RE: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Reggie Bautista [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: dinsdag 17 december 2002 0:00 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? Jeroen wrote: That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com is back in business! :-) Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50! That's nothing to get all excited about -- there are 49 other people who are in the same situation. :-) Jeroen Architectus Tabularium van Baardwijk LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Firstly, I'd like to thank everyone for one of the nicest welcomes I've had yet on the internet. - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? One of these days I'm going to have to read the Transparent Society, I think... waves at Big Brother - gotta love ya! I'm very glad I haven't done anything on the internet I'm ashamed of. Except that one thing. And maybe that other thing, too... Welp, there go my chances of being president At 12:12 15-12-2002 -0600, Amanda SubbaRao wrote: Speaking of unlurking, there was an Amanda Marlowe posting here in 1997/1998 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Are you that same Amanda by any chance? Depends. What are you charging her with? ;) Do you work for the government by any chance? Er... um... now that you mention it... yes, I do. GRIN It was my evil twin! I didn't do it! So, my informants provided me with outdated information again. Time to have a very serious talk with them about that... I wouldn't hold it against them, really. I expect I'm still listed as working there, given the way their beaurocracy works... The one I was referring to is http://tarkus.pha.jhu.edu/remainder of URL omitted. That woud be the one I haven't had access to in years, yes. Jeroen Intelligence Operations van Baardwijk Yah know, I have a friend at work who likes to ferret stuff out about me. I'd give him little assignments, like to find out where I went to high school. I told him about your email, and he said he was totally out-classed and would give it all up. LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. See, I was going to reply privately, but I figured you'd just send it to the list anyway once I read this ;). What's that? In my cheek? Oh, it's either my tongue or one of those 'you'll never take me alive' capsules... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
At 14:59 16-12-2002 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: Speaking of unlurking, there was an Amanda Marlowe posting here in 1997/1998 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Are you that same Amanda by any chance? And before you get really wierded out by the question, he's probably asking for 'probably under construction' brin-l.com alpha mail page. :) Right J? Yes and no. The question has everything to do with the Alpha Mail Statistics, but that page is not under construction; I just haven't gotten around to restore the content of www.brin-l.com yet. Jeroen Architectus Websiticum van Baardwijk LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Hi folks. Just a reminder... please remove the Brin: from subject headers when you (in your own judgment) feel the topic has drifted away from importance to me. NOT a serious matter, just a small courtesy. It's fun to see Brin-L active again and at peace. Happy holidays all! db ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: d.brin Happy holidays all! You mean that Sun worshipping thingy coming up in 9 days, that is perhaps the single biggest amalgam of pagan rituals? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
You mean that Sun worshipping thingy coming up in 9 days, that is perhaps the single biggest amalgam of pagan rituals? You got it. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 21:15 16-12-2002 +0100, I wrote: Yes and no. The question has everything to do with the Alpha Mail Statistics, but that page is not under construction; I just haven't gotten around to restore the content of www.brin-l.com yet. That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com is back in business! :-) Jeroen Architectus Websiticum van Baardwijk LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jeroen wrote: That problem has been remedied; as of right now, www.brin-l.com is back in business! :-) Whaddya know, I'm now in the top 50! Reggie Bautista _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, Would you be so kind as to entertain us by taking the test (takes only a few minutes) and tell us the result? Inquiring Brin-L minds would like to know. Stefan Jones posted this link on another board to which I subscribe: http://gning.org/skiffy.html I was unable to find Greg Bear or KS Robinson or myself. Someone let me know if you do. I admit I cheated and found David Brin was actually on the list by cycling through the answer links. Some interesting authors on that list... Here was a set of answers that got me David Brin: 1. War and conquest 2. Whatever is big, fast, and/or powerful 3. Patriotism is foolish... but I suppose I'm rather parochial. 