RE: Is this thing on?

2010-01-26 Thread Ronn! Blankenship

At 05:53 PM Monday 1/25/2010, Julia wrote:



-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of John Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: Is this thing on?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
 _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

How's _it_ hangin' ?

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I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool
loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging?  (Of
course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet,
the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.)

Julia




Some places the ground is hard enough to make a rubber mallet useless 
for that purpose.  Carrying a sledge hammer of sufficient size in a 
tool loop on an article of clothing more commonly worn in these 
parts, however, might lead to one being the subject of the tune made 
popular recently by commercials for _American Idol_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc)




. . . ronn!  :)



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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick


On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:


At 05:53 PM Monday 1/25/2010, Julia wrote:



I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in  
the tool
loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer  
hanging?  (Of
course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber  
mallet,

the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.)

   Julia




Some places the ground is hard enough to make a rubber mallet  
useless for that purpose.  Carrying a sledge hammer of sufficient  
size in a tool loop on an article of clothing more commonly worn in  
these parts, however, might lead to one being the subject of the  
tune made popular recently by commercials for _American Idol_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc 
)




. . . ronn!  :)


I've been known to use 60d bridge spikes, due to two things rather  
common in the places I've had to camp in Texas: 1) buried bits of  
limestone, and 2) caliche.  Driving those usually doesn't require a  
sledgehammer, but it often requires a 2 lb crosspeen hammer.


(It's rather interesting to both hear and feel one of those little  
rocks splitting under the spike when I drive it in.  Under similar  
conditions, I have actually snapped the top off of vendor-supplied  
plastic stakes, and remember hearing a flying bit of one whizzing past  
my ear Hollywood-ricochet style once.  That was shortly before i  
switched to bridge spikes, which don't break.  Even if they are  
sometimes pure *#^$* to pull up.)


Oh yeah? Well, I speak LOOOUD, and I carry a BEEEger stick --  
and I use it too!  **whop!**   -- Yosemite Sam





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RE: Is this thing on?

2010-01-26 Thread Leonard Matusik


--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Julia ju...@zurg.net wrote:


From: Julia ju...@zurg.net
Subject: RE: Is this thing on?
To: 'Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 6:53 PM




-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of John Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: Is this thing on?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
 _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

How's _it_ hangin' ?

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I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool
loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging?  (Of
course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet,
the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.)

    Julia

... I use mine to pound sense into my own head...
Fortunately... I haven't come across much lately
...  though the Ultilikilt is well-made and stylish...
I really enjoy a long skirt myself...  
I wish sundresses for men were in vogue..
...  more about kilts... 
-Leonard
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RE: Is this thing on?

2010-01-25 Thread Julia
 

-Original Message-
From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On
Behalf Of John Williams
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM
To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion
Subject: Re: Is this thing on?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
 _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

How's _it_ hangin' ?

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I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool
loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging?  (Of
course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet,
the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.)

Julia


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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-22 Thread Mauro Diotallevi
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:43 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
 _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

 How's _it_ hangin' ?

I'm a little surprised no one has posted ASL? yet on this thread...

-- 
Mauro Diotallevi
The number you have dialed is imaginary.  Please rotate your phone 90
degrees and try again.

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RE: Is this thing on?

2010-01-22 Thread Jeroen van Baardwijk
On Stardate 20100121.2342, Wayne Eddy wrote:

 Say something about the free market and how or bad it is
 and that should fire up the list!

Nah, for real fireworks you'd have to start a Palestinians good, Israel evil 
discussion. Or launch the next Abortion Is Evil thread.

EVIL GRIN



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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-22 Thread Dave Land

I believe the exact phrasing is:

The free market is evil: why it should be eradicated

On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote:


On Stardate 20100121.2342, Wayne Eddy wrote:


Say something about the free market and how or bad it is
and that should fire up the list!


Nah, for real fireworks you'd have to start a Palestinians good,  
Israel evil discussion. Or launch the next Abortion Is Evil thread.


EVIL GRIN



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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread Wayne Eddy
Say something about the free market and how good or bad it is and that
should fire up the list!

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk jer...@brin-l.netwrote:

  taps on microphone

 Is this thing on?

 /tapping



 Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues,
 or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was?





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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread Trent Shipley
No.


Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote:

 taps on microphone

 Is this thing on?

 /tapping

  

 Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical
 issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was?

