Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
Trent Shipley wrote: 620 MYA: The ecologically insensitive Lions dominate the Galaxies. Ash spreads through 30% of Galaxy One and 20% of Galaxy Two. Complex sea life on Earth. I think I remember the Cambrian Explosion being closer to 560 MYA, but it's been a while since I read about it. 12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within 1000 years it is extinct. Duplicate entry. See 52 KYA. 52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within a thousand years, it is extinct. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Science Fiction-themed online store . http://www.sloan3d.com/store Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
On Monday 2004-01-19 01:55, The Fool wrote: From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within 1000 years it is extinct. 52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within a thousand years, it is extinct. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Made a couple of changes - Time-Line: History of the Five Galaxies[1] BYA = Billion Years Ago, MYA = Million Years Ago, KYA=Thousand Years Ago; BCE=Before Common (Terragen) Era (=BC), CE = Common (Terragen) Era (=AD); BxY = before Contact, 0xY = year of Contact (= 2211 CE), AxY = after Contact; All years are standard Terragen measure. SadPaktar = Paktar that Progenitors Passed On from Main Sequence existence = Paktar 0 = 2.26 BYA; SS=Steve Sloan addition. --- 15 BYA: Big Bang (SS) 3.1 - 2.8 BYA: Massive terraforming campaigns. Evidence of age-long world-shattering conflicts. Sources mention 17 Galaxies. (Beginnings of life on Earth.) 2.8 - 2.2 BYA: Progenitors rule the galaxies in what is traditionally thought to be a Golden Age. Mention of 13 Galaxies. Records extremely sketchy. 2.8-2.75 BYA: Scholars attribute Paean of Loneliness to this age. The Paean of Loneliness is an ode to Uplift. 2.75 BYA: Appearance of first textual and archaeological evidence for Hydrogen Breathing and Methane Breathing sapients. 2.71 BYA: Transfer point to Third Galaxy discovered; wrecked Galactic-level civilization discovered there. The Progenitors and allied species revise their ecological ethics and practices in response. 2.7 BYA: First Machine Wars. Self-replicating AIs and nanotechnology are restricted and regulated in the common interest. Galactic Foresight Organization founded. 2.3 BYA: Progenitors separate themselves from affairs of lesser races, passing on laws and edicts. 2.305 BYA: First Wars with Hydrogen-Breathers begin. 2.263 BYA: Second Machine Wars begin. According to legend, self-replicating, intelligent, non-organic constructs-designed by both H-2 and O-2 combatants in the H-2/O-2 Wars-mutually decide their masters are insanely irrational, and so unfit to represent Sapiency. 2.2615 BYA: H-2/O-2 Wars escalate 2.26 BYA (a): Progenitors physically leave the Galaxies (according to Inheritor legend). 2.26 BYA (b): Artificial life enjoys considerable military advantage in the three-way wars between Artificial, H-2, and O-2 life. 2.258 BYA: Open hostilities in the First H-2/O-2 Wars end with the Cease Fire for Negotiations Toward a Mutually Beneficial Peace. 2.256 BYA: Macro-Nanitic sapient species are exterminated by the Organic species per the agreement of 2.258 BYA. 2.253 BYA: As Second Machine Wars end, Second H-2/O-2 Wars begin. 11 galaxies. 2.25 BYA: The alliance of Organic life defeats the Artificial species. Treaties restrict Artificial life to designated Reserve Areas. These treaties are still in force. 2.24 BYA: Zang establish separate peace with O/2 Civilization paving the way for a general peace. 2.23 BYA: First Comprehensive H-2/O-2 Trucial Agreements concluded. These agreements result in the official alliance of all Organic life against all Artificial life. Use of cybernetic technology is discouraged. The Foresight Organization is strengthened. 2.22 BYA: Progenitors Pass On, according to Transcendor belief. 2.202 BYA (a): Hydrogen Breathers exterminate sapient Methane and Ammonia life-forms. 2.202 BYA (b): Second Comprehensive H-2/O-2 Trucial Agreements concluded, forming the basis for H-2/O-2 interaction to this day. The first systematic Hydrogen Breather and Oxygen Breather cooperation in migration and ecological management begins. The Galactic Institute for Migration begins to take on its modern form. 2.15 BYA: An O-2 power vacuum leads predecessors of some of today's alliances to battle for control of the galaxies. Nadir of post-Progenitor dark ages. 2.1 - 1.9 BYA: Power struggles largely resolved. This is a crucial formative age for much of O-2 Galactic civilization as we now know it. The Library records from this time forward are notably more complete than for earlier epochs. 