4. I'll shit on you like you've never been shit on before. 5. I just avoid people as much as possible. 6. When you get onto a subject that I care about, I'll surprise you 7. Sort of, but it's as much commercial as artistic. 8. Pat. 9. It is morally wrong to silence yourself just so somebody else can talk. 10. I'm all about questions, not answers. 11. Hell, it's practically brimming full! For whatever that's worth!! (My real answers said I was Greg Benford) But honestly folks. Ain't it too silly for lifespan? Well, I needed the break! The reason we ask, is for comments about things like these, they are valuable. So what is your take on things like the MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) test? I think it's absolute BS that people use to classify each other and pigeonhole people with. My MBTI totally depends on my mood the day I take it. As do most of these tests... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 23:00 14-12-2002 -0600, Amanda SubbaRao wrote: Aha -- a new face in the crowd! Welcome! :-) Care to tell us more about yourself? My informants tell me you are a doctor of Astrophysics and Astronomy at Northeastern Illinois University, but that's pretty much it. (OK, that plus a comment about seven years being a very long time to not update a website grin). BTW, they also tell me you are the author of the the short story _MoonRise_ (http://www.aphelion-webzine.com/shorts/2001/07/MoonRise.htm). I liked that story; when can we expect the sequel? Jeroen Inquiring minds want to know van Baardwijk LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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In a message dated 12/15/2002 12:26:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and welcome to Brin-L too! The people here aren't as crazy as they look (except for Rob, who is much crazier). As I sit here pouring Cheerios on my applesauce, I wonder what he means by this statement. Whatever. I add my welcome. Not a story writer; just a detailer. William Taylor - (Who has now probably started a string on favorite odd food combinations.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Richard Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 1:23 PM Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? Amanda said: I decided Academia was Not For Me Welcome to the club! (Although I suspect that I'm a newer member than you are.) Oh, and welcome to Brin-L too! The people here aren't as crazy as they look (except for Rob, who is much crazier). I suppose thats true, seeing as how I am the creator of the geneticly engineered pythons that swallow volunteers in order to remake them as superhumans. (No really, just ask Rich!) Moonrise is still on my to fiddle with further list Do you find that you write most of a story in a sudden rush of enthusiasm and then find it hard to go back to it and finish it off? I'm really suffering that with my latest story - I know exactly what needs to go into the missing section and what changes need to be made to what's already written, but I just can't seem to find the time and the right mood to push through to the end. I'm starting to see a whole future of unfinished stories and fragments of novels ahead of me. Stephen Kings On Writing addresses this. But I'm not sure that his suggestions apply across the board. Worth a read by any aspiring writer in any case. (In the shameless plug department, what I've written so far is at http://www.theculture.org/rich/story.txt and spoiler junkies can see most of the ending at /end.txt The parts that make it make sense are as yet unwritten however.) As I've said before, I like it alot. I think it has a lot of potential. And welcome Amanda! xponent We Got Our Own Amanda Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Welcome, Amanda! At 12:12 PM 12/15/02 -0600, Amanda SubbaRao wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha -- a new face in the crowd! Welcome! :-) Care to tell us more about yourself? My informants tell me you are a doctor of Astrophysics and Astronomy at Northeastern Illinois University, but that's pretty much it. That's what the list always needs more of: professional astronomers who write in their spare time! -- Ronn! :) Ronn Blankenship Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary Science University of Montevallo Montevallo, AL Disclaimer: Unless specifically stated otherwise, any opinions contained herein are the personal opinions of the author and do not represent the official position of the University of Montevallo. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Thanks, Amanda, for finding me... so to speak. Here was a set of answers that got me David Brin: 1. War and conquest 2. Whatever is big, fast, and/or powerful 3. Patriotism is foolish... but I suppose I'm rather parochial. 4. I'll shit on you like you've never been shit on before. 5. I just avoid people as much as possible. 6. When you get onto a subject that I care about, I'll surprise you 7. Sort of, but it's as much commercial as artistic. 8. Pat. 9. It is morally wrong to silence yourself just so somebody else can talk. 10. I'm all about questions, not answers. 11. Hell, it's practically brimming full! How interesting. In fact, a majority of these answers are bizarre or even diametrically opposite to anything having to do with me. 1,2,4,5, and 8 have no bearing on truth in any way. 3(c) (Patriotism is foolish... but I suppose I'm rather parochial.) doesn't even make sense as an answer, no matter who gives it. If I'm right about what the designer MEANT, it might be my answer, or internationalist... or 'good old USA' depending on context. Certainly the Postman could be looked at as patriotic, but only in the sense that restoring the USA would serve the long term interests of civilization. The answer for 6 conflicts with their answer for 4... and is just as inaccurate. Whether you like my opinions or not, it's clear that I'm an extrovert. Number 9 is a matter of opinion. It is not the answer I would give about myself, but I admit that I am rather forward in bouncing all over with enthusiastic opinions. I constantly check to make sure I'm not suppressing others, and feel genuinely interested in others' ideas... but I know I fail in that effort often. So if the designers of this test wanted to put me in category 9(a) it is at least based on a general set of behaviors that occur in real life. That leaves 7, 10, and 11. These are the only answers that I would have written about myself. Ah... but before I get all lathered up, let's try variation. I changed all the insultingly stupid answers in 4 through 9... and even changed 3 to internationalist... and still got David Brin! It turns out the only 3 questions that need these answers in order to get me are #1,2 and 11 so I take back what I said about designer-tendentiousness. It's just silly. I'd be interested in how Vernor, Greg Bear, Stan Robinson etc score. All told, I consider this thing to be tendentious and stupid. The inherent biases make it pretty easy to dial in on the people who wrote it. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
I second that welcome! Nice to meet you. :) And... don't worry, Jeroen *does* work for a government, but not ours. :) Although I'm almost afraid to ask what his 'informants' tell him about the rest of us. Jon GSV Who knew Big Brother would be Dutch? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ronn! Blankenship Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? Welcome, Amanda! At 12:12 PM 12/15/02 -0600, Amanda SubbaRao wrote: From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aha -- a new face in the crowd! Welcome! :-) Care to tell us more about yourself? My informants tell me you are a doctor of Astrophysics and Astronomy at Northeastern Illinois University, but that's pretty much it. That's what the list always needs more of: professional astronomers who write in their spare time! -- Ronn! :) Ronn Blankenship Instructor of Astronomy/Planetary Science University of Montevallo Montevallo, AL Disclaimer: Unless specifically stated otherwise, any opinions contained herein are the personal opinions of the author and do not represent the official position of the University of Montevallo. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
From the weird lunch department: I had a Yoohoo and a Morningstar fake corn dog for lunch with a golden delicious apple and some raisins. I don't normally drink Yoohoo, but it magically appeared in the fridge this morning and I couldn't very well let it mingle unchecked with the condiments and beverages lest they become corrupted. :-) How are Cheerios and Applesauce? Do they make the applesauce more festive? Jon BTW, I don't recommend the above combo... fake hotdogs wrapped in cornbread don't go as well with sickeningly sweet chocolate milk as you might expect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2002 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? In a message dated 12/15/2002 12:26:25 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and welcome to Brin-L too! The people here aren't as crazy as they look (except for Rob, who is much crazier). As I sit here pouring Cheerios on my applesauce, I wonder what he means by this statement. Whatever. I add my welcome. Not a story writer; just a detailer. William Taylor - (Who has now probably started a string on favorite odd food combinations.) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You?
