Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-25 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
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Mart,

Well, as much as I hate to say it, there's nothing to show.

I modified the following about:config settings:

  * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
  * font.name.monospace.x-western
  * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
  * font.name.sans-serif.x-western
  * font.name.serif.x-unicode
  * font.name.serif.x-western

After replacing Noto Emoji in those settings with any of the font names
that made sense to me ("Twemoji" and "Twemoji Mozilla") as well as the
PostScript name ("TwemojiMozilla", according to fc-query), I was left
with no Emoji at all, at least on the Wikipedia page that you were
referring to before [1].

Restarting IceCat didn't result in any changes.

At the time of testing, `fc-list` (both the Guix and standard one)
included the Twemoji font after I had put the .ttf file into
.local/share/fonts and refreshed the font cache with `fc-cache -vf`.

Apparently, this is either because I'm too dumb and did something wrong
while testing or IceCat is unable to handle colour emoji fonts in
general.

Do you know if there's any way to check if IceCat encounters any errors
while trying to load fonts that are specified in about:config?

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block)
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On Wed, 2018-04-25 at 20:58 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> Felix,
> see if you can test Twemoji Mozilla in place of Noto Color Emoji.
> 
> The latest Twemoji Mozilla is available here:
> https://github.com/mozilla/twemoji-colr/releases
> 
> Since EmojiOne changed their license to a non-free one for EmojiOne
> 3.0, then Mozilla recently moved to use the Twemoji Mozilla font.
> Relevant discussion here:
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1358240
> 
> Where applicable, then in IceCat's about:config, temporarily replace
> Noto with Twemoji, and it would be great to hear back from you,
> especially with screenshots.
> 
> -M.
> 
> 2018-04-21 22:55 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich  e>:
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> > 
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > No, the issue is not reproducible on the firefox-esr package I got
> > on
> > Debian 9 (Firefox ESR 52.7.3 64-bit). There, it displays all emoji
> > with
> > the EmojiOne Mozilla font, which seems to be provided by Firefox
> > itself.
> > 
> > - --
> > Felix Fröhlich
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> > 
> > On Sat, 2018-04-21 at 08:09 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 2018-04-21 02:29, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
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> > > > 
> > > > Hi David,
> > > > 
> > > > As Mart wrote in his reply, my initial issue has been resolved.
> > > 
> > > Can you reproduce this issue in the upstream Firefox ESR version?
> > > Once
> > > you have verified that you'll be able to let us know if this is a
> > > bug
> > > in
> > > IceCat or not. Can you please do that to help us?
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I'm not sure, though, if creating a bug report for this would
> > > > be
> > > > appropriate, as IIRC emoji have been a problem in terms of
> > > > displaying
> > > > them ever since I installed IceCat (both the downloads from
> > > > gnu.org/s/gnuzilla and Guix).
> > > > 
> > > > Working around the issue at hand is quite easy once you're
> > > > aware of
> > > > the
> > > > about:config options and are not afraid to use it. For me, it
> > > > wasn't a
> > > > problem once I got the know-how from Mart, but it may confuse
> > > > "normal"
> > > > users who most likely expect emoji to work out-of-the-box.
> > > > 
> > > > However, that's just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it.
> > > > 
> > > > - --
> > > > Felix Fröhlich
> > > > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > > > 
> > > > On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 21:19 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:
> > > > > Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> > > > > > Felix,
> > > > > > There are additional font size settings in about:config, if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > search
> > > > > > there just with 'font'.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The about:config solution is one, though in some operating
> > > > > > systems,
> > > > > > browsers typically default to the closest possible match,
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > rely
> > > > > > on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the
> > > > > > trip
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > about:config.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto
> > > > > > emoji
> > > > > > look
> > > > > > like for you with text?
> > > > > > For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a
> > > > > > textarea
> > > > > > (editing an article).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-
> > > > > > gnuzilla,
> > > > > > and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've
> > > > > >

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-24 Thread David Hedlund 

I forwarded this message to to George Douros .

Thank you.


