wouldn't they? So I bet that this would reduce tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems. (By the way, exactly who would be paying for that army?) Ask yourself that question again in about three weeks. --Ronn! :) Ronn-- So you're hinting that the semi-autonomous regions of a recently invaded country could get the invading power to give them military aid if they promised to stop fighting each other? Nonsense! Why the invading power would have to be run by a total idiot! ---David Actually all I was hinting was that whenever troops get sent to keep the peace in some region of the world, 99% of the time the troops and the money come from the good ol' USA . . . --Ronn! :) Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER GOD. Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too? -- Red Skelton (Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Is it just me....
Ritu wrote: David Hobby wrote: I'd even propose that partition into separate countries should be the default for groups with separate languages. Eww! I think that is a pretty bad idea, at least for my part of the world. Just out of curiousity though, when you say 'language' do you mean just official languages or do the dialects also get to thump their chests and ask for a separate nation? Just languages! I'd even call Hindi and Urdu one language, if that helped. : ) Separate countries created this way could always decide to merge; I'm sure the three or four parts of Switzerland would. Yeah right. You create different states, make random politicians heads of state instead of mere heads of provinces/areas, and you expect them to give that up to merge...? Well, the PEOPLE would decide, in my system. It would just go to a popular vote. We can't trust politicians to decide things like this... Many countries exist for historical reasons, it's not clear to me that one should expend much energy trying to keep them together. What is wrong with historic reasons? Why should they be considered obviously inferior to linguistic or ethnic reasons? Historic reasons was my euphemism for somebody conquered all these places, and decided to call it a country. If history matters that much, the groups can always choose to stay together. I have never been a fan of keeping people in forcibly, but I do not share this love of dismemberment, David. :) Ritu-- I was overstating things to get a reaction, I guess. If a whole bunch of really different regions want to be one country, fine. On the other hand, what would be so wrong with them being many different countries, bound together as the countries in the EU are? I do agree with you, the people involved should get to decide. I'm not sure what the best mechanism for this would be. One could start by giving every linguistically (or however) distinct group its own homeland, ideally a place where they made up most of the population. (I'm not sure what to do with the Gypsies, for instance, assuming they'd want a homeland.) Who will 'give' these homelands? I'm presuming that the groups would already be in de facto possession of their homelands. Having to clear out the indigenous people to create a homeland for others is not an ideal solution! (This could now turn into an argument about Israel, but let's refrain.) And why is it a good idea to have distinct groups living in distinct localities? Well, it's not. It's something you would create if they demonstrated they can't share localities. But just having a homeland might take some pressure off of a group? Then once we have a rough idea of what the countries are, we get to negotiate their borders. Who is 'we' and who are 'they' whose borders 'we' get to negotiate? And why do 'we' get to negotiate 'their' borders? 'We' would include everybody involved. The group of neighboring countries, together with the outside power (hopefully the UN) who was trying to help produce a solution. You didn't think this was going to happen without an outside power intervening, did you? Some people would have to choose, then. If one was outside one's homeland, one could either move there, or stay where one was as a minority. Yeah, millions of muslims, sikhs, and hindus faced and made that choice in 1947. This might be a tangent, but here goes: The Hindus got India, the Muslims got Pakistan, and what region did the Sikhs get? There would have to be some carefully designed laws to stop minorities from being oppressed. Certainly they should always be able to get fair compensation for property they leave behind, and to then go to their homeland, or wherever. This is nice in theory but sometimes just doesn't work too well in practice. New nations are free to form their own constitutions, they are free to choose what rights they do or do not bestow upon their minorities. They are also free to choose just how often and how well these laws would be enforced. Property prices crash when the nation is in a turmoil due to a partition and relocation, government funds are tied up in protective and relief measures. New nations are also free to go to war with each other and then make it close to impossible for their new enemy's citizens to enter their nation. Ritu You have hit on a flaw of my argument, it does presume that there is an outside power which can enforce justice. Maybe there would have to be a period of a year before the constitution took effect. If it was sufficiently bad for some groups, that would be their time to get out. What I was getting at is that it is certainly unjust to force a group out AND confiscate their possessions. So I was trying to remove an economic motivation for picking on minorities. Now if one's property becomes worthless because the government of one's country messes up, that's too bad, but it would not be considered actionable. (One could for
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
Two strikes against this one: It's a song about music, which amounts to admitting that you have NOTHING left to write about but your job, and it's about the U.S.A., which says I am SUCH a loser that I have to kiss your national ass to get any airplay. Luv, Dave With a crackpipe in their hands and very little in their heads Land They come from the cities and they come from the smaller towns Beat up cars with guitars and drummers goin' crack, boom, bam R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A. R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A. R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A., yeah, yeah Rockin' in the U.S.A. Well, they said goodbye to their families, said goodbye to their friends With their pipedreams in their heads and very little money in their hands Some are black and some are white, ain't too proud to sleep on your floor tonight With the blind faith of Jesus, you know that they just might Be rockin' in the U.S.A. {Refrain} Voices from nowhere and voices from the larger towns Filled our head full of dreams, and turned our world upside down There was Frankie Lymon, Bobby Fuller, Mitch Ryder (they were rockin') Jackie Wilson, Shangrilas, Young Rascals (they were rockin') Spotlight on Martha Reeves, let's don't forget James Brown Rockin' in the U.S.A., hey! R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A. {Repeat to fade} ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello (hello, hello)
On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: I'm a-walkin' in the rain, Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain, Wishin' you were here by me, Strolling along country roads with my baby. It starts to rain, it begins to pour. Without an umbrella we're soaked to the skin. I feel a shiver run up my spine. I feel the warmth of her hand in mine. Oo, I hear laughter in the rain, walking hand in hand with the one I love. Oo, how I love the rainy days and the happy way I feel inside. After a while we run under a tree. I turn to her and she kisses me. There with the beat of the rain on the leaves softly she breathes and I close my eyes. Sharing our love under stormy skies. Oo, I hear laughter in the rain, walking hand in hand with the one I love. Oo, how I love the rainy days and the happy way I feel inside. I feel the warmth of her hand in mine. Oo, I hear laughter in the rain, walking hand in hand with the one I love. Oo, how I love the rainy days and the happy way I feel inside. Oo, I hear laughter in the rain, walking hand in hand with the one I love. Oo, how I love the rainy days and the happy way I feel inside. (repeat and fade) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l