Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Dale Wilson via Callers]

The Partner Box the Gnat (across) at the end of A1 leaves partners facing
opposite directions (one up the hall,the other down).
One is looking at a new neighbor, the other is looking at the neighbor they
were just dancing with.  Who swings who?

This needs clarification.

Dale

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 11:34 AM Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house
> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.
> Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for
> Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?
> Thanks for your input!
>
> Jean Gorrindo
>
> Breakfast at Penelope’s
> by Jean Gorrindo
> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>
> A1 ---
> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right,
> Neighbor Left)
> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
> A2 ---
> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> B1 ---
> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
> (8) Partner swing
> B2 ---
> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[John Sweeney via Callers]

A Box the Gnat finishes with you facing the person you did it with.  So 
everyone has to turn 90 degrees to face their neighbour for A2.

 

On another point.  It is not a Square Through!  (Sorry, just checked Callerlab: 
Square Thru!)

 

A Square Thru finishes with your back to the last person you passed.  In this 
dance, after the last Pull By you need to turn to face your Partner who is at 
90 degrees to you.

 

It is actually Two Changes (of Rights & Lefts).

 

Square Thru N is a particular case of N Changes; in Square Thru the end facing 
(not normally defined in N Changes) is specified.

 

Or has the Contra community now redefined this square dance term for their own 
purposes?  :-)

 

Happy dancing,  

   John   



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From: Callers  On Behalf Of Jerome 
Grisanti via Callers
Sent: 09 September 2018 16:43
To: Jean Gibson-Gorrindo ; callers 

Subject: Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

 

Jean,

 

At the end of the A2 Box the Gnat, the gents have their backs toward their 
original neighbor and so must release the box-the-gnat hand with intention in 
order to turn their body into the neighbor balance & swing. Not necessarily a 
problem, just a heads-up. The ladies, it appears, will be facing toward their 
neighbor so not an issue for them.

 

--Jerome

 

 




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magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

 

 

On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 11:34 AM Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net> > wrote:

Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house this 
morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  Wrote it 
with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for Penelope 
Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  Thanks for your 
input!

Jean Gorrindo

Breakfast at Penelope’s
by Jean Gorrindo
Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression

A1 ---
(8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, Neighbor 
Left)
(8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
A2 ---
(16) Neighbor balance and swing
B1 ---
(8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B2 ---
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Chris Page via Callers]

In contra, I find 2 beats per pull-by and 1 beat per quarter turn
works out nicely.

When it's done with balances, and quick pull-bys, people can cheat by
trimming the balance times.

When it gets done as 8 beats for a square through four without
balances, the floor becomes rather choppy, to say the least.

-Chris Page
San Diego, CA
On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 7:57 AM Rich Sbardella via Callers
 wrote:
>
> In MWSD it is the fact that the dancers are not adjacent to each other, the 
> two beats allow them to get into the center and then they have 8 beats to 
> square thru.
> -Rich
>
> On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:48 AM Nick Cuccia via Callers 
>  wrote:
>>
>> Could hand technique be contributing to square thrus taking more than
>> two beats per exchange?  One of my long-past English dance instructors
>> taught pull-by hands as almost a quick handshake-and-release, where
>> you're no longer in contact by the time you're shoulder-to-shoulder.  If
>> the dancers maintain contact for longer than that, one of them is almost
>> certainly going to have less than a 1/4 turn after the exchange, while
>> the other will have more than a 1/4 turn.  I've observed this phenomena
>> even in 16-beat square thrus with balances preceding the first and third
>> exchanges.
>>
>> --Nick
>>
>> [Stuff below Rich's response snipped]
>>
>> On 09/08/2018 09:34 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
>> > The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a
>> > static square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they
>> > would be after the heads star thru.
>> >
>> > In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
>> >
>> > Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
>> > Lines F
>> > 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
>> > Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at
>> > the sides static position.
>> > Corner Swg & Promenade
>> >
>> > In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
>> >
>> > Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
>> > RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
>> > Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
>> > Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
>> >
>> > In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose
>> > rather than across the set.
>> >
>> > Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10
>> > is a good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
>> >
>> > Rich
>> >
>>
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Jerome Grisanti via Callers]

Jean,

At the end of the A2 Box the Gnat, the gents have their backs toward their
original neighbor and so must release the box-the-gnat hand with intention
in order to turn their body into the neighbor balance & swing. Not
necessarily a problem, just a heads-up. The ladies, it appears, will be
facing toward their neighbor so not an issue for them.

