Re: [Callers] Contralab, gypsylab

2018-03-30 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
Hi Tom, I think non-standardization is just fine. We've lived with it in the contra world since . . . whenever. I think it's a strength, not a problem. I brought up the Callerlab concept because some of the issues we are having today with terminology were analogous issues in the square dance

[Callers] Contralab, gypsylab

2018-03-30 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
Woody, I haven't heard anyone suggest standardization and I'm not pushing for it. My whole issue has been freedom so whatever people want to use if fine by me. At one time, around 2011 I thought the use of different terms by callers might lead to problems but now I don't think that's the

Re: [Callers] freedom

2018-03-30 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
These are good points, and they bring up a larger situation. Presumably, Tom accepted the gig months ahead of the date (like all of us). A few days before the gig, he receives the new "rule". Does anyone think that there might be a slight ethical problem here? When we accept a gig, it's an

Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

2018-03-30 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
Hi Tom, Sure. The first paragraph describes the current situation regarding the use of a controversial single word. The second paragraph steps back and looks at the bigger picture within our community. My speculation that the animus and hard feelings that this word has elicited among

Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?contra lab.

2018-03-30 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
Rich, I'm not clear why Woody's question is directed to me. And I see he's indicating that's this long involved conversation about terminology is related to creating a callerlab for contra. I'm not clear on his thinking so I suppose I'll have to hear from him before honestly responding This

Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

2018-03-30 Thread Rich Sbardella via Callers
As a member of Callerlab for 25 years, I can answer Woody's question with a definitive "NO". Callerlab does offer many benefits, but it has its drawbacks as well. Standardization was supposed to be a good thing, and perhaps in the MWSD world that is more good than bad, but it also diminishes the

Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

2018-03-30 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
Woody, I really don't understand your question. Please connect the dots. Sent from my iPad > On Mar 30, 2018, at 2:20 AM, Woody Lane via Callers > wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Earlier this year in Eugene, a caller was struggling with trying to be extra > careful

Re: [Callers] Politically Correct?

2018-03-30 Thread Woody Lane via Callers
Hi Tom, Earlier this year in Eugene, a caller was struggling with trying to be extra careful with alternative terms for gypsy. She referred to the "g-word" and then tried using other terms. She was actually trying to demonstrate something else on the floor. The crowd said in a friendly way