Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Julia wrote: Would you consider some excuses to be reasonable? Of course. The one I think is lame, though, is that they are somehow saving the planet by deciding not to have children. And, if responsible, enlightened people are having children, at what point do they get to decide how

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Jon wrote: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. surely you don't believe that gawd created man to have dominion over every living thing that moves on the earth? it is not a sacrifice, doug, it is a duty to the

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Jul 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: It's not just a numbers game. If you have the opportunity to bring a child into the world that has a reasonable chance to make a positive contribution, there are few arguments not to do so. The world doesn't just need fewer people;

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread John Garcia
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Bruce Bostwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Jul 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM, Doug Pensinger wrote: It's not just a numbers game. If you have the opportunity to bring a child into the world that has a reasonable chance to make a positive contribution, there are

Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Jon Louis Mann
Doug Pensinger wrote: It's not just a numbers game. If you have the opportunity to bring a child into the world that has a reasonable chance to make a positive contribution, there are few arguments not to do so. The world doesn't just need fewer people; it needs more people that

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Wayne Eddy
From: Jon Louis Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] unfortunately, throughout history, it is the the best and the brightest who have perpetrated evils on the poor and downtrodden. there have been exceptions, but over and over again governments and religions have used their ideology or dogma to justify

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Doug Pensinger
Bruce wrote: That's another matter entirely than restricting childbirth. That's a value distinction as to who is more or less entitled to reproduce. And on that, I will agree with you, that some parents are probably better candidates to reproduce the species than others. But, as a member

Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Jon Louis Mann
I would love to see a summary of the good evil deeds that the best brightest have been responsible for over the years and contrast that with the deads of the worst dimmest, but it hasn't been done and I suspect it is impossible to do. What justification do you have for your

Re: Genesis 1:28

2008-07-26 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Jon Louis Mann wrote: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it. surely you don't believe that gawd created man to have dominion over every living thing that moves on the earth? OTOH, if this command should be taken