  

  

 Jeroen van Baardwijk

  

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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread Dave Land

_It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

Dave

On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Trent Shipley wrote:


No.


Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote:


taps on microphone

Is this thing on?

/tapping



Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical
issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was?





Jeroen van Baardwijk



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Re: Is this thing on?

2010-01-21 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote:
 _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_.

How's _it_ hangin' ?

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Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-02 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug Pensinger wrote:

 Alberto  wrote: 
 
 The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, 
 it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this 
 is an evil thing that should be eradicated. 
 
 Why is it evil, out of curiosity? 
 
Because it screws up the format of the message.

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-02 Thread Dave Land

On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote:


Doug Pensinger wrote:


Alberto  wrote:

The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH,
it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this
is an evil thing that should be eradicated.

Why is it evil, out of curiosity?


Because it screws up the format of the message.


As in the following, received as the first lines of an email from a  
client:


!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma;  
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font- 
family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319  
-2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} @font-face {font-family:Lucida  
Calligraphy; panose-1:3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-charset:0; mso- 
generic-font-family:script; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font- 
signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal,  
li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:; margin:0in; margin- 
bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font- 
family:Times New Roman; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New  
Roman;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text- 
decoration:underline; 	text-underline:single;} a:visited,  
span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;  
text-underline:single;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText,  
div.MsoPlainText {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso- 
pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Courier  
New; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;} p {mso-margin-top- 
alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left: 
0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font- 
family:Times New Roman; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New  
Roman;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; mso-style- 
noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt;  
font-family:Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma; mso-hansi-font- 
family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma; color:windowtext; mso- 
text-animation:none; 	font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text- 
decoration:none; text-underline:none; text-decoration:none; text- 
line-through:none;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal- 
reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:11.0pt; mso-bidi- 
font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma;  
mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; color:black; font-weight:normal; font- 
style:normal; text-decoration:none; text-underline:none; text- 
decoration:none; text-line-through:none;} span.GramE {mso-style- 
name:; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin: 
1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer- 
margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --


Not so useful.

Dave


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Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Nick Arnett moderated:

 I woke up this morning wondering if moving the Brin-L list to
 Bluehost has somehow killed it... because I realized that I'm
 not getting any messages, only digests.  This is weird.

The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH,
it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this
is an evil thing that should be eradicated.

 I'd ask if anybody else hasn't been getting list mail, but,
 well, you know. 

You can just send one message to the list and add in the BCC: field
a list of subscribers. Then ask if anyone received it just once.
As list-overlord you have this list, don't you?

Alberto Monteiro


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Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-01 Thread Nick Arnett
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.brwrote:


 You can just send one message to the list and add in the BCC: field
 a list of subscribers. Then ask if anyone received it just once.
 As list-overlord you have this list, don't you?


Ah, I actually received this, after switching settings around.

One of the rotten things about using a hosted mailing list service is that
there's no simple way to get the subscriber list.

Nick
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Re: Is this thing on?

2009-04-01 Thread Doug Pensinger
Alberto  wrote:

The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH,
 it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this
 is an evil thing that should be eradicated.


Why is it evil, out of curiosity?

Doug
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Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)

2006-03-02 Thread Charlie Bell


On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and  
Welcome
home.  I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet.  Perhaps  
it seems
absurd to thank people for serving in a war I oppose, but life is  
absurd.

Good people serve, are hurt and die, in wrong wars.


Such an important point that it is vital to remember. The soldiers  
are doing a job they believe in and most are doing the best they can  
on behalf of our various countries, even if the task they're  
currently doing is one we (and many of them) think is wrong.


Charlie
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Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)

2006-03-02 Thread Doug Pensinger
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:23:23 +1000, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:




On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:

Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and  Welcome
home.  I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet.  Perhaps  it 
seems
absurd to thank people for serving in a war I oppose, but life is  
absurd.

Good people serve, are hurt and die, in wrong wars.


Such an important point that it is vital to remember. The soldiers  are 
doing a job they believe in and most are doing the best they can  on 
behalf of our various countries, even if the task they're  currently 
doing is one we (and many of them) think is wrong.


And something we here in the U.S. did such a poor job of after Vietnam.   
We (in general) had this Universal Soldier* attitude even though most of 
the kids that had been over there had no (legal) say in the matter.


We made such a mess of that war it's hard to believe that we've become 
entangled again so soon afterwards.


