Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Hunt
It would be quite nice if the OpenBSD releases were available via a Torrent. I apologize if this message duplicates a common report, but if that is the case please take this as my vote! Cheers and many thanks for all the awesome coding, Brian -- *from the personal email account of:* *Brian

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
It would be quite nice if the OpenBSD releases were available via a Torrent. There are people who do that. I don't think the OpenBSD Project needs to operate them. Now that things are signed, the situation has changed. You really should figure out a way to verify the bootable media you

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Hunt
Thank you Theo. As an alternative to operating the torrents, perhaps it might be convenient for users if the OpenBSD page linked to those who provide torrents, and as you note, mentioning the need and method to verify the media. Cheers On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Theo de Raadt

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Bob Beck
Really, if the project is not operating them I don't think we should be sanctioning any sort of third party site, or somehow adding some sort of legitimacy to it by suggesting people go there, or cranking up the page rank of some torrent site by linking it. We link the stuff the project sanctions

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Hunt
Bob: I think that's sensible; I did not know the mirrors were sanctioned, and so believed linking to the torrent sites would be equivalent in that sense. Theo: I have not expressed the suggestion ideally, I think. It was not a suggestion for my benefit, I do not use torrents, but for the benefit

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Theo: I have not expressed the suggestion ideally, I think. It was not a suggestion for my benefit, I do not use torrents, but for the benefit of your audience generally. Also, sanctioning torrents gives users a way to contribute back to the project by seeding/mirroring. Wow, how

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Theo, do you find that responses like this lead to constructive relationships and meaningful contributions? I would expect they would deter contributors and sponsors alike, ultimately being isolating and self-defeating. Sorry for not being a bit torrent hipster.

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Brian Hunt
Theo, Sorry for taking up your time on this Torrent topic. Appreciate your responses. Wow, how unbelievably giving of them! Their sacrifice must be unbelievable, like a mother to her child. Theo, do you find that responses like this lead to constructive relationships and meaningful

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Stuart Henderson
Between them, the file mirrors listed on ftp.html have significant bandwidth available, and it's not like this is some 4GB-per-arch OS for a basic installation, you're talking a couple of hundred MB. Just pick a mirror from the list and download the relevant installation files. If it's too slow,

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Bob Beck
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 1:16 PM, Stuart Henderson st...@openbsd.org wrote: london 440Mbit/sec Stuart.. Allow me to express this thought in the kindest way possible.. I hate you.. you bastard... :)

Re: Download releases via Torrent

2014-05-01 Thread Theo de Raadt
Thank you Theo. As an alternative to operating the torrents, perhaps it might be convenient for users if the OpenBSD page linked to those who provide torrents, and as you note, mentioning the need and method to verify the media. Inside the project, we have a phrase for that. mission creep.