--Jerome



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On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 11:34 AM Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house
> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.
> Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for
> Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?
> Thanks for your input!
>
> Jean Gorrindo
>
> Breakfast at Penelope’s
> by Jean Gorrindo
> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>
> A1 ---
> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right,
> Neighbor Left)
> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
> A2 ---
> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> B1 ---
> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
> (8) Partner swing
> B2 ---
> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

In MWSD it is the fact that the dancers are not adjacent to each other, the
two beats allow them to get into the center and then they have 8 beats to
square thru.
-Rich

On Sun, Sep 9, 2018 at 2:48 AM Nick Cuccia via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Could hand technique be contributing to square thrus taking more than
> two beats per exchange?  One of my long-past English dance instructors
> taught pull-by hands as almost a quick handshake-and-release, where
> you're no longer in contact by the time you're shoulder-to-shoulder.  If
> the dancers maintain contact for longer than that, one of them is almost
> certainly going to have less than a 1/4 turn after the exchange, while
> the other will have more than a 1/4 turn.  I've observed this phenomena
> even in 16-beat square thrus with balances preceding the first and third
> exchanges.
>
> --Nick
>
> [Stuff below Rich's response snipped]
>
> On 09/08/2018 09:34 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
> > The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a
> > static square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they
> > would be after the heads star thru.
> >
> > In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
> >
> > Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
> > Lines F
> > 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
> > Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at
> > the sides static position.
> > Corner Swg & Promenade
> >
> > In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
> >
> > Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
> > RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
> > Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
> > Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
> >
> > In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose
> > rather than across the set.
> >
> > Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10
> > is a good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
> >
> > Rich
> >
>
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Nick Cuccia via Callers]

Could hand technique be contributing to square thrus taking more than
two beats per exchange?  One of my long-past English dance instructors
taught pull-by hands as almost a quick handshake-and-release, where
you're no longer in contact by the time you're shoulder-to-shoulder.  If
the dancers maintain contact for longer than that, one of them is almost
certainly going to have less than a 1/4 turn after the exchange, while
the other will have more than a 1/4 turn.  I've observed this phenomena
even in 16-beat square thrus with balances preceding the first and third
exchanges.

--Nick 

[Stuff below Rich's response snipped]

On 09/08/2018 09:34 PM, Rich Sbardella via Callers wrote:
> The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a
> static square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they
> would be after the heads star thru. 
>
> In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
>
> Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
> Lines F
> 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
> Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at
> the sides static position.
> Corner Swg & Promenade
>
> In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
>
> Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
> RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
> Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
> Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
>
> In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose
> rather than across the set.
>
> Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10
> is a good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
>
> Rich
>

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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Alan Winston via Callers]

It really doesn’t make much difference in this case since the domino will take 
8 beats if there’s 8 beats left.  I was just curious about 10 for the square 
through - in English dancing we do have eight beat circular heys (like 
“Collier’s Daughter”)  but the convention is usually not to take hands on those 
fast ones, so it’s more like a mini weave the ring. On the other hand contras 
have a lot of interrupted square through where there’s a four-beat balance and 
a four-beat square through 2, so it can be done.

— Alan

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 9:34 PM, Rich Sbardella  wrote:
> 
> The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a static 
> square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they would be after 
> the heads star thru. 
> 
> In the following square I would allow 10 beats.
> 
> Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
> Lines F
> 2 ladies Chain Across and Back
> Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at the 
> sides static position.
> Corner Swg & Promenade
> 
> In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.
> 
> Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
> RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
> Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
> Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)
> 
> In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose rather 
> than across the set.
> 
> Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10 is a 
> good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.
> 
> Rich
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 8:57 PM Tom Hinds via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> I’ve mulled over the timing of square through 4 for some time.  10 is what 
>> I’ve come up with after walking it through in my living room and more 
>> importantly watching the dancers do it in dances I’ve written.
>> 
>> Much depends on where you end and start and also on formation (squared set 
>> or contra) because of the spacing.
>> 
>> As an example, in The Amazing Sara Wilcox the square through three from 
>> lines facing across into lines facing out comfortably takes 8 steps.  In 
>> other situations maybe square through 3 could be done in 6.
>> 
>> Some may say that square through two (followed by a balance) takes 4, so a 
>> square through 4 would take 8.  My way of thinking is that the longer and 
>> more complicated the figure, the more you have to give the dancers some 
>> extra beats.  And square through 2 in 4 beats is a bit rushed.
>> 
>> Try it out during a break at your next dance and let me know what you come 
>> up with.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Sep 8, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Alan Winston  wrote:
>> > 
>> > Tom —
>> > 
>> > Why is the square through 4 10 beats?  
>> > 
>> > — Alan
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> > 
>> >> On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would be 
>> >> surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a double 
>> >> progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?
>> >> 
>> >> You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one 
>> >> here, just very much enjoy writing dances. 
>> >> 
>> >> Lunch with Jean
>> >> Improper 
>> >> 
>> >> A1. Bal. P, square through 2
>> >>   Bal P, box the gnat
>> >> 
>> >> A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite direction 
>> >> as the first square through and starting by giving right hand to partner, 
>> >> 10 beats)
>> >>   With original neighbor do si do, (6)
>> >> 
>> >> B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner
>> >> 
>> >> B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.
>> >> 
>> >> Tom Hinds
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s 
>> >>> house this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this 
>> >>> dance.  Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also 
>> >>> written for Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already 
>> >>> out there?  Thanks for your input!
>> >>> 
>> >>> Jean Gorrindo
>> >>> 
>> >>> Breakfast at Penelope’s
>> >>> by Jean Gorrindo
>> >>> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>> >>> 
>> >>> A1 ---
>> >>> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, 
>> >>> Neighbor Left)
>> >>> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
>> >>> A2 ---
>> >>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>> >>> B1 ---
>> >>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
>> >>> (8) Partner swing
>> >>> B2 ---
>> >>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>> >>> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Rich Sbardella via Callers]

