RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Marvin Long, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Geen Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Official Statement IMO, an offlist offense that a) targets the server itself, or b) targets the membership of the list via bcc and/or forged headers,

Re: inches are evil, why they must be eradicated

2002-12-12 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Doug wrote: I don't think Alberto particularly cares weather or not it's a good approximation. Au contraire. I want to get a good approximation to convert the only thing that is sold in inches to civilized units. And 1 TV-inch = 2 cm, with an error 1% Of course, if I convert some body parts

RE: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court

2002-12-12 Thread J . v . Baardwijk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jon Gabriel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 11 december 2002 20:24 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court What about posession of child pornography? Do you think that it should be

Re: inches are evil, why they must be eradicated

2002-12-12 Thread Erik Reuter
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:52:11AM -, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Au contraire. I want to get a good approximation to convert the only thing that is sold in inches to civilized units. And 1 TV-inch = 2 cm, with an error 1% Actually, that error is closer to 1.6%, which would round up to 2%.

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... As for forging headers by changing the Reply-To address, I don't consider that an offense; the return address is clearly visible in the From: field of the incoming message as

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One still needs to consider whether the off-list activity would constitute an offense. FREX, sending messages off-list because one is not allowed to post on-list would not necessarily be an offense (IMO, that would depend more on the content than

Irregulars question: Number of characters in a cell in Excel

2002-12-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
Is there a way to have Excel tell me the number of characters including spaces in a cell? For example, row 1 column B might have: utl-dbg4-emer ntly cls (not including the quotation marks) and row 1 column C would show that this has 22 characters. It seems like this would be a simple thing to

Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court

2002-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
on 11/12/02 6:47 pm, Dan Minette at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What was the reason for making this distinction? I'm still not clear why the slightly sloppy reference to freedom of the press as freedom of speech in publishing needs to be corrected in quite that manner. Why not say technically

Re: Irregulars question: Number of characters in a cell in Excel

2002-12-12 Thread freewire1
LEN(B1) in cell C1 (as in your example) will do it. I just tried it with your example and it returned 22. On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 10:26:46 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: Is there a way to have Excel tell me the number of characters including spaces in a cell? For example, row 1 column B might

Re: Irregulars question: Number of characters in a cell in Excel

2002-12-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LEN(B1) in cell C1 (as in your example) will do it. I just tried it with your example and it returned 22. THANK YOU! I search under a whole bunch of different terms, but for some reason length never occurred to me... Thank you again, very much. Reggie Bautista

Re: Irregulars question: Number of characters in a cell in Excel

2002-12-12 Thread freewire1
No problem. I have just spent the last 2 hours myself working on a problem that wasn't really there. Better get our tinfoil hats on. :) Dean On Thu, 12 Dec 2002 11:54:16 -0600, Reggie Bautista wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LEN(B1) in cell C1 (as in your example) will do it. I just tried it

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Gabriel Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:39 AM ... Nick, where and why would forging headers be outlawed? I'm not exactly up on net law, but this is the first I've heard of it? Have there

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 05:41 12-12-2002 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote: __ As for forging headers by changing the Reply-To address, I don't consider that an offense; the return address is clearly visible in the From: field of the incoming message

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 13:39 12-12-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: It's not immediately visible in Hotmail (at least not under the default headers viewer -- there are advanced headers you can read that would say.) You must be using an other Hotmail than the one I use, then (and I use the default settings). For

Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court

2002-12-12 Thread William T Goodall
on 11/12/02 7:00 pm, Jon Gabriel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /mini rant/ Although I have to say that I completely *loathe* OS X. Installed 'Jaguar' on my G4 dual processor at work along with a host of newly X-compliant apps and have never, ever seen so many application crashes. Adobe,