On 2018-04-21 08:00, Mart Rootamm wrote:

The color emoji are too large.

When using Android, the color emoji are typically much bigger than the
rest of the text, which I have always thought to be a feature in order
to increase the visibility of any (color) emoji, and not a bug.

In computers that still have Windows xp, I've installed Symbola as the
go-to font for emoji. There, Firefox did not require about:config
tweaks, but the old SeaMonkey 1.1 did.

License change issue with Symbola and other fonts by George Douros.

Symbola and many other fonts are available at below link:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

But I've just discovered, that George Douros has changed the license
of the fonts between 29 January 2018, and 7 March 2018.

The Internet Archive snapshot on 29 January 2018 says:
"In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for any use;"
This includes Symbola 10.23 and many other fonts by Douros.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

The next snapshot from 7 March 2018 says this:
"Free use of the software on this site is strictly limited to
personal, non-commercial use;"
Involves Symbola 10.24 and many other fonts.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180307012615/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

It should be possible to narrow down the date span of the change with
other web archive services.

Word should be spread, that fonts by George Douros are no longer free
in the spirit of GNU.

-Mart.

2018-04-21 3:22 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :

Hi Matt,

As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
(because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
you'd expect emoji to work.

When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.

As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
unusable, not a bug in IceCat.

With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
there's no need to CC me :)

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On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:

Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-24 Thread David Hedlund 

Thank you.


On 2018-04-21 21:55, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

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Hi David,

No, the issue is not reproducible on the firefox-esr package I got on
Debian 9 (Firefox ESR 52.7.3 64-bit). There, it displays all emoji with
the EmojiOne Mozilla font, which seems to be provided by Firefox
itself.

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Felix Fröhlich

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On Sat, 2018-04-21 at 08:09 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:

On 2018-04-21 02:29, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

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Hi David,

As Mart wrote in his reply, my initial issue has been resolved.

Can you reproduce this issue in the upstream Firefox ESR version?
Once
you have verified that you'll be able to let us know if this is a bug
in
IceCat or not. Can you please do that to help us?


I'm not sure, though, if creating a bug report for this would be
appropriate, as IIRC emoji have been a problem in terms of
displaying
them ever since I installed IceCat (both the downloads from
gnu.org/s/gnuzilla and Guix).

Working around the issue at hand is quite easy once you're aware of
the
about:config options and are not afraid to use it. For me, it
wasn't a
problem once I got the know-how from Mart, but it may confuse
"normal"
users who most likely expect emoji to work out-of-the-box.

However, that's just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it.

- -- 
Felix Fröhlich

GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 21:19 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:

Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?


On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:

Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating
systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if
they
rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip
to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji
look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a
textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-
gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :

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Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous
reply I
sent
to Mart. Here you go:

   Hi Mart,

   Great! Thanks for the advice.

   I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following
about:config
   settings:

    * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
    * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
    * font.name.serif.x-unicode

   Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big,
though ^^

   I'll play around with the font settings and see if I
can
manage
   this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.

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On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

Hi all,

So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart
and
bug-
gnuz
i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that
was
the
correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the
emoji
(see
below).

I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know --
the
Noto
Color
Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the
font
shows up
as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer
(see
attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to
the
uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no
big
deal,
really.

Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

Thanks again for your help, Mart!

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-21 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
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Hi David,

No, the issue is not reproducible on the firefox-esr package I got on
Debian 9 (Firefox ESR 52.7.3 64-bit). There, it displays all emoji with
the EmojiOne Mozilla font, which seems to be provided by Firefox
itself.

