RE: Is this thing on?
At 05:53 PM Monday 1/25/2010, Julia wrote: -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Is this thing on? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. How's _it_ hangin' ? ___ I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging? (Of course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet, the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.) Julia Some places the ground is hard enough to make a rubber mallet useless for that purpose. Carrying a sledge hammer of sufficient size in a tool loop on an article of clothing more commonly worn in these parts, however, might lead to one being the subject of the tune made popular recently by commercials for _American Idol_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc) . . . ronn! :) ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
On Jan 26, 2010, at 11:17 AM, Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 05:53 PM Monday 1/25/2010, Julia wrote: I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging? (Of course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet, the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.) Julia Some places the ground is hard enough to make a rubber mallet useless for that purpose. Carrying a sledge hammer of sufficient size in a tool loop on an article of clothing more commonly worn in these parts, however, might lead to one being the subject of the tune made popular recently by commercials for _American Idol_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc ) . . . ronn! :) I've been known to use 60d bridge spikes, due to two things rather common in the places I've had to camp in Texas: 1) buried bits of limestone, and 2) caliche. Driving those usually doesn't require a sledgehammer, but it often requires a 2 lb crosspeen hammer. (It's rather interesting to both hear and feel one of those little rocks splitting under the spike when I drive it in. Under similar conditions, I have actually snapped the top off of vendor-supplied plastic stakes, and remember hearing a flying bit of one whizzing past my ear Hollywood-ricochet style once. That was shortly before i switched to bridge spikes, which don't break. Even if they are sometimes pure *#^$* to pull up.) Oh yeah? Well, I speak LOOOUD, and I carry a BEEEger stick -- and I use it too! **whop!** -- Yosemite Sam ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Is this thing on?
--- On Mon, 1/25/10, Julia ju...@zurg.net wrote: From: Julia ju...@zurg.net Subject: RE: Is this thing on? To: 'Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion' brin-l@mccmedia.com Date: Monday, January 25, 2010, 6:53 PM -Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Is this thing on? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. How's _it_ hangin' ? ___ I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging? (Of course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet, the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.) Julia ... I use mine to pound sense into my own head... Fortunately... I haven't come across much lately ... though the Ultilikilt is well-made and stylish... I really enjoy a long skirt myself... I wish sundresses for men were in vogue.. ... more about kilts... -Leonard ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Is this thing on?
-Original Message- From: brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com [mailto:brin-l-boun...@mccmedia.com] On Behalf Of John Williams Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 6:44 PM To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion Subject: Re: Is this thing on? On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. How's _it_ hangin' ? ___ I love wearing a Workman model Utilikilt and sticking a hammer in the tool loop, just so *I* can answer the question, How's the hammer hanging? (Of course, it doesn't happen often, and is more likely to be a rubber mallet, the sort that's useful for pounding tent stakes into the ground.) Julia ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 6:43 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. How's _it_ hangin' ? I'm a little surprised no one has posted ASL? yet on this thread... -- Mauro Diotallevi The number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again. ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
RE: Is this thing on?