Our good Dr. Brin comments: 1. War and conquest 2. Whatever is big, fast, and/or powerful How interesting. In fact, a majority of these answers are bizarre or even diametrically opposite to anything having to do with me. 1,2,4,5, and 8 have no bearing on truth in any way. Perhaps if he had written The Uplift Police Action, he wouldn't have made their military list. William Taylor - And I say you should ask question 11 in a weightless environment. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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d.brin wrote: Here was a set of answers that got me David Brin: 1. War and conquest In fact, a majority of these answers are bizarre or even diametrically opposite to anything having to do with me. 1,2,4,5, and 8 have no bearing on truth in any way. I think the reason for 1. War and conquest is that many of your books have War and conquest as an important part of the plot: Uplift War, the two books and the short story set on Jijo, Glory Season, The Practice Effect, etc - even if in the books you take the side of the weaker, defending side. Alberto Monteiro ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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One other thing worth pointing out about this type of test is that the answers for which an author is mostly unique (i.e., few other authors gave the same answer) are pivotal in scoring the overall test. For example, for Brin, questions #1, #4, and #8 have Brin with 3 or fewer other authors, so if you choose #1, #4, and #8 as shown below, then randomly choose the answers to all the other questions, you are likely to be named Brin. Unfortunately, I think the designer got the most unique one for Brin, #4, wrong, so the test is pretty skewed from true Brin. On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 08:19:34PM -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: 1) (War and conquest., sdh); 4) (I'll shit on you like you've never been shit on before., dj); 8) (Al., dgnt); -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Thanks Erik But there must be more to it. Some answers are obligate. They form a choice cut between one author and another. Others... the test doesn't care if I voted for Al Gore or PatRobertson. As for #4, I'd like to know who j (my fellow shitter) is. Bizare. and enough on this I got kids stuff to do. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Sun, Dec 15, 2002 at 07:32:28PM -0800, d.brin wrote: Thanks Erik But there must be more to it. Some answers are obligate. They form a choice cut between one author and another. Others... the test doesn't care if I voted for Al Gore or PatRobertson. It just adds one to each variable (a-z) for each author associated with each answer that the person chooses. Whichever variable has the highest number after adding all the answers up is the overall choice. As for #4, I'd like to know who j (my fellow shitter) is. Bizare. Pournelle. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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As for #4, I'd like to know who j (my fellow shitter) is. Bizare. Pournelle. Yup. Nuff said. This dope has had enough of our time. Next item. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From our good Dr. Brin: Bizare. and enough on this I got kids stuff to do. I once had fun with a local radio talk show host, as I called her a radio personality who happened to be a Tucson resident. And I called the man who had the program before her's, a Tucson resident who happened to be a radio personality. She didn't understand the difference. She also isn't in Tucson anymore, having obtained a job elsewhere in a city with a higher market rating. Husband, father, writer, smoozer. I think Dr. Brin has it in the right order. Now, who is going to send this damn test to Jerry? William Taylor -- Black powder, bridles and booze. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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... Now, who is going to send this damn test to Jerry? Jerry doesn't take tests. After all, he's a best-selling science fiction writer. He *gives* tests. Did I mention that he's a best-selling science fiction writer? And makes a lot of money? Really a whole lot? Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 7:18 PM Subject: Re: brin: [LINK] What Science Fiction Author Are You? From: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] David, Would you be so kind as to entertain us by taking the test (takes only a few minutes) and tell us the result? Inquiring Brin-L minds would like to know. Stefan Jones posted this link on another board to which I subscribe: http://gning.org/skiffy.html I went ahead and took this 'test', even though the biases of the test designer are obvious right from the start.For example, about a dozen 'sweet' answers give you Ursula LeGuin, some of them contradictory, but none of them featuring bigoted narrowmindedness. I tried to answer for myself, but find I want to punch several answers at once. The assumption is that people slot into interests and a major trait of the BEST sf authors will be -- as soon as you find yourself slotted -- to try something else for a while. My first set of answers got me labeled as ROBERT A HEINLEIN. When I switched my asnwer to #1 from 'individuality vs tyranny to Exploration and discovery I instantly became ISAAC ASIMOV.These two results do not displease me of course. Though anyone who thinks Isaac was an archetype of an exploratory author has a weird tak on things. When I then switched my answer to #2 from sociology to genetics I became ALFRED BESTER. Again, I ain't offended! Switching this again to astrophysics turned me back into Isaac. Being unwilling to suffer fools gladly turned me into Arthur C Clarke. I finally got one of the killer bees by not suffering fools, not letting others talk, having theories and considering the glass twice as full as it oughta be. Even though it appears that Greg Benford (much to his surprise) voted for Al Gore. I was unable to find Greg Bear or KS Robinson or myself. Someone let me know if you do. But honestly folks. Ain't it too silly for lifespan? The reason we ask, is for comments about things like these, they are valuable. So what is your take on things like the MBTI (Myers-Briggs Type Indicator) test? I think it's absolute BS that people use to classify each other and pigeonhole people with. LOL.my psycho ex-wife used to want me to take the M-B test on a regular basis. Just so *she* could pigeonhole me I suppose! G xponent New Fax Machine Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