- -- 
Felix Fröhlich
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On Sat, 2018-04-21 at 08:09 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:
> 
> On 2018-04-21 02:29, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
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> > Hash: SHA512
> > 
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > As Mart wrote in his reply, my initial issue has been resolved.
> 
> Can you reproduce this issue in the upstream Firefox ESR version?
> Once 
> you have verified that you'll be able to let us know if this is a bug
> in 
> IceCat or not. Can you please do that to help us?
> 
> > 
> > I'm not sure, though, if creating a bug report for this would be
> > appropriate, as IIRC emoji have been a problem in terms of
> > displaying
> > them ever since I installed IceCat (both the downloads from
> > gnu.org/s/gnuzilla and Guix).
> > 
> > Working around the issue at hand is quite easy once you're aware of
> > the
> > about:config options and are not afraid to use it. For me, it
> > wasn't a
> > problem once I got the know-how from Mart, but it may confuse
> > "normal"
> > users who most likely expect emoji to work out-of-the-box.
> > 
> > However, that's just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it.
> > 
> > - -- 
> > Felix Fröhlich
> > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > 
> > On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 21:19 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:
> > > Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> > > > Felix,
> > > > There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
> > > > search
> > > > there just with 'font'.
> > > > 
> > > > The about:config solution is one, though in some operating
> > > > systems,
> > > > browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if
> > > > they
> > > > rely
> > > > on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip
> > > > to
> > > > about:config.
> > > > 
> > > > wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji
> > > > look
> > > > like for you with text?
> > > > For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a
> > > > textarea
> > > > (editing an article).
> > > > 
> > > > wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-
> > > > gnuzilla,
> > > > and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
> > > > anyway, then I won't :cc you.
> > > > 
> > > > -M.
> > > > 
> > > > 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich  > > > vey.
> > > > de>:
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> > > > > 
> > > > > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous
> > > > > reply I
> > > > > sent
> > > > > to Mart. Here you go:
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Hi Mart,
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Great! Thanks for the advice.
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following
> > > > > about:config
> > > > >   settings:
> > > > > 
> > > > >    * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
> > > > >    * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
> > > > >    * font.name.serif.x-unicode
> > > > > 
> > > > >   Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big,
> > > > > though ^^
> > > > > 
> > > > >   I'll play around with the font settings and see if I
> > > > > can
> > > > > manage
> > > > >   this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
> > > > > 
> > > > > - --
> > > > > Felix Fröhlich
> > > > > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > bug-
> > > > > > gnuz
> > > > > > i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the
> > > > > > emoji
> > > > > > (see
> > > > > > below).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know --
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > Noto
> > > > > > Color
> > > > > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the
> > > > > > font
> > > > > > shows up
> > > > > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer
> > > > > > (see
> > > > > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no
> > > > > > big
> > > > > > deal,
> > > > > > really.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks again for your help, Mart!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
> > > > > 
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-21 Thread David Hedlund 
Can you please report this to 
https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?group=gnuzilla ?



On 2018-04-21 08:00, Mart Rootamm wrote:

The color emoji are too large.

When using Android, the color emoji are typically much bigger than the
rest of the text, which I have always thought to be a feature in order
to increase the visibility of any (color) emoji, and not a bug.

In computers that still have Windows xp, I've installed Symbola as the
go-to font for emoji. There, Firefox did not require about:config
tweaks, but the old SeaMonkey 1.1 did.

License change issue with Symbola and other fonts by George Douros.

Symbola and many other fonts are available at below link:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

But I've just discovered, that George Douros has changed the license
of the fonts between 29 January 2018, and 7 March 2018.

The Internet Archive snapshot on 29 January 2018 says:
"In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for any use;"
This includes Symbola 10.23 and many other fonts by Douros.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

The next snapshot from 7 March 2018 says this:
"Free use of the software on this site is strictly limited to
personal, non-commercial use;"
Involves Symbola 10.24 and many other fonts.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180307012615/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

It should be possible to narrow down the date span of the change with
other web archive services.

Word should be spread, that fonts by George Douros are no longer free
in the spirit of GNU.

-Mart.

2018-04-21 3:22 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :

Hi Matt,

As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
(because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
you'd expect emoji to work.

When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.

As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
unusable, not a bug in IceCat.

With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
there's no need to CC me :)

--
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:

Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-21 Thread David Hedlund 



On 2018-04-21 02:29, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

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Hi David,

As Mart wrote in his reply, my initial issue has been resolved.


