Re: Sick Nick update (was RE: New List Admin)
Nick wrote: Big milestone today, I guess -- I drove. A friend gave me a ride up to Palo Alto, where I left my car last Wednesday (no room for it in the ambulance, apparently). Driving was unpleasant, though. Rapid head movements make me feel lousy. But I got to take flowers and chocolate to Cindy, Valentine's cards for her and the kids... and to thank several more people at the church for a card the whole staff sent me right after I got sick. I know it's only small steps, but I'm glad to hear you're starting to feel better. Reggie Bautista _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sick Nick update (was RE: New List Admin)
Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Gabriel ... The only exception has been when something threatens the server itself, and thus become somewhat personal to me. I have a hard time imagining any scenario other than an attack on the server that would lead me to act unilaterally. Natural Disaster? :-) Hope you're feeling better, Jon Big milestone today, I guess -- I drove. That *is* a big milestone. At least, that was a biggie a) as I was getting over morning sickness, and b) a few weeks after I'd given birth. When you've really been too sick to drive, that's a good indicator of being on the mend. Julia who was too sick to drive on Monday, but was able to drive a couple of tens of miles on Tuesday, no problem ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sick Nick update (was RE: New List Admin)
Nick Arnett wrote: Big milestone today, I guess -- I drove. A friend gave me a ride up to Palo Alto, where I left my car last Wednesday (no room for it in the ambulance, apparently). Driving was unpleasant, though. Rapid head movements make me feel lousy. But I got to take flowers and chocolate to Cindy, Valentine's cards for her and the kids... and to thank several more people at the church for a card the whole staff sent me right after I got sick. Glad to hear you're felling better, Nick. By chance, would the TB you ate at be on the west side of El Camino south of Page Mill? Doug GSV Occasional Customer ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Sick Nick update (was RE: New List Admin)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Pensinger ... By chance, would the TB you ate at be on the west side of El Camino south of Page Mill? No, it's in Santa Clara. But you can check health department records on-line, to see what kind of violations any restaurant in the county has had. *Now* I know this. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a lot more yucky feeling and tired today than I would have expected. This certainly hasn't been a steady upward recovery. More of an upward roller-coaster. At least you're not being cured by Dr. Kellogg's methods. Oh, eeuww. What a disgusting thought. But then I've actually met people who believed in coffee enemas, wheat grass juice enemas...Boulder (CO) has some over-the-edge folks. Not a patch on Sedona, AZ, though...? It's An *Eliminatory* Orifice Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 2/12/2003 2:38:37 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not a patch on Sedona, AZ, though...? So that's how the groove in Slide Rock was formed! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 2/11/03 5:44:26 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a lot more yucky feeling and tired today than I would have expected. This certainly hasn't been a steady upward recovery. More of an upward roller-coaster. Thanks, everyone, for your thoughts. Nick At least you're not being cured by Dr. Kellogg's methods. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sick Nick
Nick wrote: Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train just as a meeting was starting. [snip] Definitely sorry to hear that, best wishes for a speedy recovery. Reggie Bautista _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Sick Nick
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Julia Thompson ... Oh, and if you're pretty sure that's the place you got it from, tell your doctor. Could be a public health issue, and if so, they could probably use every data point they can get. If the tests show it's E coli (the nasty kind that causes hemorrhagic colitis, as Doc Harrell mentioned), the hospital *has* to report it to the health department. And then, as I understand it, they can almost always trace it back to the meatpacking plant where it originated (assuming it's from hamburger, as it usually is). They trace it by DNA analysis. So if it is E coli, I'll probably find out exactly where I got it. Right now, since there's no definitive diagnosis or identification of a pathogen, and mostly because I'm real, real tired, I'm not worrying about it yet. But I am quite concerned because we sometimes get food at the same restaurant for our grandchildren, and I'm afraid that if they had eaten what I ate, they might have died or lost their kidneys. If it takes a personal injury suit to put pressure on the company to cook the damn meat, then that's what we'll do, since other people will buy food for their kids there, even if we never do again. And I wouldn't want anybody to have to go through what I did. Back to bed now, I think... but I'll add that it's nice to be able to communicate so easily with a bunch of folks even while I'm knocked down. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 08:22 AM 2/6/03 -0800, you wrote: Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train just as a meeting was starting. (Overheard in the ER corridor) Nurse 1 to Nurse 2: Don't you agree the patient in Exam 1 has acute abdomen? So, do you work out or something? Hope You Are Feeling Better Maru -- Ronn! :) Almighty Ruler of the all, Whose Power extends to great and small, Who guides the stars with steadfast law, Whose least creation fills with awe, O grant thy mercy and thy grace, To those who venture into space. (Robert A. Heinlein's added verse to the Navy Hymn) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Sick Nick