RE: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk ... Baloney. Setting Reply-To to an address for which you don't have permission *is* wrong and illegal in those places where forging headers has been outlawed. And your supporting

brin: sightings on tv.br

2002-12-12 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Yesterday I saw a Discovery program about aliens with an interview with David Brin. I have just watched the Dark Angel episode Cold Comfort, about a transgenic called Brin. And now I am watching the Season 4 E.R. episode, and Doctor Romano has just mentioned Dr Brin. Alberto Monteiro I guess I

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Richard Baker
Marvin said: Thank goodness for flexible mail filters, then. I was tricked by my filters several times. I'm used to thinking that anything in my Brin-L folder is from this list, but I was filtering on the To: field and ran into problems when Jeroen was sending to the Brin-L address and BCCing

Scouted: Investigation into Ariane-5 rocket explosion

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From CNN.COM: Investigation into rocket explosion Thursday, December 12, 2002 Posted: 12:05 PM EST (1705 GMT) Ariane-5 exploded three minutes after liftoff KOUROU, French Guiana -- An investigation will be held to discover why Europe's most powerful rocket crashed into the ocean shortly after

Scouted: Inhaled Hormones Offer Breast Cancer Alternative

2002-12-12 Thread Jon Gabriel
From Reuters.com Inhaled Hormones Offer Breast Cancer Alternative Thu December 12, 2002 02:23 PM ET By Maggie Fox, Health and Science Correspondent WASHINGTON (Reuters) - An inhaled hormone treatment may offer women at high risk of breast cancer an alternative to losing their breasts or

Re: Official Statement

2002-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson
Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Gabriel Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:39 AM ... Nick, where and why would forging headers be outlawed? I'm not exactly up on net law, but this is the first

Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Lalith Vipulananthan
After finally getting around to buying a Brin book (Kil'n People, which I picked because it looked intriguing and it was signed too!), I even managed to read it in the same month I bought it, which is more impressive when one considers that I have two hundred unread books that have been bought

RE: Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Horn, John
From: Lalith Vipulananthan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] The short version: I liked it! I liked it too. I'm sure I missed most of the puns and stuff. I'm always missing stuff like that. So, can Brin-L recommend some more Brin for me? ;) Ha! You asked for it now, Lal! _The Postman_ is in

Re: Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/12/2002 4:03:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After finally getting around to buying a Brin book (Kil'n People, which I picked because it looked intriguing and it was signed too!), At a used or new bookstore? I picked up my copy used. There

Re: Scouted: Investigation into Ariane-5 rocket explosion

2002-12-12 Thread Russell Chapman
Jon Gabriel wrote: Investigation into rocket explosion Ariane-5 exploded three minutes after liftoff KOUROU, French Guiana -- An investigation will be held to discover why Europe's most powerful rocket crashed into the ocean shortly after takeoff, officials said. Ariane-5, carrying two

Re: Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Julia Thompson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/12/2002 4:03:55 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: even managed to read it in the same month I bought it, which is more impressive when one considers that I have two hundred unread books that have been bought over

Re: Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 12/12/2002 5:08:44 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... I no longer trust our good Dr. Brin when it comes to names. Everything can be a pun or a reference. David assured me that he left some puns out, so it could have been worse,

Re: Internet Free Speech struck down by Australian court

2002-12-12 Thread The Fool
From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/12/02 7:00 pm, Jon Gabriel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /mini rant/ Although I have to say that I completely *loathe* OS X. Installed 'Jaguar' on my G4 dual processor at work along with a host of newly X-compliant apps and have never,

Re: Kil'n People

2002-12-12 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: Sheesh! That's the last time I say something like I think that's all he wrote without stopping to thing about it first... And of course, that should say without stopping to think about it first Some days... Reggie Bautista Nyarlathotep Strikes Again Maru

U.S. has photos of secret Iranian nuclear sites

2002-12-12 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/12/12/iran.nuclear/index.html The United States has evidence that Iran has secretly been constructing large nuclear facilities -- sites that could possibly be used to make nuclear weapons, senior U.S. officials tell CNN. Commercial satellite photographs taken