Can you reproduce this issue in the upstream Firefox ESR version? Once 
you have verified that you'll be able to let us know if this is a bug in 
IceCat or not. Can you please do that to help us?




I'm not sure, though, if creating a bug report for this would be
appropriate, as IIRC emoji have been a problem in terms of displaying
them ever since I installed IceCat (both the downloads from
gnu.org/s/gnuzilla and Guix).

Working around the issue at hand is quite easy once you're aware of the
about:config options and are not afraid to use it. For me, it wasn't a
problem once I got the know-how from Mart, but it may confuse "normal"
users who most likely expect emoji to work out-of-the-box.

However, that's just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it.

- -- 
Felix Fröhlich

GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 21:19 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:

Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?


On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:

Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji
look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-
gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :

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Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
sent
to Mart. Here you go:

  Hi Mart,

  Great! Thanks for the advice.

  I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following
about:config
  settings:

   * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
   * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
   * font.name.serif.x-unicode

  Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big,
though ^^

  I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can
manage
  this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.

- --
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

Hi all,

So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
bug-
gnuz
i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was
the
correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
(see
below).

I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the
Noto
Color
Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
shows up
as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big
deal,
really.

Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

Thanks again for your help, Mart!

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-21 Thread Mart Rootamm 
The color emoji are too large.

When using Android, the color emoji are typically much bigger than the
rest of the text, which I have always thought to be a feature in order
to increase the visibility of any (color) emoji, and not a bug.

In computers that still have Windows xp, I've installed Symbola as the
go-to font for emoji. There, Firefox did not require about:config
tweaks, but the old SeaMonkey 1.1 did.

License change issue with Symbola and other fonts by George Douros.

Symbola and many other fonts are available at below link:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

But I've just discovered, that George Douros has changed the license
of the fonts between 29 January 2018, and 7 March 2018.

The Internet Archive snapshot on 29 January 2018 says:
"In lieu of a licence; fonts and documents in this site are free for any use;"
This includes Symbola 10.23 and many other fonts by Douros.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180129230141/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

The next snapshot from 7 March 2018 says this:
"Free use of the software on this site is strictly limited to
personal, non-commercial use;"
Involves Symbola 10.24 and many other fonts.
Source:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180307012615/http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/

It should be possible to narrow down the date span of the change with
other web archive services.

Word should be spread, that fonts by George Douros are no longer free
in the spirit of GNU.

-Mart.

2018-04-21 3:22 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :
> Hi Matt,
>
> As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
> size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
> (because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
> you'd expect emoji to work.
>
> When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
> shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
> oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
> attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
> second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
> area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.
>
> As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
> installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
> unusable, not a bug in IceCat.
>
> With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
> there's no need to CC me :)
>
> --
> Felix Fröhlich
> GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>
> On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:
>> Felix,
>> There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
>> search
>> there just with 'font'.
>>
>> The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
>> browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
>> rely
>> on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
>> about:config.
>>
>> wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
>> like for you with text?
>> For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
>> (editing an article).
>>
>> wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
>> and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
>> anyway, then I won't :cc you.
>>
>> -M.
>>
>> 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich > >:
>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > Hash: SHA512
>> >
>> > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
>> > sent
>> > to Mart. Here you go:
>> >
>> > Hi Mart,
>> >
>> > Great! Thanks for the advice.
>> >
>> > I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
>> > settings:
>> >
>> >  * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
>> >  * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
>> >  * font.name.serif.x-unicode
>> >
>> > Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though
>> > ^^
>> >
>> > I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
>> > this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
>> >
>> > - --
>> > Felix Fröhlich
>> > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>> >
>> > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
>> > > Hi all,
>> > >
>> > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
>> > > bug-
>> > > gnuz
>> > > i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was
>> > > the
>> > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
>> > >
>> > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
>> > > (see
>> > > below).
>> > >
>> > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
>> > > Color
>> > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
>> > > shows up
>> > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
>> > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to

Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-20 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
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Hi David,

As Mart wrote in his reply, my initial issue has been resolved.