:( Ack. Hope it's something simple and that you feel better immediately. Jon From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sick Nick Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 08:22:26 -0800 Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train just as a meeting was starting. They not sure what it was, but I still feel really lousy. Supposed to see my primary care doc today. Luckily, the ER and my doc are only a few blocks away. Was a pretty scary day, continuous pain of 6-7 on scale of 1-10, with two or three waves a minute that were up to 9. Thank God for morphine - first time I've had it. Never so much pain for so long. Never anything even close. Never found the inside of an ambulance so reassuing to *me* -- it brought back good memories of all the people I had reassured from the other side of the stretcher. Would really, really like to know what's going on, but I guess half of these situations never are diagnosed, they just go away. Leading candidates were appendicitis and kidney stone, but not clear enough symptoms to open me up. So, I'll be mostly MIA for a while. Julia has the helm, knows the backup person (though he's been with me through most of this). Resolve all petty conflicts while I'm away, please, and discuss the important stuff with patience and wisdom. Nothing like wondering if you're gonna surive to put things in perspective. Sick Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train... Would really, really like to know what's going on, but I guess half of these situations never are diagnosed, they just go away. Leading candidates were appendicitis and kidney stone, but not clear enough symptoms to open me up. Passing a gallstone can do pretty much the same thing. So, I'll be mostly MIA for a while... Resolve all petty conflicts while I'm away, please, and discuss the important stuff with patience and wisdom. grin Yey, verily yea! Good to see your sense of humor's working. Nothing like wondering if you're gonna surive to put things in perspective. Wonderfully concentrating, isn't it? wry smile I'll ask my cats to scan you (they have that interdimensional psychic epiphenomenon thing, you know)... Health! The Pellet With The Poison's In The Flagon With The Dragon Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Arnett wrote: So, I'll be mostly MIA for a while. Julia has the helm, knows the backup person (though he's been with me through most of this). Abdominal pain requiring morphine trumps sick kid giving cold to Mommy and Mommy running on a 2-hr/night sleep deficit. If I don't get back to you promptly on a list matter, please be patient. Julia hoping to unwind enough in the next 30 minutes to be able to go to sleep for a bit, as long as Sammy's down for a nap ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Deborah wrote The Pellet With The Poison's In The Flagon With The Dragon Maru You laid awake at night to think that one up didn't you? ;-) Gary Cold medicine cuts my IQ in half Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Gary L. Nunn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Deborah wrote The Pellet With The Poison's In The Flagon With The Dragon Maru You laid awake at night to think that one up didn't you? ;-) gasp Is it possible that you haven't seen the genius of Danny Kaye in _The Court Jester_? In which there are some of the finest scenes of whistling, evil witches, bumbling - expert fencing, and drilling knights?! Fie, sir - get thee to a video rental emporium, and partake of the utter silliness of this musical! ;) The Chalice From The Palace Has The Brew That Is True Maru __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Gary wrote: Deborah wrote The Pellet With The Poison's In The Flagon With The Dragon Maru You laid awake at night to think that one up didn't you? ;-) Watching AMC or TCM perhaps? O-Kaye then... ;-) Sean But which was the brew that was true? I swear... I was about to hit send when Debbi's email came in... ;-) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Sean Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip O-Kaye then... ;-) But which was the brew that was true? And what will happen if they break the Chalice From The Palace? (Or is it the chalice with the *figure* of a palace...?) GSV Pestle __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ouuuch! Get better! Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 12:28 PM 2/6/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: I'll ask my cats to scan you (they have that interdimensional psychic epiphenomenon thing, you know)... Health! And then send him a bill for $1000 for a cat scan . . . Gets Them Free All The Time, But The Results Are Always Humans Are Pitifully Dumb Maru --Ronn! :) , D.J. =^.^= , and Midnight =^.^= , Spot (1992-96), and Andy (1989-99) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 2/6/2003 6:04:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Deborah wrote The Pellet With The Poison's In The Flagon With The Dragon Maru You laid awake at night to think that one up didn't you? ;-) Gary As I was going to write: Gary, Gary, Gary. You MUST go out and rent the movie The Court Jester. I see everyone else has already. Now I think I want Gary to answer: Get it? Got it. Good. William Taylor Even when you see the wires and the metal sawhorses, it's good. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: Sick Nick Spent from 1:20 yesterday afternoon to about 8 p.m. in the E.R. with an acute abdomen that hit me like a freight train just as a meeting was starting. They not sure what it was, but I still feel really lousy. Supposed to see my primary care doc today. Luckily, the ER and my doc are only a few blocks away. Was a pretty scary day, continuous pain of 6-7 on scale of 1-10, with two or three waves a minute that were up to 9. Thank God for morphine - first time I've had it. Never so much pain for so long. Never anything even close. Never found the inside of an ambulance so reassuing to *me* -- it brought back good memories of all the people I had reassured from the other side of the stretcher. Would really, really like to know what's going on, but I guess half of these situations never are diagnosed, they just go away. Leading candidates were appendicitis and kidney stone, but not clear enough symptoms to open me up. So, I'll be mostly MIA for a while. Julia has the helm, knows the backup person (though he's been with me through most of this). Resolve all petty conflicts while I'm away, please, and discuss the important stuff with patience and wisdom. Nothing like wondering if you're gonna surive to put things in perspective. Sick Nick OUCH I had a kidney stone 14 months ago or so. It hit me in 2 waves about 2 months apart. The first episode started about the time I would normally have gone to bed and kept me up the entire night. I could feel that sucker as it took its sweet time travelling from my kidney to my bladder, all sharp pains and burning. It was pretty bad and left me feeling weak for days. A couple of months later at about 4 am one saturday morning I decided to pass that sucker. It was 8 hours of the most intense pain I have ever experienced completed by hours of dry heaves and fever. I slept in an emergency room with IVs in my arm. The most expensive nap I have ever taken. When I finally passed the stone, it was tiny. Hard to believe something so small could bring you down so easily. xponent I Gave Birth To A Rock Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Sick Nick
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Deborah Harrell ... Wonderfully concentrating, isn't it? wry smile I'll ask my cats to scan you (they have that interdimensional psychic epiphenomenon thing, you know)... Health! If I need a cat scan, I'll let you know. Below is some stuff that the sqeamish might want to skip. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Still very miserable, but today better than yesterday. My primary care doc suspects colitis; he's got me on Cipro and Metronidazole, plus the ever-thrilling BRAT diet. Had an ultrasound, too, lots of blood draws and goody, goody, I get to collect stool samples. (And now the part not for the squeamish.) But that's mostly just blood, which the doc said is a result of unhappy membranes in my lower intestine. Some very brief reading (I'm mostly resting, sleeping when I can) suggests that this might be good old E. coli causing hemorrhagic colitis. Since Cindy and I, or my best friend and I, have eaten the same stuff for the last week or so, I suspect the one meal I had alone, from a certain fast-food place last Sunday, who I probably shouldn't name but its initials are TB. I've spent weeks in Mexico without getting sick, ironically. My doc says that in 24 hours I should feel a lot better and be good in a week. Any thoughts? Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Arnett wrote: Any thoughts? Best wishes for a speedy recovery, Nick. Doug Who thinks it must be a good sign that you are posting to the list despite your troubles. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Nick Arnett wrote: Below is some stuff that the sqeamish might want to skip. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Still very miserable, but today better than yesterday. My primary care doc suspects colitis; he's got me on Cipro and Metronidazole, plus the ever-thrilling BRAT diet. BRAT? Can you elaborate, or at least expand? Had an ultrasound, too, lots of blood draws and goody, goody, I get to collect stool samples. (And now the part not for the squeamish.) But that's mostly just blood, which the doc said is a result of unhappy membranes in my lower intestine. Some very brief reading (I'm mostly resting, sleeping when I can) suggests that this might be good old E. coli causing hemorrhagic colitis. Since Cindy and I, or my best friend and I, have eaten the same stuff for the last week or so, I suspect the one meal I had alone, from a certain fast-food place last Sunday, who I probably shouldn't name but its initials are TB. I've spent weeks in Mexico without getting sick, ironically. My doc says that in 24 hours I should feel a lot better and be good in a week. Any thoughts? I have a friend who regularly stops getting food at the certain establishment for a couple of months. (I think her problem is that onions get into things that onions aren't supposed to be in, though.) The worst case of food poisoning from a fast-food establishment that I've heard of any of my close friends getting was from a different chain, initial W. Between that and the fact that their apple pies are fried, not baked, I tend to avoid them. I'm guessing that you're likely to avoid the fast-food place you mention for quite awhile now. Oh, and if you're pretty sure that's the place you got it from, tell your doctor. Could be a public health issue, and if so, they could probably use every data point they can get. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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--- Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snippage Still very miserable, but today better than yesterday. My primary care doc suspects colitis; he's got me on Cipro and Metronidazole, plus the ever-thrilling BRAT diet... snipped icky parts :P Some very brief reading (I'm mostly resting, sleeping when I can) suggests that this might be good old E. coli causing hemorrhagic colitis... My doc says that in 24 hours I should feel a lot better and be good in a week. Any thoughts? Very possible (E. coli O157:H7), although I wonder if your doc suspects another bug/problem, given the use of antibiotics, which is not absolutely indicated in the case of E. coli O157:H7. Here are 2 sites - the CDC has both general and technical pages; WebMD is more geared for the public (has a lot of useful info). http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/escherichiacoli_g.htm#Top http://my.webmd.com/content/healthwise/96/23889 Won't say I hope you're up and running soon... ;) Debbi __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
