Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Charlie Bell


On Mar 24, 2006, at 11:52 AM, Dave Land wrote:


Of course, that's until the music hall revue style Startide  
Rising, featuring the classic numbers Swimming in a metal sea,  
Sometimes it seems like the whole universe is out to get us and  
My what big teeth you have (for a dolphin).


Yeah, but whose idea was it to cast Bruce Willis as Creideiki and  
Jim Carey as Charles Dart? Kind of ruined it for me. You have to  
admit that Danny DeVito was a surprise hit as Takkata-Jim.


*snicker*



*humming Eve of the War*


I'm listening to the whole thing now. Amazing how well it holds up  
after almost 20 years.


...almost 30... 1978, dude.

Charlie
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hardware suckz

2006-03-24 Thread Alberto Monteiro
I give up.

My backup HD is fully readable and writable from Linux, all
auxiliary windoze programs can read it, but evil windoze itself
keeps giving me the stupid and meaningless error 
Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

I have lost too much time. Time to FR.

But since I will waste precious time with (mini-)backup, F,
and R, I will change the crappy HD for something more decent.

Any ideas about good HDs?

Alberto Monteiro

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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Nick Arnett
I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint.

Red rubber ball.

Havin' my baby.

Enough said?

Nick

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update

2006-03-24 Thread The Fool
 From: The Fool 

 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188463,00.html
 
 Isaac Hayes' Quitting Controversy
 
 Isaac Hayes did not quit South Park. My sources say that someone
quit
 it for him.
 
 I can tell you that Hayes is in no position to have quit anything.
 Contrary to news reports, the great writer, singer and musician
 suffered a stroke on Jan. 17. At the time it was said that he was
 hospitalized and suffering from exhaustion.
 It’s also absolutely ridiculous to think that Hayes, who loved
playing
 Chef on South Park, would suddenly turn against the show because
they
 were poking fun at Scientology.
 

http://www.wwtdd.com/index.php?type=onei=757

But in late January, Hayes suffered a stroke, and members of
Scientology took advantage if his infirmed condition to issue a
statement claiming to be Hayes leaving the show. Today the story gains
momentum as the New York Post picks it up and now names names: 

(Hayes is) at home recuperating and did not issue the press release
which said he was quitting because the show made fun of his faith. That
release was put out by fellow Scientologist Christina Kumi Kimball, a
fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor … 'Hayes loves 'South Park'
and needs it for income. He has a new wife and a baby on the way.'  

http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65830.htm
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Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread Andrew Crystall
On 22 Mar 2006 at 22:02, David Hobby wrote:

 Andrew Crystall wrote:
 ...
 This doesn't fit in with our geo-political plans, or those
 of Turkey, etc.  So what?  It would be best for the Iraqi
 people, and doing what's best for them is about the only
 remaining excuse for the whole war in the first place.
  
  
  I disagree, because any Kurdish state would, quite honestly, fprce 
  Turkey's hand.
  
  The answer which makes the most sense to me is semi-autonomous 
  regions, with a strong centrally-controlled army and single foreign 
  policy.
  
  That way, each of the groups gets to set many of their own domestic 
  policys, but they are tied into oen umbrella for controlling inter-
  factional violence and for foreign policy.
 
 Andrew--
 
 So Turkey has a right to oppress its Kurdish minority?
 If the USA cares so much about increasing freedom in
 the world, then it should be right there, telling
 Turkey that it had better let its Kurdish regions
 secede, or else.  : )  (There are a lot of wrongs to
 be righted, aren't there?)

Nope, but deliberately setting up something which is likely to 
explode into violence is wrong. It is why, for example, that while 
tensions in Israel were building at the time, Sharon was wrong to 
visit Temple Mount and spark the Intafada early.

And, well, let's just say that I'm more of if you funded them 20 
years ago and got them into power, clean your mess up school of 
thought.

 Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of
 saying countries, anyway.  The regions would still
 struggle to control that strong centrally controlled
 army, wouldn't they?  So I bet that this would reduce
 tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems.
 (By the way, exactly who would be paying for that
 army?)

I'm not saying it'd be perfect, or even good. I just think it'd be 
better than the current situation.

AndrewC
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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Dave Land


On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:


I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint.

Red rubber ball.

Havin' my baby.

Enough said?


Yes, considering that the complete lyrics of the latter song have  
been posted already.


Honestly, for the ListMaster[tm], you sure aren't paying attention.

Red Rubber Ball, on the other hand, reminds me of a song:

I rode my bicycle past your window last night
I roller skated to your door at daylight
It almost seems that you're avoiding me
I'm ok alone but you've got something I need

Well, I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key
I think that we should get together
And try them out ya see
I've been lookin' around a while
You got somethin' for me
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

I ride my bike, I roller skate, don't drive no car
Don't go too fast, but I go pretty far
For somebody who don't drive I've been all around the world
Some people say I've done all right for a girl
Oh yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah, yeah-yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah-yeah

I asked your mother if you were at home
She said yes, but you weren't alone
Oh sometimes I think that your avoiding me
I'm ok alone but you got something I need well

I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key
I think that we should get together
And try them out ya see
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
I've got a brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key


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Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update

2006-03-24 Thread Max Battcher

The Fool wrote:

But in late January, Hayes suffered a stroke, and members of
Scientology took advantage if his infirmed condition to issue a
statement claiming to be Hayes leaving the show. Today the story gains
momentum as the New York Post picks it up and now names names: 


(Hayes is) at home recuperating and did not issue the press release
which said he was quitting because the show made fun of his faith. That
release was put out by fellow Scientologist Christina Kumi Kimball, a
fashion executive for designer Craig Taylor … 'Hayes loves 'South Park'
and needs it for income. He has a new wife and a baby on the way.'  


http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/65830.htm


Anyone else curious how Isaac Hayes might feel now after this week's 
Super Adventure Club episode?


--
--Max Battcher--
http://www.worldmaker.net/
I'm gonna win, trust in me / I have come to save this world / and in 
the end I'll get the grrrl! --Machinae Supremacy, Hero (Promo Track)

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Re: Isaac Hayes quits SouthPark -- Update

2006-03-24 Thread Medievalbk
 
In a message dated 3/24/2006 4:15:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Anyone  else curious how Isaac Hayes might feel now after this week's 
Super  Adventure Club episode?




They just write another episode where it all turns out to be a dream.
 
Though a nude Chef in the shower is not something I'm actually looking  
forward to.
 
Vilyehm
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Re: hardware suckz

2006-03-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 07:15 AM Friday 3/24/2006, Alberto Monteiro wrote:

I give up.

My backup HD is fully readable and writable from Linux, all
auxiliary windoze programs can read it, but evil windoze itself
keeps giving me the stupid and meaningless error
Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

I have lost too much time. Time to FR.

But since I will waste precious time with (mini-)backup, F,
and R, I will change the crappy HD for something more decent.

Any ideas about good HDs?



So far so good with these two Hitachi 500GB drives I installed last 
fall.  If you have lots of space-hogging files (or just don't want to 
run out of space anytime soon), I can recommend them.  I've also had 
good luck with the Maxtor drives I've bought and installed myself 
(currently running a 300GB I bought last year and the 80GB one I took 
out of the old machine which I had been using since IIRC spring of 
2001 and had most of the stuff I used in astronomy classes for those 
4 years or so).  OTOH, IIRC the two primary drives which came with 
machines and later failed (the last one within a week) were also 
Maxtor, FWIW . . .



--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)




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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 04:40 PM Friday 3/24/2006, Dave Land wrote:


On Mar 24, 2006, at 7:49 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:


I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint.

Red rubber ball.

Havin' my baby.

Enough said?


Yes, considering that the complete lyrics of the latter song have
been posted already.