I'm not sure, though, if creating a bug report for this would be
appropriate, as IIRC emoji have been a problem in terms of displaying
them ever since I installed IceCat (both the downloads from
gnu.org/s/gnuzilla and Guix).

Working around the issue at hand is quite easy once you're aware of the
about:config options and are not afraid to use it. For me, it wasn't a
problem once I got the know-how from Mart, but it may confuse "normal"
users who most likely expect emoji to work out-of-the-box.

However, that's just my two cents, so feel free to ignore it.

- -- 
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 21:19 +0200, David Hedlund wrote:
> Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?
> 
> 
> On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> > Felix,
> > There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
> > search
> > there just with 'font'.
> > 
> > The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
> > browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
> > rely
> > on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
> > about:config.
> > 
> > wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji
> > look
> > like for you with text?
> > For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
> > (editing an article).
> > 
> > wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-
> > gnuzilla,
> > and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
> > anyway, then I won't :cc you.
> > 
> > -M.
> > 
> > 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich  > de>:
> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > > Hash: SHA512
> > > 
> > > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
> > > sent
> > > to Mart. Here you go:
> > > 
> > >  Hi Mart,
> > > 
> > >  Great! Thanks for the advice.
> > > 
> > >  I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following
> > > about:config
> > >  settings:
> > > 
> > >   * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
> > >   * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
> > >   * font.name.serif.x-unicode
> > > 
> > >  Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big,
> > > though ^^
> > > 
> > >  I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can
> > > manage
> > >  this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
> > > 
> > > - --
> > > Felix Fröhlich
> > > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > 
> > > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
> > > > bug-
> > > > gnuz
> > > > i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was
> > > > the
> > > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
> > > > 
> > > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
> > > > (see
> > > > below).
> > > > 
> > > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the
> > > > Noto
> > > > Color
> > > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
> > > > shows up
> > > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
> > > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
> > > > uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big
> > > > deal,
> > > > really.
> > > > 
> > > > Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again for your help, Mart!
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
> > > 
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> > > --
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> > > 
> > 
> > --
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> 
> 
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-20 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
Hi Matt,

As for the Noto Emoji font, everything's a-okay. They show up in the
size of the surrounding text, and even though they're not coloured
(because they're not coloured in the font, either), they work just as
you'd expect emoji to work.

When using the Noto Color Emoji font, however, it produces results as
shown in the pictures attached. As you may notice, they are WAY
oversized for the area they're supposed to be displayed in. The first
attachment (emoji-regular.png) shows the emoji as they show up on
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block). The
second one (emoji-textarea.png) shows the emoji when used in a text
area. The emoji was pasted in line 7 as last character on the line.

As I said, though, I am pretty sure the oversized display is due to my
installation of the font (or the font in general?) being corrupted or
unusable, not a bug in IceCat.

With regard to the replies: Yes, I am subscribed to the list, so
there's no need to CC me :)

-- 
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Fri, 2018-04-20 at 20:51 +0300, Mart Rootamm wrote:
> Felix,
> There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you
> search
> there just with 'font'.
> 
> The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
> browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they
> rely
> on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
> about:config.
> 
> wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
> like for you with text?
> For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
> (editing an article).
> 
> wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
> and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
> anyway, then I won't :cc you.
> 
> -M.
> 
> 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich  >:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA512
> > 
> > Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I
> > sent
> > to Mart. Here you go:
> > 
> > Hi Mart,
> > 
> > Great! Thanks for the advice.
> > 
> > I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
> > settings:
> > 
> >  * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
> >  * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
> >  * font.name.serif.x-unicode
> > 
> > Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though
> > ^^
> > 
> > I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
> > this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
> > 
> > - --
> > Felix Fröhlich
> > GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
> > 
> > On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and
> > > bug-
> > > gnuz
> > > i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was
> > > the
> > > correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
> > > 
> > > Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji
> > > (see
> > > below).
> > > 
> > > I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
> > > Color
> > > Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font
> > > shows up
> > > as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
> > > attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
> > > uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big
> > > deal,
> > > really.
> > > 
> > > Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
> > > 
> > > Thanks again for your help, Mart!
> > > 
> > > --
> > > http://gnuzilla.gnu.org
> > 
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-20 Thread Mart Rootamm 
David,

> Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?