1.9 BYA: Institute for Civilized Warfare formed. 1.6 BYA: Contact lost with three galaxies. Eight galaxies remain. The disaster results in cultural upheavals and sparks the first wave of memnetic plagues. 1.4 BYA: The Library is reorganized into its modern form. The Uplift Institute is founded. 1.1 BYA: Seven galaxies. Memnetic plagues lead to lawless warfare and spread of Ash. 830 MYA: Temporary loss of contact with Galaxy 5. Earth's seas begin to explode with multicellular life. 620 MYA: The ecologically insensitive Lions dominate the Galaxies. Ash spreads through 30% of Galaxy One and 20% of
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
In a message dated 1/20/2004 8:04:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lost track of which galaxy is which number here. Just in case... 141 MYA: [Contacting Aliens entry ignored.] I don't have a copy handy. I don't remember which entry this is. But I do know that as presented in Contacting Aliens, Earth's entire age of dinosaurs occured outside of the current Galactic Civilization. I think it was at that time the lost Galaxy Seven which was renamed as Galaxy Two when reconnected. Having the dinosaurs outside of Galactic Civilization is canonical to whatever Brin is going to eventually write. (We just don't know why yet.) William Taylor - A: Why are you pouring plaster into the gravesite of the author you liked so much? B: One last time--I wanted to see the plot thicken. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
On Tuesday 2004-01-20 20:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/20/2004 8:04:38 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lost track of which galaxy is which number here. I didn't so much loose track of each Galaxy as give up on tracking them. I just tried to keep a running count of how many were in contact with the core. Just in case... 141 MYA: [Contacting Aliens entry ignored.] I don't have a copy handy. I don't remember which entry this is. 141 MYA all major sapient races form a union, slowly regaining confidence [after Second Gronin Collapse]. But I do know that as presented in Contacting Aliens, Earth's entire age of dinosaurs occured outside of the current Galactic Civilization. What do you mean by outside? I think it was at that time the lost Galaxy Seven which was renamed as Galaxy Two when reconnected. Having the dinosaurs outside of Galactic Civilization is canonical to whatever Brin is going to eventually write. (We just don't know why yet.) Embarrass the Soro? Maybe they have traces of Earth DNA. William Taylor - A: Why are you pouring plaster into the gravesite of the author you liked so much? B: One last time--I wanted to see the plot thicken. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
In a message dated 1/20/2004 9:31:48 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But I do know that as presented in Contacting Aliens, Earth's entire age of dinosaurs occured outside of the current Galactic Civilization. What do you mean by outside? The galactics never visited Earth while there were dinosaurs as the galaxy was lost until past their die-off. (If indeed that was what happened.) Galaxy Seven was lost. Galaxy Seven was refound. Galaxy Seven was renamed Galaxy Two. Earth is in Galaxy Two. It's all there in Contacting Aliens. Just not in one single declarative sentence: Galactic Civilization doesn't know what happened on Earth (if anything did happen) for the entire age of the dinosaurs. It's right there, in plain sight, for everyone to never see it. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
From: Trent Shipley [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12 MYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within 1000 years it is extinct. 52 KYA: The last recorded wolfling race, the Paranaj, is discovered. Within a thousand years, it is extinct. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Uplift Timeline (was Tg Territories)