Honestly, for the ListMaster[tm], you sure aren't paying attention.

Red Rubber Ball, on the other hand, reminds me of a song:

I rode my bicycle past your window last night
I roller skated to your door at daylight
It almost seems that you're avoiding me
I'm ok alone but you've got something I need

Well, I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key
I think that we should get together
And try them out ya see
I've been lookin' around a while
You got somethin' for me
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

I ride my bike, I roller skate, don't drive no car
Don't go too fast, but I go pretty far
For somebody who don't drive I've been all around the world
Some people say I've done all right for a girl
Oh yeah, yeah-yeah-yeah, yeah-yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah-yeah

I asked your mother if you were at home
She said yes, but you weren't alone
Oh sometimes I think that your avoiding me
I'm ok alone but you got something I need well

I've gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key
I think that we should get together
And try them out ya see
La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
Oh, I gotta brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la
La, la, la, la, la, la
I've got a brand new pair of roller skates
You got a brand new key





As I walk along,
I wonder what went wrong,
With our love, a love that was so strong.
And as I still walk on,
I think of the things we've done
Together, a-while our hearts were young.

I'm a-walkin' in the rain,
Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain,
Wishin' you were here by me,
To end this misery
And I wonder--
I wah-wah-wah-wah-wonder,
Why,
Why, why, why, why, why she ran away,
Yes, and I wonder,
A-where she will stay-ay,
My little runaway,
Run, run, run, run, runaway.

I'm a-walkin' in the rain,
Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain,
Wishin' you were here by me,
To end this misery
And I wonder--
I wah-wah-wah-wah-wonder,
Why,
Why, why, why, why, why she ran away,
Yes, and I wonder,
A-where she will stay-ay,
My little runaway,
Run, run, run, run, runaway.
Run, run, run, run, runaway.
Run, run, run, run, runaway.


I Mah-Mah-Mah-Mah-Maru


--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)




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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 09:49 AM Friday 3/24/2006, Nick Arnett wrote:

I really don't want to play this game... so I'll just hint.

Red rubber ball.



I shoulda thought of this one.




Havin' my baby.



Already posted.



If I Never Hear Your Name Again, It's All The Same To Me Maru


--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)




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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

Howcum this one hasn't shown up before now?



Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do what about you feel ...

Young man, are you listening to me?
I said, young man, what do you want to be?
I said, young man, you can make real your dreams.
But you got to know this one thing!

No man does it all by himself.
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf,
And just go there, to the Y-M-C-A.
I'm sure they can help you today.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

You can get yourself clean, you can have a good meal,
You can do what about you feel ...

Young man, I was once in your shoes.
I said, I was down and out with the blues.
I felt no man cared if I were alive.
I felt the whole world was so tight ...

That's when someone came up to me,
And said, young man, take a walk up the street.
There's a place there called the Y-M-C-A.
They can start you back on your way.

It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.
It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

Y-M-C-A ... you'll find it at the Y-M-C-A.

Young man, young man, there's no need to feel down.
Young man, young man, get yourself off the ground.

Y-M-C-A ... you'll find it at the Y-M-C-A.

Young man, young man, there's no need to feel down.
Young man, young man, get yourself off the ground.

Y-M-C-A ... just go to the Y-M-C-A.

Young man, young man, are you listening to me?
Young man, young man, what do you wanna be?



It Takes A Village Maru


--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been added to our country 
and two words have been added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that is a prayer and that 
would be eliminated from schools too?

   -- Red Skelton

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Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread David Hobby

...

Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of
saying countries, anyway.  The regions would still
struggle to control that strong centrally controlled
army, wouldn't they?  So I bet that this would reduce
tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems.
(By the way, exactly who would be paying for that
army?)




Ask yourself that question again in about three weeks.


--Ronn!  :)


Ronn--

So you're hinting that the semi-autonomous regions of
a recently invaded country could get the invading power
to give them military aid if they promised to stop
fighting each other?  Nonsense!  Why the invading power
would have to be run by a total idiot!