Felix's initial issue is resolved. He did complain about the too big
font size for his emoji font, so now I'm waiting for a screenshot from
him.

-M.

2018-04-20 22:19 GMT +03:00, David Hedlund :
> Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?
>
>
> On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:
>> Felix,
>> There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you search
>> there just with 'font'.
>>
>> The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
>> browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they rely
>> on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
>> about:config.
>>
>> wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
>> like for you with text?
>> For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
>> (editing an article).
>>
>> wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
>> and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
>> anyway, then I won't :cc you.
>>
>> -M.
>>
>> 2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :
>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>> Hash: SHA512
>>>
>>> Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I sent
>>> to Mart. Here you go:
>>>
>>>  Hi Mart,
>>>
>>>  Great! Thanks for the advice.
>>>
>>>  I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
>>>  settings:
>>>
>>>   * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
>>>   * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
>>>   * font.name.serif.x-unicode
>>>
>>>  Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though ^^
>>>
>>>  I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
>>>  this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Felix Fröhlich
>>> GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
 Hi all,

 So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-
 gnuz
 i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
 correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

 Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
 below).

 I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
 Color
 Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
 as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
 attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
 uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
 really.

 Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

 Thanks again for your help, Mart!

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-20 Thread David Hedlund 

Mart, is this "Emoji in IceCat" issue a bug or not?


On 2018-04-20 19:51, Mart Rootamm wrote:

Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512

Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I sent
to Mart. Here you go:

 Hi Mart,

 Great! Thanks for the advice.

 I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
 settings:

  * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
  * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
  * font.name.serif.x-unicode

 Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though ^^

 I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
 this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.

- --
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

Hi all,

So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-
gnuz
i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
below).

I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
Color
Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
really.

Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

Thanks again for your help, Mart!

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-20 Thread Mart Rootamm 
Felix,
There are additional font size settings in about:config, if you search
there just with 'font'.

The about:config solution is one, though in some operating systems,
browsers typically default to the closest possible match, if they rely
on the OS to match missing characters, thus precluding the trip to
about:config.

wrt font size, can you send a screenshot of what the Noto emoji look
like for you with text?
For example, both in a plain Wikipedia article, and in a textarea
(editing an article).

wrt to replies, then I originally sent a reply both to bug-gnuzilla,
and a carbon copy to you. On assumption, that you've subscribed
anyway, then I won't :cc you.

-M.

2018-04-20 0:52 GMT +03:00, Felix Fröhlich :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I sent
> to Mart. Here you go:
>
> Hi Mart,
>
> Great! Thanks for the advice.
>
> I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
> settings:
>
>  * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
>  * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
>  * font.name.serif.x-unicode
>
> Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though ^^
>
> I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
> this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.
>
> - --
> Felix Fröhlich
> GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F
>
> On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-
>> gnuz
>> i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
>> correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
>>
>> Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
>> below).
>>
>> I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
>> Color
>> Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
>> as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
>> attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
>> uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
>> really.
>>
>> Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help, Mart!
>>
>> --
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-19 Thread David Hedlund 
I'm glad that you solved the issue, so it's not an IceCat bug after all 
or what?



On 2018-04-19 23:33, Felix Fröhlich wrote:

Hi all,

So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-gnuz
i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
below).

I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto Color
Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
really.

Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

Thanks again for your help, Mart!



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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-19 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
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Hash: SHA512

Whoops. Apparently that email didn't include the previous reply I sent
to Mart. Here you go:

Hi Mart,

Great! Thanks for the advice.

