Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Hello, Paul confirmed in the Slint list that the issue only occurs in a GUI. This is with a Focus 80 Blue (5th Gen) This has been also confirmed by another user, Pawel Loba, quoted below: > Hello Paul, So you simply have a bigger brother of my unit. One way or the > other, I must confirm your finding regarding the lack of input capabilities of > Braille keyboard within the terminal and relatively poor navigation too. Pawel later clarifies that by "terminal" in the quoted text above he actually meant "mate-terminal" and added a few details, quoted below: > As far as I can say, all is good in the text mode. > After I open the graphical mode running Mate and opening the terminal with ctrl+alt+t, there is no way to type in using the Braille keyboard which is a part of our Braille displays. Navigation is also pretty useless with the dedicated Braille displays' keys. As an aside this explains why Paul had no issue during the Slint installation, which occurs in text mode. Now that we know that the issue occurs only in a GUI, should it be also posted in the Orca mailing list on would that just bring confusion? Cheers, Didier Le 27/08/2023 à 14:17, Adrian van Bloois a écrit : > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:14:28PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: >> Hello Adrian, >> >> You are probably right. I've been struggling with this issue for a couple of >> months now. >> >> Is there a command to switch between the CLI and GUI with BRLTTY? > I don't know, I only use brltty in text mode, no GUI. > The issue might be in the GUI code, I don't have any issues in the tex > mode. > > >> >> Paul >> >> -Original Message- >> From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois >> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:10 PM >> To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. >> >> Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing >> >> Hi, >> I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. >> I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever >> with my new focus80 I obtained in March. >> I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. >> I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very >> stable. >> So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu >> Would be my first reaction. >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: >>> Hello BRLTTY Developers, >>> >>> >>> >>> I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean >>> install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and >>> 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 >>> LTS I have keyboard input. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have >>> keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel >>> version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of >>> BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have >>> installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down >>> to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. >>> >>> >>> >>> I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you >>> will investigate this. >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> ___ >>> This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. >>> To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general >>> information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty >> >> >> -- >> Adri P. van Bloois >> >> >> It's never too late for early music!!! >> >> >> >> ___ >> This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. >> To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general >> information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty >> >> ___ >> This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. >> To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app >> For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Hello Adrian, I have and it makes no difference. I'm currently on Ubuntu 22.04 MATE LTS and I can read the terminal but nothing in the GUI. On the other systems it's the opposite. I can read the GUI but not the terminal. I cannot fathom it. Paul -Original Message- From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:41 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Have you tried F7 ??? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this > might be my problem. Paul > > > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and > 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 > LTS I have keyboard input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have > keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel > version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of > BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have > installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down > to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you > will investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Have you tried F7 ??? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:21:10PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this might be > my problem. Paul > > > > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM > To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' > > Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT > if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard > input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard > input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently > have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY > when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these > distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver > issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will > investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Is there a way to switch from text mode to the GUI as I think this might be my problem. Paul From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Life in Six Dots Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 12:55 PM To: 'Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY.' Subject: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Hello BRLTTY Developers, I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard input. I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will investigate this. Paul ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Thanks Adrian, I think this might be my problem. Paul -Original Message- From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:18 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:14:28PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > You are probably right. I've been struggling with this issue for a > couple of months now. > > Is there a command to switch between the CLI and GUI with BRLTTY? I don't know, I only use brltty in text mode, no GUI. The issue might be in the GUI code, I don't have any issues in the tex mode. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van > Bloois > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:10 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > Hi, > I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. > I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem > whatsoever with my new focus80 I obtained in March. > I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. > I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but > very very stable. > So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or > Ubuntu Would be my first reaction. > > Adrian > > > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a > > clean install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, > > and 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE > > 22.04 LTS I have keyboard input. > > > > > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have > > keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel > > version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of > > BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have > > installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't > > down to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope > > you will investigate this. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 01:14:28PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello Adrian, > > You are probably right. I've been struggling with this issue for a couple of > months now. > > Is there a command to switch between the CLI and GUI with BRLTTY? I don't know, I only use brltty in text mode, no GUI. The issue might be in the GUI code, I don't have any issues in the tex mode. > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:10 PM > To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. > > Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing > > Hi, > I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. > I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever > with my new focus80 I obtained in March. > I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. > I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very > stable. > So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu > Would be my first reaction. > > Adrian > > > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and > > 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 > > LTS I have keyboard input. > > > > > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have > > keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel > > version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of > > BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have > > installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down > > to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you > > will investigate this. > > > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > > -- > Adri P. van Bloois > > > It's never too late for early music!!! > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Hello Adrian, You are probably right. I've been struggling with this issue for a couple of months now. Is there a command to switch between the CLI and GUI with BRLTTY? Paul -Original Message- From: BRLTTY On Behalf Of Adrian van Bloois Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2023 1:10 PM To: Informal discussion between users and developers of BRLTTY. Subject: Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing Hi, I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever with my new focus80 I obtained in March. I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very stable. So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu Would be my first reaction. Adrian On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and > 23.04. BUT if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 > LTS I have keyboard input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have > keyboard input during the installation but not after. The kernel > version I currently have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of > BRLTTY when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have > installed these distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down > to some funky driver issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you > will investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general > information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
Re: [BRLTTY] Somwthing is missing
Hi, I am absolutely sure it has nothing to do with the release of brltty. I installed brltty 6.5 from the source-tree and had no problem whatsoever with my new focus80 I obtained in March. I upgraded brltty to 6.6 wen that was available and again flawless.y. I run all that on CentOS 7.9, maybe a bit old and conservative but very very stable. So, it might have something to do with teh releases of Debian or Ubuntu Would be my first reaction. Adrian On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 12:55:09PM +0100, Life in Six Dots wrote: > Hello BRLTTY Developers, > > > > I am still having an issue with the braille keyboard when I do a clean > install of the latest images of Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, and 23.04. BUT > if I install a slightly older image of Ubuntu MATE 22.04 LTS I have keyboard > input. > > > > I have also installed the latest image of Slint and I did have keyboard > input during the installation but not after. The kernel version I currently > have installed in 6.1.40. > > > > I do have keyboard input when access the TTY failsafe terminal. > > > > I personally think it has something to do with the latest builds of BRLTTY > when it is 6.4, or 6.5. I have not tried version 6.6. I have installed these > distros on different machines to ensure it wasn't down to some funky driver > issue. And tried five different braille displays. > > > > I've also concluded that it is not a kernel or TIOCS issue. I hope you will > investigate this. > > > > Paul > > > > > > ___ > This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. > To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app > For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty -- Adri P. van Bloois It's never too late for early music!!! ___ This message was sent via the BRLTTY mailing list. To post a message, send an e-mail to: BRLTTY@brltty.app For general information, go to: http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