---David

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Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread Ronn!Blankenship

At 12:10 AM Saturday 3/25/2006, David Hobby wrote:

...

Semi-autonomous regions might be a polite way of
saying countries, anyway.  The regions would still
struggle to control that strong centrally controlled
army, wouldn't they?  So I bet that this would reduce
tensions some, but maybe not solve all the problems.
(By the way, exactly who would be paying for that
army?)


Ask yourself that question again in about three weeks.

--Ronn!  :)


Ronn--

So you're hinting that the semi-autonomous regions of
a recently invaded country could get the invading power
to give them military aid if they promised to stop
fighting each other?  Nonsense!  Why the invading power
would have to be run by a total idiot!

---David



Actually all I was hinting was that whenever 
troops get sent to keep the peace in some 
region of the world, 99% of the time the troops 
and the money come from the good ol' U—S—A . . .



--Ronn!  :)

Since I was a small boy, two states have been 
added to our country and two words have been 
added to the pledge of Allegiance... UNDER 
GOD.  Wouldn't it be a pity if someone said that 
is a prayer and that would be eliminated from schools too?

   -- Red Skelton

(Someone asked me to change my .sig quote back, so I did.)




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Re: Is it just me....

2006-03-24 Thread David Hobby

Ritu wrote:

David Hobby wrote:



I'd even propose that partition into separate countries
should be the default for groups with separate languages. 



Eww! I think that is a pretty bad idea, at least for my part of the
world.
Just out of curiousity though, when you say 'language' do you mean just
official languages or do the dialects also get to thump their chests and
ask for a separate nation?


Just languages!  I'd even call Hindi and Urdu one
language, if that helped.  : )

Separate countries created this way could always decide to 
merge; I'm sure the three or four parts of Switzerland would. 



Yeah right. You create different states, make random politicians heads
of state instead of mere heads of provinces/areas, and you expect them
to give that up to merge...?


Well, the PEOPLE would decide, in my system.  It would
just go to a popular vote.  We can't trust politicians
to decide things like this...


Many countries exist for historical reasons, it's not
clear to me that one should expend much energy trying to
keep them together.


What is wrong with historic reasons? Why should they be considered
obviously inferior to linguistic or ethnic reasons?


Historic reasons was my euphemism for somebody conquered
all these places, and decided to call it a country.  If
history matters that much, the groups can always choose to
stay together.


I have never been a fan of keeping people in forcibly, but I do not
share this love of dismemberment, David. :)


Ritu--  I was overstating things to get a reaction, I guess.
If a whole bunch of really different regions want to be one
country, fine.  On the other hand, what would be so wrong
with them being many different countries, bound together as
the countries in the EU are?


I do agree with you, the people involved should get to
decide.  I'm not sure what the best mechanism for this
would be.  One could start by giving every linguistically
(or however) distinct group its own homeland, ideally
a place where they made up most of the population.
(I'm not sure what to do with the Gypsies, for instance, 
assuming they'd want a homeland.)


Who will 'give' these homelands?


I'm presuming that the groups would already be in
de facto possession of their homelands.  Having to
clear out the indigenous people to create a homeland
for others is not an ideal solution!  (This could
now turn into an argument about Israel, but let's
refrain.)


And why is it a good idea to have distinct groups living in distinct
localities? 


Well, it's not.  It's something you would create if
they demonstrated they can't share localities.  But
just having a homeland might take some pressure off
of a group?


Then once we have a rough idea of what the countries
are, we get to negotiate their borders. 


Who is 'we' and who are 'they' whose borders 'we' get to negotiate? And
why do 'we' get to negotiate 'their' borders?


'We' would include everybody involved.  The group of
neighboring countries, together with the outside
power (hopefully the UN) who was trying to help produce
a solution.  You didn't think this was going to happen
without an outside power intervening, did you?