Dear Alberto: The new colony will be an A+/B- world in orbit around Alpha Centuri A. It will be called Easter. Its residents will be called 'Pascuans'. Before do a write-up I needed some dates, so I re-collated the timeline. Let me know what you think. 1) I got my old timeline and fixed it. (I was surprised at how badly I had edited it.) 2) I got Lenagh's timeline and merged it. 3) I merged SeJ's GURPS 2nd ed timeline. 4) I added some dates for pre-contact interstellar colonization. NB! I would like to make contact and all the future fictional dates 100 years in the future. The date for human NLS interstellar engines (2061 CE) is absurd. 2161CE seems safely remote. -- Time-Line: History of the Five Galaxies[1] BYA = Billion Years Ago, MYA = Million Years Ago, KYA=Thousand Years Ago; BCE=Before Common (Terragen) Era (=BC), CE = Common (Terragen) Era (=AD); BxY = before Contact, 0xY = year of Contact (= 2211 CE), AxY = after Contact; All years are standard Terragen measure. SadPaktar = Paktar that Progenitors Passed On from Main Sequence existence = Paktar 0 = 2.26 BYA; SS=Steve Sloan addition. --- 15 BYA: Big Bang (SS) 3.1 - 2.8 BYA: Massive terraforming campaigns. Evidence of age-long world-shattering conflicts. Sources mention 17 Galaxies. (Beginnings of life on Earth.) 2.8 - 2.2 BYA: Progenitors rule the galaxies in what is traditionally thought to be a Golden Age. Mention of 13 Galaxies. Records extremely sketchy. 2.8-2.75 BYA: Scholars attribute Paean of Loneliness to this age. The Paean of Loneliness is an ode to Uplift. 2.75 BYA: Appearance of first textual and archaeological evidence for Hydrogen Breathing and Methane Breathing sapients. 2.71 BYA: Transfer point to Third Galaxy discovered; wrecked Galactic-level civilization discovered there. The Progenitors and allied species revise their ecological ethics and practices in response. 2.7 BYA: First Machine Wars. Self-replicating AIs and nanotechnology are restricted and regulated in the common interest. Galactic Foresight Organization founded. 2.3 BYA: Progenitors separate themselves from affairs of lesser races, passing on laws and edicts. 2.305 BYA: First Wars with Hydrogen-Breathers begin. 2.263 BYA: Second Machine Wars begin. According to legend, self-replicating, intelligent, non-organic constructs-designed by both H-2 and O-2 combatants in the H-2/O-2 Wars-mutually decide their masters are insanely irrational, and so unfit to represent Sapiency. 2.2615 BYA: H-2/O-2 Wars escalate 2.26 BYA (a): Progenitors physically leave the Galaxies (according to Inheritor legend). 2.26 BYA (b): Artificial life enjoys considerable military advantage in the three-way wars between Artificial, H-2, and O-2 life. 2.258 BYA: Open hostilities in the First H-2/O-2 Wars end with the Cease Fire for Negotiations Toward a Mutually Beneficial Peace. 2.256 BYA: Macro-Nanitic sapient species are exterminated by the Organic species per the agreement of 2.258 BYA. 2.253 BYA: As Second Machine Wars end, Second H-2/O-2 Wars begin. 11 galaxies. 2.25 BYA: The alliance of Organic life defeats the Artificial species. Treaties restrict Artificial life to designated Reserve Areas. These treaties are still in force. 2.24 BYA: Zang establish separate peace with O/2 Civilization paving the way for a general peace. 2.23 BYA: First Comprehensive H-2/O-2 Trucial Agreements concluded. These agreements result in the official alliance of all Organic life against all Artificial life. Use of cybernetic technology is discouraged. The Foresight Organization is strengthened. 2.22 BYA: Progenitors Pass On, according to Transcendor belief. 2.202 BYA (a): Hydrogen Breathers exterminate sapient Methane and Ammonia life-forms. 2.202 BYA (b): Second Comprehensive H-2/O-2 Trucial Agreements concluded, forming the basis for H-2/O-2 interaction to this day. The first systematic Hydrogen Breather and Oxygen Breather cooperation in migration and ecological management begins. The Galactic Institute for Migration begins to take on its modern form. 2.15 BYA: An O-2 power vacuum leads predecessors of some of today's alliances to battle for control of the galaxies. Nadir of post-Progenitor dark ages. 2.1 - 1.9 BYA: Power struggles largely resolved. This is a crucial formative age for much of O-2 Galactic civilization as we now know it. The Library records from this time forward are notably more complete than for earlier epochs. 1.9 BYA: Institute for Civilized Warfare formed. 1.6 BYA: Contact lost with three galaxies. Eight galaxies remain. The disaster results in cultural upheavals and sparks the first wave of memnetic plagues. 1.4 BYA: The Library is reorganized into its modern form. The Uplift Institute is founded.