On Stardate 20100121.2342, Wayne Eddy wrote: Say something about the free market and how or bad it is and that should fire up the list! Nah, for real fireworks you'd have to start a Palestinians good, Israel evil discussion. Or launch the next Abortion Is Evil thread. EVIL GRIN Jeroen Been there, done that van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
I believe the exact phrasing is: The free market is evil: why it should be eradicated On Jan 22, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: On Stardate 20100121.2342, Wayne Eddy wrote: Say something about the free market and how or bad it is and that should fire up the list! Nah, for real fireworks you'd have to start a Palestinians good, Israel evil discussion. Or launch the next Abortion Is Evil thread. EVIL GRIN Jeroen Been there, done that van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
Say something about the free market and how good or bad it is and that should fire up the list! On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Jeroen van Baardwijk jer...@brin-l.netwrote: taps on microphone Is this thing on? /tapping Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was? Jeroen van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
No. Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: taps on microphone Is this thing on? /tapping Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was? Jeroen van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
_It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. Dave On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Trent Shipley wrote: No. Jeroen van Baardwijk wrote: taps on microphone Is this thing on? /tapping Is this silence (no messages for several days) caused by technical issues, or is Brin-L no longer the high-volume list is once was? Jeroen van Baardwijk -- Wonderful World of Brin-L Website: www.brin-l.com Alliance for Progress Encyclopedia: www.brin-l.com/a4p ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Dave Land dml...@gmail.com wrote: _It_ is on, but nobody is on _it_. How's _it_ hangin' ? ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
Doug Pensinger wrote: Alberto wrote: The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this is an evil thing that should be eradicated. Why is it evil, out of curiosity? Because it screws up the format of the message. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
On Apr 2, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Doug Pensinger wrote: Alberto wrote: The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this is an evil thing that should be eradicated. Why is it evil, out of curiosity? Because it screws up the format of the message. As in the following, received as the first lines of an email from a client: !-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Tahoma; panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4; mso-font-charset:0; mso-generic-font- family:swiss; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;} @font-face {font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; panose-1:3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1; mso-font-charset:0; mso- generic-font-family:script; mso-font-pitch:variable; mso-font- signature:3 0 0 0 1 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {mso-style-parent:; margin:0in; margin- bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font- family:Times New Roman; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text- decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline; text-underline:single;} p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso- pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Courier New; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;} p {mso-margin-top- alt:auto; margin-right:0in; mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto; margin-left: 0in; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:12.0pt; font- family:Times New Roman; mso-fareast-font-family:Times New Roman;} span.EmailStyle18 {mso-style-type:personal; mso-style- noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:11.0pt; mso-bidi-font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma; mso-hansi-font- family:Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma; color:windowtext; mso- text-animation:none; font-weight:normal; font-style:normal; text- decoration:none; text-underline:none; text-decoration:none; text- line-through:none;} span.EmailStyle19 {mso-style-type:personal- reply; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-ansi-font-size:11.0pt; mso-bidi- font-size:11.0pt; font-family:Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family:Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family:Tahoma; color:black; font-weight:normal; font- style:normal; text-decoration:none; text-underline:none; text- decoration:none; text-line-through:none;} span.GramE {mso-style- name:; mso-gram-e:yes;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; mso-header-margin:.5in; mso-footer- margin:.5in; mso-paper-source:0;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} -- Not so useful. Dave ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
Nick Arnett moderated: I woke up this morning wondering if moving the Brin-L list to Bluehost has somehow killed it... because I realized that I'm not getting any messages, only digests. This is weird. The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this is an evil thing that should be eradicated. I'd ask if anybody else hasn't been getting list mail, but, well, you know. You can just send one message to the list and add in the BCC: field a list of subscribers. Then ask if anyone received it just once. As list-overlord you have this list, don't you? Alberto Monteiro ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Alberto Monteiro albm...@centroin.com.brwrote: You can just send one message to the list and add in the BCC: field a list of subscribers. Then ask if anyone received it just once. As list-overlord you have this list, don't you? Ah, I actually received this, after switching settings around. One of the rotten things about using a hosted mailing list service is that there's no simple way to get the subscriber list. Nick ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: Is this thing on?
Alberto wrote: The move was transparent to me - as far as receiving goes. OTOH, it seems that the list now encourages html-e-mail, and this is an evil thing that should be eradicated. Why is it evil, out of curiosity? Doug ___ http://mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l_mccmedia.com
Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)
On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and Welcome home. I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet. Perhaps it seems absurd to thank people for serving in a war I oppose, but life is absurd. Good people serve, are hurt and die, in wrong wars. Such an important point that it is vital to remember. The soldiers are doing a job they believe in and most are doing the best they can on behalf of our various countries, even if the task they're currently doing is one we (and many of them) think is wrong. Charlie ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The real thing (was Re: The Continuing Saga of BD...)
