Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Dan M wrote: Behalf Of Nick Arnett "Organic gardening" bugs me. Sounds like the opposite would be "inorganic gardening." Like organic food...as though non-organic tomatoes were carbon free. I like to think of it as Amis

RE: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Dan M
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of Nick Arnett Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:26 AM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us >"Organic g

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Dave Land
On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:25 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Alberto Monteiro > wrote: I think that a more accurate definition is that Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds where carbon has a covalent bond with hydrogen, or to a replacement of hydrogen. "Or

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 3:46 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: > > I think that a more accurate definition is that Organic chemistry > is the chemistry of carbon compounds where carbon has a covalent > bond with hydrogen, or to a replacement of hydrogen. "Organic gardening" bugs me. Sounds like the o

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-19 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: > > I agree with you. "Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon > compounds." Though usually with the omission of most metal > carbonates, the chemistry of which is usually covered in the section > on inorganic chemistry. That's how *I* teach it in colleges, >

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Bruce Bostwick
On Nov 18, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Rceeberger wrote: On 11/18/2009 7:00:59 PM, Ronn! Blankenship (ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net ) wrote: At 11:58 AM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Deborah Harrell wrote: I'll bet there's a difference of wording -- 'organic chemistry' here primarily refers to petrochemicals;

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Rceeberger
On 11/18/2009 7:00:59 PM, Ronn! Blankenship (ronn_blankens...@bellsouth.net) wrote: > At 11:58 AM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Deborah Harrell wrote: > > >I'll bet there's a difference of wording -- 'organic chemistry' here > >primarily refers to petrochemicals; 'biochemistry' refers to > >life-related

Re: Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:28 AM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Deborah Harrell wrote: And no, I who at one point could fill an entire blackboard with the Krebs cycle and multiple connecting metabolic pathwaysincluding peptide synthesis, had _no idea_ that some amino acids (not to mention hormones etc.) were aromatic...

Re: Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 01:36 PM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Alberto Monteiro wrote: But if PVC is carcinogen than we could suffer the same doom the lead-piped romans suffered... At least we won't go plumb crazy. You Can Lead A Horse To Water But A Pencil Has To Be Lead Maru . . . ronn! :) ___

Re: Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 11:58 AM Wednesday 11/18/2009, Deborah Harrell wrote: I'll bet there's a difference of wording -- 'organic chemistry' here primarily refers to petrochemicals; 'biochemistry' refers to life-related chemicals. This is an incorrect terminology in my opinion, but I can't change what is taught

Re: Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell wrote: > >>> "A new report from the Danish Department of Environment, Food and >>> Rural Affairs (DEFRA), highlights the critical risks facing toddlers >>> from gender bending chemicals in everyday products. Chemicals like >>> phthalates (found in PVC and fragrances), > >> In f

Nomenclature (was) Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
> From: Alberto Monteiro > I think it was established that benzene is carninogen. But > I am > not aware that phthalates, just because they are aromatic, > are > harmful. In fact, a few aminoacids are aromatic. I'll bet there's a difference of wording -- 'organic chemistry' here primarily refe

Re: Chemicals R Us

2009-11-18 Thread Deborah Harrell
> Alberto Monteiro wrote: > Deborah Harrell quoted: > > "A new report from the Danish Department of Environment, Food and > > Rural Affairs (DEFRA), highlights the critical risks facing toddlers > > from gender bending chemicals in everyday products. Chemicals like > > phthalates (found in PV

Re: Chemicals R Us

2009-11-16 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Deborah Harrell quoted: > > "A new report from the Danish Department of Environment, Food and > Rural Affairs (DEFRA), highlights the critical risks facing toddlers > from gender bending chemicals in everyday products. Chemicals like > phthalates (found in PVC and fragrances), > In fact, phtha

Chemicals R Us

2009-11-16 Thread Deborah Harrell
I posted an article several years ago about the increase in hermaphrodite polar bears, which researchers thought related to the increased concentration of estrogenic chemicals.  'So what?'  This: http://blogs.webmd.com/health-ehome/2009/11/chemicals-in-everyday-products-turning.html?ecd=wnl_day_