Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses

2012-12-02 Thread Klaus Stock
Of course, it would make sense to integrate water and wind plants, probably even using the wind turbines to power the pumps directly. But that's a problem with politics, not technology. I beg to differ. The obvious problem is geography. Pump storage is highly used in Switzerland, and they

Re: Power and civilization

2012-12-02 Thread Klaus Stock
Unfortunately, we already have surplus crop and other produce. In order to keep the price up, surplus is destroyed. I goggled for that in the US, and it referred to this happening during the Great Depression, when prices were so low during the deflationary era that it wasn't worth the cost

Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses

2012-12-02 Thread Keith Henson
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Dan Minette danmine...@att.net wrote: (Keith) If you have a better way to get humanity off fossil fuels, don't keep it to yourself. I have actions that, given historical precident, have a much better chance of suceeeding. Make a good case that it's cheaper

Re: Greens add to Greenhouse gasses

2012-12-02 Thread Kevin O'Brien
On 12/1/2012 6:36 PM, Dan Minette wrote: How is that going to happen. Are you arguing that the US will impose a carbon tax that is so high that we will be paying more in carbon taxes than fuel costs? Given the fact that we've been unable to raise the gas tax in decades, how will we impose a