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:23:23 +1000, Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 3, 2006, at 3:43 AM, Nick Arnett wrote: Among my first words to him were, Thank you for serving, and Welcome home. I try to remember to say that to every vet I meet. Perhaps it seems absurd to thank people for serving in a war I oppose, but life is absurd. Good people serve, are hurt and die, in wrong wars. Such an important point that it is vital to remember. The soldiers are doing a job they believe in and most are doing the best they can on behalf of our various countries, even if the task they're currently doing is one we (and many of them) think is wrong. And something we here in the U.S. did such a poor job of after Vietnam. We (in general) had this Universal Soldier* attitude even though most of the kids that had been over there had no (legal) say in the matter. We made such a mess of that war it's hard to believe that we've become entangled again so soon afterwards. -- Doug *Universal Soldier by Donovan He's five foot-two, and he's six feet-four, He fights with missiles and with spears. He's all of thirty-one, and he's only seventeen, Been a soldier for a thousand years. He'a a Catholic, a Hindu, an Atheist, a Jain, A Buddhist and a Baptist and a Jew. And he knows he shouldn't kill, And he knows he always will, Kill you for me my friend and me for you. And he's fighting for Canada, He's fighting for France, He's fighting for the USA, And he's fighting for the Russians, And he's fighting for Japan, And he thinks we'll put an end to war this way. And he's fighting for Democracy, He's fighting for the Reds, He says it's for the peace of all. He's the one who must decide, Who's to live and who's to die, And he never sees the writing on the wall. But without him, How would Hitler have condemned him at Dachau? Without him Caesar would have stood alone, He's the one who gives his body As a weapon of the war, And without him all this killing can't go on. He's the Universal Soldier and he really is to blame, His orders come from far away no more, They come from here and there and you and me, And brothers can't you see, This is not the way we put the end to war. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fw: Good thing you guys have express shipping...!
Horn, John wrote: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764508865/002-0326109-1351274?v=gl ancen=283155n=507846s=booksv=glance OR http://tinyurl.com/avtk7 Scroll down to the review by Harriet M (shh!) Uh, that's NOT how they say stare decisis in Texas. Unless UT pronounces things differently from SMU. :) (I took a business law course at one point) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: The Worst Thing Nixon Ever Did
On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:06:54 -0700, Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote quoting http://www.techcentralstation.com/041504I.html ~~~ Doug, DDT was banned in the United States for obvious reasons and all but a few have hailed that decision. Those few are now getting funding from anti-government think tanks and some corporate sponsors. Tech Central Station, a fake news and opinion outlet supported by corporations it writes opinions for, is now paid to be against the DDT ban. TCS receives funding based on PR campaigns it undertakes for clients. For more on Tech Central Station see Meet the Press - How James Glassman reinvented journalism--as lobbying. http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.confessore.html DDT use was already in decline in the US because of increased insect resistance. DDT (dichlorodiphenyltrichlorethane) killed many beneficial insects, birds, and aquatic animals not just malarial mosquitoes and it presents a carcinogenic risk to humans, DDT is a persistent chemical it does not break down but increasing builds up, particularly as it moves up the food chain. During the 1950s and 1960s several species of birds, including osprey, cormorant, brown pelican, bald eagle, prairie falcon, sparrow hawk, and peregrine falcon, were severely effected the pesticide DDT. A chemical derived from the DDT weakened the egg shells of these birds, reducing their ability to reproduce. From a Bush government website: How can DDT, DDE, and DDD affect my health? DDT affects the nervous system. People who accidentally swallowed large amounts of DDT became excitable and had tremors and seizures. These effects went away after the exposure stopped. No effects were seen in people who took small daily doses of DDT by capsule for 18 months. A study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of a form of DDE in their breast milk were unable to breast feed their babies for as long as women who had little DDE in the breast milk. Another study in humans showed that women who had high amounts of DDE in breast milk had an increased chance of having premature babies. In animals, short-term exposure to large amounts of DDT in food affected the nervous system, while long-term exposure to smaller amounts affected the liver. Also in animals, short-term oral exposure to small amounts of DDT or its breakdown products may also have harmful effects on reproduction. How likely are DDT, DDE, and DDD to cause cancer? Studies in DDT-exposed workers did not show increases in cancer. Studies in animals given DDT with the food have shown that DDT can cause liver cancer. The Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) determined that DDT may reasonable be anticipated to be a human carcinogen. The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) determined that DDT may possibly cause cancer in humans. The EPA determined that DDT, DDE, and DDD are probable human carcinogens. http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts35.html DDT is NOT banned now for control of malaria in most of the rest of the world. This recent campaign against regulation of DDT has evidently been started by companies making DDT because the United Nations has recently recommended a ban on all uses of DDT except for malaria control. This malaria organization wants to get rid of DDT, but not until a cheap effective replacement is found and may clarify some issues. http://www.malaria.org/DDTpage.html #1 on google for liberal news ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Is this thing on?
It appears that the server was acting up, though I can't quite see what happened. For now, at least, it seems to be back to normal. -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l