I added the Noto Color Emoji font to the following about:config
settings:

 * font.name.monospace.x-unicode
 * font.name.sans-serif.x-unicode
 * font.name.serif.x-unicode

Now the Emoji actually do show up. They're way too big, though ^^

I'll play around with the font settings and see if I can manage
this; Maybe I'll have to use a different font.

- -- 
Felix Fröhlich
GnuPG: AC26CC3F517BA1794743512E32E7A8DAB442426F

On Thu, 2018-04-19 at 23:33 +0200, Felix Fröhlich wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-
> gnuz
> i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
> correct email address... Please don't ask me why.
> 
> Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
> below).
> 
> I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto
> Color
> Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
> as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
> attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
> uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
> really.
> 
> Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.
> 
> Thanks again for your help, Mart!
> 
> --
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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-19 Thread Felix Fröhlich 
Hi all,

So, erm, that was... not optimal. I wrote the mail to Mart and bug-gnuz
i...@lists.gnu.org because for some reason I believed that was the
correct email address... Please don't ask me why.

Anyhow, with Mart's help I figured out how to display the emoji (see
below).

I also found out that -- for some reason I don't know -- the Noto Color
Emoji font on my system appears to be corrupted, as the font shows up
as what looks like a rounded square in gnome-font-viewer (see
attachment). Not sure what causes this, but I fell back to the
uncoloured version of that font, namely Noto Emoji. It's no big deal,
really.

Now all emoji that I wanted to display show up just fine.

Thanks again for your help, Mart!

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Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] Emoji in IceCat

2018-04-19 Thread Mart Rootamm 
Hi, Felix.
To test again, if things work with less resource usage, use this Wikipedia
template:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Emoji_(Unicode_block)

To the best of my knowledge, the address bar and the textarea employ
different fonts.

The textarea should be easy:

You'll have to add the color emoji font name to the comma-separated list of
font substitutes in about:config, including at the end of the list in
font.name.monospace.x-unicode
.

The address bar could be dependent on OS-level settings.

-M.
18.04.2018 21:54 kirjutas kuupäeval "Felix Fröhlich" <
felix.froehl...@convey.de>:

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> Hi everyone,
>
> I've been trying to work out how to get emoji and other symbols working
> in IceCat 52.6.0 on Debian 9 but failed (mostly, see below).
>
> What I tried is the following:
>
>  * Because I installed IceCat via GNU Guix, I installed some fonts that
>are capable of displaying Emoji. In my case, that was the Guix
>package font-google-noto. It shows up when running fc-list.
>  * To test if that sufficed to display Emoji, I went to the [Full Emoji
>List][1] by the Unicode Consortium (WARNING: opening may cause long
>loading times!) and noticed that a good number of the emoji listed
>in the "Browser" column were actually displayed. Inspecting those
>emoji via right mouse click → "Inspect Element" → "Fonts" in the
>pane on the right revealed that they were, indeed, using the font
>Noto Color Emoji (system). So far, so good.
>  * Then I tried copying some of them (namely U+1F465 , U+1F3F7  and
>U+1F6E0 ) to the [searx instance I'm using][2], the address bar of
>IceCat and the post area on the [diaspora* pod I'm using][3]. In all
>three of these locations, the emoji show up as blank space. Also, in
>contrast to the Unicode page above, Noto Color Emoji does not show
>up as used font.
>  * Modifying the fonts for Latin in about:preferences#content to Noto
>and prohibiting pages from choosing their own fonts didn't help,
>either.
>
> I have some extensions installed that may interfere with fonts:
>
>  * uBlock Origins: Remote fonts are enabled on all affected sites.
>  * uMatrix: CSS is enabled everywhere.
>  * NoScript: @font-face is allowed everywhere.
>  * IceCatHome: Enabling/disabling the "Use system fonts" option doesn't
>  change IceCat's ability to display Emoji, even after restarting.
>
> Do you know of anything that I have missed and could check to see why
> IceCat doesn't display Emoji unless on unicode.org?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
>
>  [1]: https://unicode.org/emoji/charts/full-emoji-list.html
>  [2]: https://searx.ch/
>  [3]: https://diasporing.ch/
>
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