On 1 Nov 2004, Ruben Krasnopolsky asked
What's the big deal with a national ID card?
The various responses cited consequences within people's personal
experience, such as carrying a driver's license that cannot be
authenticated by police, or using one to identify oneself as a voter.
Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
Um, what about the suggestions some have made of having your medical
records stored in the National Health Care Database and every time you
go to buy food, it checks and if you are overweight, have diabetes,
high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or anything else, you
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 10:24:21PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
This is becoming common at school canteens here (Parents get to say
what categories of food kids can buy, or apply limits (eg 1 coke per
day or whatever)), and they can't buy anything without swiping their
student card...
What
On Nov 3, 2004, at 4:46 AM, Erik Reuter wrote:
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 10:24:21PM +1000, Russell Chapman wrote:
This is becoming common at school canteens here (Parents get to say
what categories of food kids can buy, or apply limits (eg 1 coke per
day or whatever)), and they can't buy anything
Ruben Krasnopolsky wrote:
What's the big deal with a national ID card?
It's stupid and 20thcenturish.
The right thing to do is to create a World Name Database, and enforce
that every child's name is unique. Then forget about numeric IDs
and just use the registered name
Alberto Monteiro
What's the big deal with a national ID card?
It would prevent voting fraud.
It would help transparency in many other ways - So, why not?
Well, I guess it can be used for government control, and not
always in benign ways. True enough.
But right now there *are* many ways for the government
On Tue, Nov 02, 2004 at 12:22:20PM -0500, Gary Nunn wrote:
A national ID card sounds like a good idea in theory, but the
technology is nowhere near reliable enough to make this a reliable
system.
Not true. The technology for a distributed, redundant, fault-tolerant
system defintely exists.
Gary Nunn wrote:
Imagine this, all citizens have a federal ID card. To make it secure and
worthwhile, it must be verified by a centralized authority (if not, what's
the point, anyone could forge a fake?) You go to buy something at the
store, or renew your license, or get medical treatment, and
On Nov 2, 2004, at 9:22 AM, Gary Nunn wrote:
What's the big deal with a national ID card?
It would prevent voting fraud.
It would help transparency in many other ways - So, why not?
Here is the problem with a national ID card.
It would not be impossible to forge a card, but it would
be
Not true. The technology for a distributed, redundant,
fault-tolerant system definitely exists. Look at, for example,
the Internet domain name server (DNS) system. Or google.com.
The problem is whether people are willing to spend the time
and resources necessary to design, set up, and
Serious comment, now . . .
At 12:08 PM Tuesday 11/2/04, Dave Land wrote:
On Nov 2, 2004, at 9:22 AM, Gary Nunn wrote:
What's the big deal with a national ID card?
It would prevent voting fraud.
It would help transparency in many other ways - So, why not?
Here is the problem with a national ID
At 12:08 PM Tuesday 11/2/04, Dave Land wrote:
The one think they have going for them is that they are promoting a
federated, rather than centralized, authority model. That way, you'd only
be prevented from purchasing paw-paws at Kroger's if the store's network
was down. You could always go down
Ruben wrote
I respectfully disagree that this technical point kills the idea.
WHAT? Didn't anyone tell you that when you disagree on this list that
you have to be abrasive and condescending? Hey don't go disrupting the
natural order of the Brin-L universe, other people might follow
Dave wrote...
Why would this be the case? I don't have to show any ID to
buy groceries now... Do you think that the mere existence of
a national ID would change how we do all business? Would
I have to have my ID verified to buy a hot dog from the
vendor at a ball game? Would I even go
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