RE: Uplift questions

2014-03-05 Thread Ellen S .
> Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't read Heaven's 
> Reach!! 





> And that's Alvin, Mudfoot, and Huck on Harathrurptra. 
>   (Correct spelling anyone?) 
> Mudfoot can become VERY important if Harathrumta (Sp?) 
> has Rousit.

In what way? By influencing Rousit in some way to be 
friendly to Clan Tymbrimi than their patrons are?
I wouldn't hire Tytlal for my PR campaign, that's for 
sure.



> Does anybody remember the Rousit?
>
> Contacting Aliens didn't.
>
> (The above is subject, of course, to Dr. Brin actually 
> making the Rousit clients of the Hoon. It wasn't that 
> clear in Heaven's Reach.)

Buh wait, that isn't canon? I assumed they were confirmed
Hoon clients.



> 2. Did we ever find out why Gillian wanted a herd of 
> Glavers? 
>  
> They speak to hydrogen breathers, IIRC. 

Reading Contacting Aliens cleared that one up for me.
Though I don't recall any glavers sitting in on her
interview with the Transcendent being... then again
maybe a few were sitting in a corner wordlessly chewing 
their cud or whatever glavers do.



> (It 
> would also have made it possible for Dwer to take a 
> few back to Jijo, but I doubt David Brin would make 
> things so narratively "easy" for Jijo.)

Oops, that comment of mine was about red rings, not
glavers. But seriously, you'd think Lark would remember
Asx's request to take the original red ring to the
Sages, and try to get somebody to take some.



> And Alvin could use the bio-life preservers in 
> his sailing business. 

Ahah yeah! Hoon can't swim so they might find those
traeki scuba-gear rings handy. But then traeki were
basically written as biological Swiss-army-knives for
nearly every need... to the extent of producing
the enzymes that make it possible for humans and
maybe others to exist on Jijo without dying of
malnutrition. It makes me wonder how the Path of
Redemption folks plan on replacing that function once
traeki are mindless dirt-eaters.


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Re: Uplift questions

2014-03-03 Thread Nick Arnett
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On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 10:07 AM, William Taylor  wrote:

>
>   Well, since I have joined this mailing list I can ask
> some questions that I've wondered about. I haven't
> read Heaven's Reach in a while, but I don't remember
> the book answering these questions. Maybe some list
> members might know.
>
>
>
> Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't read Heaven's
> Reach!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 1. When Gillian traded things with Uriel, did she take
>  any rewqs? They'd be very valuable both for Earthclan
>  and for that colony Alvin and Huck moved to.
>
>
>
> You ask a` question that would most likely be answered
>
> by our good Dr. Brin with, "Of course they did--just
>
> as soon as I write in the need for them in a later story."
>
>
>
> It ain't always completely thought out beforehand.
>
> Authors do get surprised by their own future plot twists.
>
>
>
> And that's
>
> Alvin, Mudfoot, and Huck on Harathrurptra.
>
>  (Correct spelling anyone?)
>
> Mudfoot can become VERY important if Harathrumta (Sp?)
>
> has Rousit.
>
> Does anybody remember the Rousit?
>
> Contacting Aliens didn't.
>
> (The above is subject, of course, to Dr. Brin actually
>
> making the Rousit clients of the Hoon. It wasn't that
>
> clear in Heaven's Reach.)
>
>
>
> 2. Did we ever find out why Gillian wanted a herd of
> Glavers?
>
> They speak to hydrogen breathers, IIRC.
>
>
>
> I doubt they're legally available for uplift
> yet, (RE-Uplift, as they're on the downward slope.)
>
> but Contacting Aliens does say they haven't been
> spotted (in the other Galaxy 2) in 2000 years. Did she
>  figure they might be the last of their kind, and want
>  to prevent the Jophur from killing them all? (It
> would also have made it possible for Dwer to take a
> few back to Jijo, but I doubt David Brin would make
> things so narratively "easy" for Jijo.)
>
> 3. When Streaker and Polkjhy exchanged people and
> chunks of hull, did Lark and Ling give any of the red
> rings to Gillian? Those things are a potent biological
> weapon against Jophur, even if used only as a
> defensive measure.
>
> And Alvin could use the bio-life preservers in
>
> his sailing business.
>
>
> 4. Lark saw an Urs on Polkjhy, stuck in an air bubble.
> Why would any Urs accept such a watery/confined fate?
>
> Better than having some er pop the bubble?
>
>
> She'll be stuck in that little bubble for the rest of
> her life. Why didn't she go onto the Streaker while
> all those Dolphins were going onto Polkjhy?
>
>
>
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Re: Uplift questions

