Re: Power and civilization

2012-12-03 Thread ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO
Dan Minette wrote:

 The poison you talk about is roundup.  And, yes, if I drank a bottle of it,
 I'd probably be sick.  But, I've used it on weeds.  Spray it on grass, and
 the grass dies, but spray it on weeds 3 inches from grass, and the small
 amount that gets on the grass doesn't hurt it.  If Roundup were that bad,
 wouldn't we see the effects on the laws of folks who use it, on the animal
 life in the area, etc?

That's not how slow poison works. People don't die for smoking a
cigarette, or for smoking 100 cigarettes a day for 30 years. But then
they die in the 31st year.

Alberto Monteiro

PS: is bringing cigarettes to the discussion like bringing Hitler?

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Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses

2012-12-03 Thread ALBERTO VIEIRA FERREIRA MONTEIRO
Klaus Stock wrote:

 Nope. In Germany, political reasons are the real reasons, not common
 sense.

The europeans are crazy. They don't know what to do, they add a lot of
uncertainty to the economy with all those subsidies that come and go,
taxes that come and go, and regulations that come and go.

Alberto Monteiro

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RE: Power and civilization

2012-12-03 Thread Dan Minette

That's not how slow poison works. People don't die for smoking a cigarette,
or for smoking 100 
cigarettes a day for 30 years. But then they die in the 31st year.

The difference, of course, is that there were a large number of symtoms,
very statistically significant differences in longevity, etc. with cigarette
smoking.  Even with simple studies, it was easy to see.

With DDT, much more sophisticated studies were done.  It's impossible to
prove that no-one is hurt by exposore to DDT, Roundup, etc.  But, Roundup
has been subjected to the tumor prone mice study.  What hasn't, is natural
supplements.  It is likely that there are dangerous things sold in health
food stores that we could check for, but by law they are not checked because
they are natural.

Dan M. 


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