--
Doug

*Universal Soldier
by Donovan

He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four,
He fights with missiles and with spears.
He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen,
Been a soldier for a thousand years.

He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain,
A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew.
And he knows he shouldn't kill,
And he knows he always will,
Kill you for me my friend and me for you.

And he's fighting for Canada,
He's fighting for France,
He's fighting for the USA,
And he's fighting for the Russians,
And he's fighting for Japan,
And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.

And he's fighting for Democracy,
He's fighting for the Reds,
He says it's for the peace of all.
He's the one who must decide,
Who's to live and who's to die,
And he never sees the writing on the wall.

But without him,
How would Hitler have condemned him at Dachau?
Without him Caesar would have stood alone,
He's the one who gives his body
As a weapon of the war,
And without him all this killing can't go on.

He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame,
His orders come from far away no more,
They come from here and there and you and me,
And brothers can't you see,
This is not the way we put the end to war.
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Re: Fw: Good thing you guys have express shipping...!

2005-10-21 Thread Julia Thompson

Horn, John wrote:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764508865/002-0326109-1351274?v=gl
ancen=283155n=507846s=booksv=glance

OR

http://tinyurl.com/avtk7

Scroll down to the review by Harriet M (shh!)


Uh, that's NOT how they say stare decisis in Texas.

Unless UT pronounces things differently from SMU.  :)

(I took a business law course at one point)

Julia
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Re: The Worst Thing Nixon Ever Did

2004-05-07 Thread Gary Denton
On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:06:54 -0700, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote quoting  
 http://www.techcentralstation.com/041504I.html
~~~

Doug,

DDT was banned in the United States for obvious reasons and all but a
few have hailed that decision. Those few are now getting funding from
anti-government think tanks and some corporate sponsors. Tech Central
Station, a fake news and opinion outlet supported by corporations it
writes opinions for, is now paid to be against the DDT ban. TCS
receives funding based on PR campaigns it undertakes for clients.

For more on Tech Central Station see Meet the Press - How James
Glassman reinvented journalism--as lobbying.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.confessore.html

DDT use was already in decline in the US because of increased insect
resistance.

DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichlorethane) killed many beneficial insects,
birds, and aquatic animals  not just malarial mosquitoes and it
presents a carcinogenic risk to humans, DDT is a persistent chemical
it does not break down but increasing builds up, particularly as it
moves up the food chain.

During the 1950s and 1960s several species of birds, including osprey,
cormorant, brown pelican, bald eagle, prairie falcon, sparrow hawk,
and peregrine falcon, were severely effected the pesticide DDT. A
chemical derived from the DDT weakened the egg shells of these birds,
reducing their ability to reproduce.

From a Bush government website:

How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect my health? 
DDT affects the nervous system. People who accidentally swallowed
large amounts of DDT became excitable and had tremors and seizures.
These effects went away after the exposure stopped. No effects were
seen in people who took small daily doses of DDT by capsule for 18
months.

A study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of a form of
DDE in their breast milk were unable to breast feed their babies for
as long as women who had little DDE in the breast milk. Another study
in humans showed that women who had high amounts of DDE in breast milk
had an increased chance of having premature babies.

In animals, short-term exposure to large amounts of DDT in food
affected the nervous system, while long-term exposure to smaller
amounts affected the liver. Also in animals, short-term oral exposure
to small amounts of DDT or its breakdown products may also have
harmful effects on reproduction.

How likely are DDT, DDE, and DDD to cause cancer? 
Studies in DDT-exposed workers did not show increases in cancer.
Studies in animals given DDT with the food have shown that DDT can
cause liver cancer.

The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) determined that DDT
may reasonable be anticipated to be a human carcinogen. The
International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) determined that DDT
may possibly cause cancer in humans. The EPA determined that DDT, DDE,
and DDD are probable human carcinogens.

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts35.html

DDT is NOT banned now for control of malaria in most of the rest of
the world.  This recent campaign against regulation of DDT has
evidently been started by companies making DDT because the United
Nations has recently recommended a ban on all uses of DDT except for
malaria control.

This malaria organization wants to get rid of DDT, but not until a
cheap effective replacement is found and may clarify some issues.

http://www.malaria.org/DDTpage.html

#1 on google for liberal news
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RE: Is this thing on?

2003-01-24 Thread Nick Arnett
It appears that the server was acting up, though I can't quite see what
happened.  For now, at least, it seems to be back to normal.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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