Re: Dog viciousness (was Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism)

2007-12-28 Thread Kanandarqu
Nick wrote >>I relaxed a great deal about pits after reading an article citing >> statistics >> that made it clear that *owners* are far more responsible for their >> dogs' >> behavior than I had imagined before becoming a dog owner >Nick, if you can remember where you read that, there's

Dog viciousness (was Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism)

2007-12-28 Thread Robert J. Chassell
Nick Arnett said, I have a hard time believing that pits are inherently vicious. They aren't when you are a friend of the little old lady that owns one. (I knew the `little old lady' when she was young, but then, I was young at the same time ...) ... *owners* are far more responsible

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2007, at 9:46 AM, Doug wrote: > Charlie, thanks for the essay and the links; good stuff. *takes a bow* My pleasure. It should be obvious it's one of my favourite topics (well, I did sit through 4 years of it at university...), and I'm always happy to talk zoology or evolutionary b

Re: Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2007, at 9:25 AM, Trent Shipley wrote: > Yes. They threw me off the Orion's Arm discussion list for being a > worm hole > skeptic. "Skeptic" or "Denialist"? *poke* ;-) Charlie. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Dog viciousness (was Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism)

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2007, at 3:02 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: > > > I relaxed a great deal about pits after reading an article citing > statistics > that made it clear that *owners* are far more responsible for their > dogs' > behavior than I had imagined before becoming a dog owner Nick, if you can remember

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Doug
Charlie, thanks for the essay and the links; good stuff. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-28 Thread Trent Shipley
Yes. They threw me off the Orion's Arm discussion list for being a worm hole skeptic. On Thursday 2007-12-27 20:57, Max Battcher wrote: > Did you look at Orion's Arm? It has a couple of the things you mention: > > http://www.orionsarm.com/ > ___ http:

Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-28 Thread jon louis mann
These are the features that I'm thinking of as part of a fairly Luddite "cannon". --Only STL travel is possible. No FTL, no worm holes. --No reactionless drives. --No antigravity. --The main means of travel is by beam riding ships weighing a few grams and made of computronium. -

Re: Brin:World Building Wiki

2007-12-28 Thread David Brin
Trent... cool looking game... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Dog viciousness (was Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism)

2007-12-28 Thread Nick Arnett
On Dec 28, 2007 3:31 AM, Charlie Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That they've been bred for viciousness says more about the people > doing the breeding than the dogs themselves. As for orcas, what's > wrong with orcas? They're carnivores, they're top predators, they're > smart. But they're no

Yet another sort of problem with Wal-Mart

2007-12-28 Thread Julia Thompson
I have a friend who ordered a toy kitchen online and when she got it, too soon before Christmas to get it replaced if there was a problem, it turned out it had been a return and one piece was broken. So, no play kitchen for her girls for Christmas, which sucks. But not as bad as this: http://

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Julia Thompson
On Fri, 28 Dec 2007, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Charlie Bell wrote: >> >>> It's wrong, because they are not "whales". >> >> Yes they are. They're toothed whales. Baleen whales (humpbacks, >> blues, rights, minkes etc) and toothed whales (including killer >> whales, pilot whales, belugas, narwha

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: > >> It's wrong, because they are not "whales". > > Yes they are. They're toothed whales. Baleen whales (humpbacks, > blues, rights, minkes etc) and toothed whales (including killer > whales, pilot whales, belugas, narwhals, and dolphins) are a clade, > they're monophyleti

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 29/12/2007, at 12:04 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Charlie Bell wrote: >> >>> I used "orcas" just because of their (wrong) name, "killer whales", >>> since they are more dolphins than whales. >> >> I didn't mean, what's wrong with the name "killer whale". >> > It's wrong, because they are not

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: > >> I used "orcas" just because of their (wrong) name, "killer whales", >> since they are more dolphins than whales. > > I didn't mean, what's wrong with the name "killer whale". > It's wrong, because they are not "whales". Ok, a seahorse is not a horse, a sea anemona is not a

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/12/2007, at 11:00 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: >> > I used "orcas" just because of their (wrong) name, "killer whales", > since they are more dolphins than whales. I didn't mean, what's wrong with the name "killer whale". I meant, what's wrong with killer whales? Why do orcas give whales (

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: > >> OTOH, Pitbulls should be called a different species; they are >> "dogs" in the same way that killer whales are "whales" :-/ > > That they've been bred for viciousness says more about the people > doing the breeding than the dogs themselves. > Yes - but they corrupt the

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Charlie Bell
On 28/12/2007, at 9:08 PM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: >> > OTOH, Pitbulls should be called a different species; they are > "dogs" in the same way that killer whales are "whales" :-/ That they've been bred for viciousness says more about the people doing the breeding than the dogs themselves. As fo

Re: Texas : Master's degree in creationism

2007-12-28 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Charlie Bell wrote: > > Yes, and if some disaster were to befall every dog breed except > Great Danes and Chihuahuas, that would be a speciation event. :-) > Your point is valid, and shows how tricky defining species can be - > there are whole groups of beetles of which the member species ca