2014-03-03 Thread William Taylor





Well, since I have joined this mailing list I can ask 
some questions that I've wondered about. I haven't 
read Heaven's Reach in a while, but I don't remember 
the book answering these questions. Maybe some list 
members might know.



Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't read Heaven's 
Reach!!







1. When Gillian traded things with Uriel, did she take
 any rewqs? They'd be very valuable both for Earthclan
 and for that colony Alvin and Huck moved to.

You ask a` question that would most likely be answered
by our good Dr. Brin with, "Of course they did--just
as soon as I write in the need for them in a later story."

It ain't always completely thought out beforehand.
Authors do get surprised by their own future plot twists.

And that's 
Alvin, Mudfoot, and Huck on Harathrurptra.
 (Correct spelling anyone?)
Mudfoot can become VERY important if Harathrumta (Sp?)
has Rousit.
Does anybody remember the Rousit?
Contacting Aliens didn't.
(The above is subject, of course, to Dr. Brin actually
making the Rousit clients of the Hoon. It wasn't that 
clear in Heaven's Reach.)


2. Did we ever find out why Gillian wanted a herd of 
Glavers? 
They speak to hydrogen breathers, IIRC.

I doubt they're legally available for uplift 
yet, (RE-Uplift, as they're on the downward slope.)
but Contacting Aliens does say they haven't been 
spotted (in the other Galaxy 2) in 2000 years. Did she
 figure they might be the last of their kind, and want
 to prevent the Jophur from killing them all? (It 
would also have made it possible for Dwer to take a 
few back to Jijo, but I doubt David Brin would make 
things so narratively "easy" for Jijo.)

3. When Streaker and Polkjhy exchanged people and 
chunks of hull, did Lark and Ling give any of the red 
rings to Gillian? Those things are a potent biological 
weapon against Jophur, even if used only as a 
defensive measure.
And Alvin could use the bio-life preservers in
his sailing business.

4. Lark saw an Urs on Polkjhy, stuck in an air bubble. 
Why would any Urs accept such a watery/confined fate? 
Better than having some er pop the bubble?

She'll be stuck in that little bubble for the rest of 
her life. Why didn't she go onto the Streaker while 
all those Dolphins were going onto Polkjhy?



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Uplift questions

2014-03-02 Thread E. S.
Well, since I have joined this mailing list I can ask 
some questions that I've wondered about. I haven't 
read Heaven's Reach in a while, but I don't remember 
the book answering these questions. Maybe some list 
members might know.



Spoiler warning to anyone who hasn't read Heaven's 
Reach!!







1. When Gillian traded things with Uriel, did she take
 any rewqs? They'd be very valuable both for Earthclan
 and for that colony Alvin and Huck moved to.

2. Did we ever find out why Gillian wanted a herd of 
Glavers? I doubt they're legally available for uplift 
yet, but Contacting Aliens does say they haven't been 
spotted (in the other Galaxy 2) in 2000 years. Did she
 figure they might be the last of their kind, and want
 to prevent the Jophur from killing them all? (It 
would also have made it possible for Dwer to take a 
few back to Jijo, but I doubt David Brin would make 
things so narratively "easy" for Jijo.)

3. When Streaker and Polkjhy exchanged people and 
chunks of hull, did Lark and Ling give any of the red 
rings to Gillian? Those things are a potent biological 
weapon against Jophur, even if used only as a 
defensive measure.

4. Lark saw an Urs on Polkjhy, stuck in an air bubble. 
Why would any Urs accept such a watery/confined fate? 
She'll be stuck in that little bubble for the rest of 
her life. Why didn't she go onto the Streaker while 
all those Dolphins were going onto Polkjhy?



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