Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick

Congratulations!

When are you going back in for your General and/or Extra?  ;)

-de N5VB, EM10gi  (might at some indeterminate point in the future be  
up on 20 meter PSK31, but for now is stuck on 2m/440 FM repeaters,  
fortunately accessible via IRLP)


On Feb 25, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:

Permission to brag, er, share good news?  Since we're all somewhat  
geeky here, I'm happy to report that the Federal Communications  
Commission, in its infinite wisdom, bestowed upon me the amateur  
radio callsign KJ6FOI (mnemonic: Freedom of Information) today,  
after I passed the Technician Class test last Saturday.


On this one we'd like to think of ourselves collectively as 'da men',  
sir. -- Toby Ziegler





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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Williams wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com  
wrote:

However, some of
the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only.


Right, the masochist channels  :-)  Or, perhaps, the apocalypse
practice channels.


It's a bandwidth thing.  :D  There are digital modes (like PSK31) that  
are legal in the code bands due to their narrow bandwidth (assuming  
your radio's mike isn't live and modulating audio over your PSK  
signal), and you would not believe how many CW signals can fit  
comfortably into just a few hundred Hz of spectrum.  Plus, you can get  
out on HF with a couple of 50 cent transistors, an Altoids tin, and  
maybe a 9 volt battery if you set up your antenna and feedline  
right.  ;)





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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Williams wrote:

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com  
wrote:

However, some of
the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only.


Right, the masochist channels  :-)  Or, perhaps, the apocalypse
practice channels.


There's actually an interesting tangent here, by the way, on the  
subject of single sideband (SSB) reception and transmission.  SSB  
effectively translates a slice of spectrum either up from or down to  
audio baseband more or less intact (inverted in the case of LSB), and  
it's amazing what your ears can learn to figure out just from what you  
hear in that slice of spectrum, especially with tuning up and down the  
dial.


And the possibilities only multiply when you feed that audio from the  
radio into, say, the sound card of a computer, and vice versa.   
DigiPan is only one of a nearly infinite number of possible examples  
of that.  All the DSP capability of your computer interfaced quite  
elegantly with that old Hallicrafters tube rig from the attic and  
maybe an audio interface with an audio-triggered transmit relay.  I  
don't know about you, but I find that thought rather exciting.  :D


(And an interesting experiment: Feed the I and Q outputs of a  
quadrature detector to a pair of stereo headphones.  Apparently the  
brain's auditory cortex is wired in a way that takes unique advantage  
of that format.  And you're literally *listening to signals on the  
complex plane*.  What's not cool about that?)




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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Bostwick
lihan161...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 Congratulations!

 When are you going back in for your General and/or Extra?  ;)


The examiners tried to talk me into doing the General immediately, but I
didn't.  I'm not sure when or if I will... I'll be quite happy on VHF, I
think, but we'll see.



 -de N5VB, EM10gi  (might at some indeterminate point in the future be up on
 20 meter PSK31, but for now is stuck on 2m/440 FM repeaters, fortunately
 accessible via IRLP)


I just set myself up on EchoLink, but I haven't explored IRLP yet.

Nick
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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Nick Arnett
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:36 AM, Bruce Bostwick
lihan161...@sbcglobal.netwrote:

 On Feb 25, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John Williams wrote:

  On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 However, some of
 the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only.


 Right, the masochist channels  :-)  Or, perhaps, the apocalypse
 practice channels.


 There's actually an interesting tangent here, by the way, on the subject of
 single sideband (SSB) reception and transmission.  SSB effectively
 translates a slice of spectrum either up from or down to audio baseband more
 or less intact (inverted in the case of LSB), and it's amazing what your
 ears can learn to figure out just from what you hear in that slice of
 spectrum, especially with tuning up and down the dial.

 And the possibilities only multiply when you feed that audio from the radio
 into, say, the sound card of a computer, and vice versa.  DigiPan is only
 one of a nearly infinite number of possible examples of that.  All the DSP
 capability of your computer interfaced quite elegantly with that old
 Hallicrafters tube rig from the attic and maybe an audio interface with an
 audio-triggered transmit relay.  I don't know about you, but I find that
 thought rather exciting.  :D


Wowza... just read a little about DigiPan.  Amazing.  Personal computers
sure have transformed amateur radio from when I first got interested.  I
think the first time I ever encountered it at all was in 1968, when my older
sister was an exchange student in Columbia and we talked to her via HF at
the University of Pittsburgh's radio club.  I remember it sort of freaking
out my younger sister, the one who died last month.  She was only six or
seven years old and found the whole thing scary.  They patched the audio
into a telephone handset and that helped her deal with it.