The Callerlab timing chart has square thru taking 10 beats from a static
square and 8 beats from (closer( facing couples such as they would be after
the heads star thru.

In the following square I would allow 10 beats.

Heads Lead Right & Circle to a Line,
Lines F
2 ladies Chain Across and Back
Has Square Thru 4  (This square thru is from a line of four that is at the
sides static position.
Corner Swg & Promenade

In the square, below, I would use 8 beats for the second square thru.

Heads Sq Thru 4 (10)
RH Star (8), LH Star (8)
Corner DSD (6), Sq Thru 4 (8)
Can Swg (8), Promenade (16)

In this square the dancers start the second square thru nose to nose rather
than across the set.

Most contra would be starting a square thru from across the set, so 10 is a
good number, if it starts after a balance, 8 would be wiser.

Rich







On Sat, Sep 8, 2018 at 8:57 PM Tom Hinds via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> I’ve mulled over the timing of square through 4 for some time.  10 is what
> I’ve come up with after walking it through in my living room and more
> importantly watching the dancers do it in dances I’ve written.
>
> Much depends on where you end and start and also on formation (squared set
> or contra) because of the spacing.
>
> As an example, in The Amazing Sara Wilcox the square through three from
> lines facing across into lines facing out comfortably takes 8 steps.  In
> other situations maybe square through 3 could be done in 6.
>
> Some may say that square through two (followed by a balance) takes 4, so a
> square through 4 would take 8.  My way of thinking is that the longer and
> more complicated the figure, the more you have to give the dancers some
> extra beats.  And square through 2 in 4 beats is a bit rushed.
>
> Try it out during a break at your next dance and let me know what you come
> up with.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Sep 8, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Alan Winston 
> wrote:
> >
> > Tom —
> >
> > Why is the square through 4 10 beats?
> >
> > — Alan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would
> be surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a
> double progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?
> >>
> >> You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one
> here, just very much enjoy writing dances.
> >>
> >> Lunch with Jean
> >> Improper
> >>
> >> A1. Bal. P, square through 2
> >>   Bal P, box the gnat
> >>
> >> A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite
> direction as the first square through and starting by giving right hand to
> partner, 10 beats)
> >>   With original neighbor do si do, (6)
> >>
> >> B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner
> >>
> >> B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.
> >>
> >> Tom Hinds
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s
> house this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this
> dance.  Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written
> for Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?
> Thanks for your input!
> >>>
> >>> Jean Gorrindo
> >>>
> >>> Breakfast at Penelope’s
> >>> by Jean Gorrindo
> >>> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
> >>>
> >>> A1 ---
> >>> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right,
> Neighbor Left)
> >>> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
> >>> A2 ---
> >>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> >>> B1 ---
> >>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
> >>> (8) Partner swing
> >>> B2 ---
> >>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> >>> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

I’ve mulled over the timing of square through 4 for some time.  10 is what I’ve 
come up with after walking it through in my living room and more importantly 
watching the dancers do it in dances I’ve written.

Much depends on where you end and start and also on formation (squared set or 
contra) because of the spacing.

As an example, in The Amazing Sara Wilcox the square through three from lines 
facing across into lines facing out comfortably takes 8 steps.  In other 
situations maybe square through 3 could be done in 6.

