Re: An interesting response

2008-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:17:39 +1000
To: brin-l@mccmedia.com
Subject: Re: An interesting response 



On 03/05/2008, at 1:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and their fuel loads per passenger.  One would have to stop for
 fueling several times to make that distance. I realize that most  
 planes have to stop once, including the 747, but the 777 can make 
it in one.

London to Sydney? In one hop? No current commercial aircraft can do  
it. London to Sydney is almost 13.500 miles and the 777 has a range of  
a bit over 9000. I'll come back to the rest of the post later.

It's true that some of the plans are for 787 flights, not 777 flights, but
if the links given below are trustworthy both the 777 and the 787 have the
capacity to do it as nonstop.

http://www.get-packing.com/news/flights/archives/april-2007/virgin-plans-dir
ect-london-to-sydney-flights.html?fid=1094933108


http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/travel/business/article59
0535.ece

http://www.get-packing.com/news/flights/archives/february-2007/qantas-consid
ers-non-stop-london-sydney-flights.html?fid=1638842198

It's not commercial yet, but according to the first quote, planes are now
on order for that flight.

The second article shows a _demostrated_ range of 13500 for the 777 , and
the nonstop route would be somewhat shorter than a one stop route. 

Dan M.




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Re: An interesting response

2008-05-03 Thread Charlie Bell

On 04/05/2008, at 12:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The second article shows a _demostrated_ range of 13500 for the  
 777 , and
 the nonstop route would be somewhat shorter than a one stop route.

When loaded with passengers and baggage, the airline will be able to  
fly 10,900 miles non-stop

Yes, it did 13,500. Unloaded. It'll just be able to do London - Sydney  
loaded if the shortest possible aircraft route is available, and in  
the right conditions. Really want to rely on no headwinds to make it  
across Oz...?

The longest scheduled commercial service offered currently is the over  
18 hour non-stop from Newark to Singapore.

Maybe someone will offer a London-Sydney non-stop in the future, and  
maybe it'll be a 777 that does it, but currently no plane can do it  
commercially, as I said.

Charlie.
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Re: Brin-l Digest, Vol 377, Issue 3

2008-05-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
William T Goodall wrote:

 So we don't really know how available some minerals are until we start
 looking for them harder?

It happened with oil and gas. Brazil was considered with no oil back in 
the 1930s - they were almost right, considering the technology of the time.
Probably the UK and Norway were also considered places with no oil.

Alberto Monteiro
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Re: Just one complaint about Forbidden Kingdom

2008-05-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Julia Thompson wrote:

 The moon.  The frakkin' moon.

 By what they said in dialogue at one point, I figured it was waning.  Then
 when we saw it on the screen, it was waxing.

 Do they need to hire someone who understands the phases of the moon there?

The idiocy of script writers spoiled the first time I saw Ladyhawke. When
there was that riddle about a day that is not a day, a night that is not a 
night, I yawned and thought solar eclipse. But then they showed an 
almost-full moon, three days before that event, and I suddenly thought that
it should be something else - maybe the SN 1054, the Crab Supernova. Of
course, they decided to ignore science and put a trivial solar eclipse :-/

Alberto Monteiro
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Gas engines: Here to stay

2008-05-03 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
http://money.cnn.com/2008/04/29/autos/gas_engine_improvements/index.htm




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