(And an interesting experiment: Feed the I and Q outputs of a quadrature
 detector to a pair of stereo headphones.  Apparently the brain's auditory
 cortex is wired in a way that takes unique advantage of that format.  And
 you're literally *listening to signals on the complex plane*.  What's not
 cool about that?


It must be very cool, since don't quite understand what you're saying.  ;-)

Nick
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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:29 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:

On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Bruce Bostwick lihan161...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:

Congratulations!

When are you going back in for your General and/or Extra?  ;)

The examiners tried to talk me into doing the General immediately,  
but I didn't.  I'm not sure when or if I will... I'll be quite happy  
on VHF, I think, but we'll see.


You only pay for the first one.  :D

That's how I came out of my last VE session an Extra instead of a  
General.  Hadn't studied for the Extra, but they talked me into taking  
it anyway, because it was free since I had passed the previous one and  
there was nothing to lose, and i ended up bashing through it and  
getting most of the how many degrees will this LC network rotate the  
phase of this signal questions right, or at least enough to pass.   
Possibly luck.  But I got to sign /AE after the test session.


You'll be happy on VHF for a while, but there are a lot of adventures  
to be had on HF too, and you need at least a General to work 20  
meters ..




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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-26 Thread Bruce Bostwick

On Feb 26, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Nick Arnett wrote:

And the possibilities only multiply when you feed that audio from  
the radio into, say, the sound card of a computer, and vice versa.   
DigiPan is only one of a nearly infinite number of possible examples  
of that.  All the DSP capability of your computer interfaced quite  
elegantly with that old Hallicrafters tube rig from the attic and  
maybe an audio interface with an audio-triggered transmit relay.  I  
don't know about you, but I find that thought rather exciting.  :D


Wowza... just read a little about DigiPan.  Amazing.  Personal  
computers sure have transformed amateur radio from when I first got  
interested.


They've totally transformed it, in many ways.  And with DSP only  
improving with time, we've probably only scratched the surface of what  
can be done along those lines.  http://gnuradio.org/redmine/wiki/gnuradio 
 might give you some ideas.


I think the first time I ever encountered it at all was in 1968,  
when my older sister was an exchange student in Columbia and we  
talked to her via HF at the University of Pittsburgh's radio club.   
I remember it sort of freaking out my younger sister, the one who  
died last month.  She was only six or seven years old and found the  
whole thing scary.  They patched the audio into a telephone handset  
and that helped her deal with it.


And yes, there are still places cellphones won't work and phone  
patches still play a role.  Not as big a role now as they used to  
(especially on VHF/UHF repeaters) but there are places they're still  
hard to replace.  Especially in disaster recovery.


(And an interesting experiment: Feed the I and Q outputs of a  
quadrature detector to a pair of stereo headphones.  Apparently the  
brain's auditory cortex is wired in a way that takes unique  
advantage of that format.  And you're literally *listening to  
signals on the complex plane*.  What's not cool about that?


It must be very cool, since don't quite understand what you're  
saying.  ;-)


I'm trying to remember which issue of QST I saw it in.  The effect is  
basically stereo single sideband, and signals appear to come from  
various points around your auditory horizon, making them much easier  
to isolate than they are if you're listening to a straight detector  
output in both ears.  Haven't heard much about it since then, but it  
was quite fascinating when I saw it.  The term they used was  
panoramic reception, I think.


Listen, when you get home tonight, you're gonna be confronted by the  
instinct to drink a lot. Trust that instinct. Manage the pain. Don't  
try to be a hero. -- Toby Ziegler




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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-25 Thread Lance A. Brown
Cool!  Congratulations!

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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-25 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:

 This is something I've been thinking of doing for decades.  When I started,
 one of the obstacles was learning code at 5 wpm, which I accomplished.

Did you want to learn Morse code?

When I got my license year's ago (haven't used it in a while), there
was a no code technician license.

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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-25 Thread Nick Arnett
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:34 PM, John Williams jwilliams4...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  This is something I've been thinking of doing for decades.  When I
 started,
  one of the obstacles was learning code at 5 wpm, which I accomplished.

 Did you want to learn Morse code?

 When I got my license year's ago (haven't used it in a while), there
 was a no code technician license.


I meant to continue that thought... ;-)

As you say, the code requirement was dropped for Technican a while back...
it has since been dropped for all three license classes.  However, some of
the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only.

There wasn't a no-code license when I first started down this long road.

Nick
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Re: KJ6FOI

2010-02-25 Thread John Williams
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Nick Arnett nick.arn...@gmail.com wrote:
  However, some of
 the spectrum is still restricted to CW (code) only.

Right, the masochist channels  :-)  Or, perhaps, the apocalypse
practice channels.

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