Some people
would have to choose, then.  If one was outside one's
homeland, one could either move there, or stay where
one was as a minority.  



Yeah, millions of muslims, sikhs, and hindus faced and made that choice
in 1947.


This might be a tangent, but here goes:  The Hindus got India, the
Muslims got Pakistan, and what region did the Sikhs get?


There would have to be some
carefully designed laws to stop minorities from being 
oppressed.  Certainly they should always be able to get fair 
compensation for property they leave behind, and to then go 
to their homeland, or wherever.


This is nice in theory but sometimes just doesn't work too well in
practice. New nations are free to form their own constitutions, they are
free to choose what rights they do or do not bestow upon their
minorities. They are also free to choose just how often and how well
these laws would be enforced. Property prices crash when the nation is
in a turmoil due to a partition and relocation, government funds are
tied up in protective and relief measures. New nations are also free to
go to war with each other and then make it close to impossible for their
new enemy's citizens to enter their nation.

Ritu


You have hit on a flaw of my argument, it does presume that
there is an outside power which can enforce justice.  Maybe
there would have to be a period of a year before the constitution
took effect.  If it was sufficiently bad for some groups, that
would be their time to get out.  What I was getting at is that
it is certainly unjust to force a group out AND confiscate their
possessions.  So I was trying to remove an economic motivation
for picking on minorities.

Now if one's property becomes worthless because the government
of one's country messes up, that's too bad, but it would not
be considered actionable.  (One could for 

Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Dave Land
Two strikes against this one: It's a song about music, which amounts  
to admitting that you have NOTHING left to write about but your job,  
and it's about the U.S.A., which says I am SUCH a loser that I have  
to kiss your national ass to get any airplay.


Luv,

Dave With a crackpipe in their hands and very little in their heads  
Land




They come from the cities and they come from the smaller towns
Beat up cars with guitars and drummers goin' crack, boom, bam

R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.
R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.
R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A., yeah, yeah
Rockin' in the U.S.A.

Well, they said goodbye to their families, said goodbye to their friends
With their pipedreams in their heads and very little money in their  
hands
Some are black and some are white, ain't too proud to sleep on your  
floor tonight

With the blind faith of Jesus, you know that they just might
Be rockin' in the U.S.A.

{Refrain}

Voices from nowhere and voices from the larger towns
Filled our head full of dreams, and turned our world upside down
There was Frankie Lymon, Bobby Fuller, Mitch Ryder (they were rockin')
Jackie Wilson, Shangrilas, Young Rascals (they were rockin')
Spotlight on Martha Reeves, let's don't forget James Brown
Rockin' in the U.S.A., hey!

R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A. {Repeat to fade}

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Re: Hello (hello, hello)

2006-03-24 Thread Dave Land

On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Ronn!Blankenship wrote:


I'm a-walkin' in the rain,
Tears are fallin' and I feel the pain,
Wishin' you were here by me,


Strolling along country roads with my baby.
It starts to rain, it begins to pour.
Without an umbrella we're soaked to the skin.
I feel a shiver run up my spine.

I feel the warmth of her hand in mine.

Oo, I hear laughter in the rain,
walking hand in hand with the one I love.
Oo, how I love the rainy days
and the happy way I feel inside.

After a while we run under a tree.
I turn to her and she kisses me.
There with the beat of the rain on the leaves
softly she breathes and I close my eyes.

Sharing our love under stormy skies.

Oo, I hear laughter in the rain,
walking hand in hand with the one I love.
Oo, how I love the rainy days
and the happy way I feel inside.

I feel the warmth of her hand in mine.

Oo, I hear laughter in the rain,
walking hand in hand with the one I love.
Oo, how I love the rainy days
and the happy way I feel inside.

Oo, I hear laughter in the rain,
walking hand in hand with the one I love.
Oo, how I love the rainy days
and the happy way I feel inside.
(repeat and fade)


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