Some may say that square through two (followed by a balance) takes 4, so a 
square through 4 would take 8.  My way of thinking is that the longer and more 
complicated the figure, the more you have to give the dancers some extra beats. 
 And square through 2 in 4 beats is a bit rushed.

Try it out during a break at your next dance and let me know what you come up 
with.



Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 8, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Alan Winston  wrote:
> 
> Tom —
> 
> Why is the square through 4 10 beats?  
> 
> — Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would be 
>> surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a double 
>> progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?
>> 
>> You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one here, 
>> just very much enjoy writing dances. 
>> 
>> Lunch with Jean
>> Improper 
>> 
>> A1. Bal. P, square through 2
>>   Bal P, box the gnat
>> 
>> A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite direction as 
>> the first square through and starting by giving right hand to partner, 10 
>> beats)
>>   With original neighbor do si do, (6)
>> 
>> B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner
>> 
>> B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.
>> 
>> Tom Hinds
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house 
>>> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  
>>> Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for 
>>> Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  
>>> Thanks for your input!
>>> 
>>> Jean Gorrindo
>>> 
>>> Breakfast at Penelope’s
>>> by Jean Gorrindo
>>> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>>> 
>>> A1 ---
>>> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, 
>>> Neighbor Left)
>>> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
>>> A2 ---
>>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>>> B1 ---
>>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
>>> (8) Partner swing
>>> B2 ---
>>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>>> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Alan Winston via Callers]

Tom —

Why is the square through 4 10 beats?  

— Alan

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> On Sep 8, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would be 
> surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a double 
> progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?
> 
> You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one here, 
> just very much enjoy writing dances. 
> 
> Lunch with Jean
> Improper 
> 
> A1. Bal. P, square through 2
>Bal P, box the gnat
> 
> A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite direction as 
> the first square through and starting by giving right hand to partner, 10 
> beats)
>With original neighbor do si do, (6)
> 
> B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner
> 
> B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.
> 
> Tom Hinds
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house 
>> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  
>> Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for 
>> Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  
>> Thanks for your input!
>> 
>> Jean Gorrindo
>> 
>> Breakfast at Penelope’s
>> by Jean Gorrindo
>> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>> 
>> A1 ---
>> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, 
>> Neighbor Left)
>> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
>> A2 ---
>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>> B1 ---
>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
>> (8) Partner swing
>> B2 ---
>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

Correction.  The second square through is the same direction. 

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> On Sep 8, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Tom Hinds via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would be 
> surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a double 
> progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?
> 
> You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one here, 
> just very much enjoy writing dances. 
> 
> Lunch with Jean
> Improper 
> 
> A1. Bal. P, square through 2
>Bal P, box the gnat
> 
> A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite direction as 
> the first square through and starting by giving right hand to partner, 10 
> beats)
>With original neighbor do si do, (6)
> 
> B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner
> 
> B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.
> 
> Tom Hinds
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house 
>> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  
>> Wrote it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for 
>> Penelope Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  
>> Thanks for your input!
>> 
>> Jean Gorrindo
>> 
>> Breakfast at Penelope’s
>> by Jean Gorrindo
>> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
>> 
>> A1 ---
>> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, 
>> Neighbor Left)
>> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
>> A2 ---
>> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>> B1 ---
>> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
>> (8) Partner swing
>> B2 ---
>> (8) Long lines, forward and back
>> (8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Tom Hinds via Callers]

Jean, nice dance.  Let us know how it goes if you try it out.  I would be 
surprised if your dance has been written before.  You list it as a double 
progression.  Is that because you swing the second neighbor?

You gave me an idea for a new dance.  I’m not trying to out do any one here, 
just very much enjoy writing dances. 

Lunch with Jean
Improper 

A1. Bal. P, square through 2
Bal P, box the gnat

A2. With new neighbors, square through 4 (going in the opposite direction as 
the first square through and starting by giving right hand to partner, 10 beats)
With original neighbor do si do, (6)

B1 Men allemande left 1/2 (or pull by) swing partner

B2  Right and left through, ladies chain.

Tom Hinds



> On Sep 8, 2018, at 12:34 PM, Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house 
> this morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  Wrote 
> it with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for Penelope 
> Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  Thanks for your 
> input!
> 
> Jean Gorrindo
> 
> Breakfast at Penelope’s
> by Jean Gorrindo
> Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression
> 
> A1 ---
> (8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, Neighbor 
> Left)
> (8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
> A2 ---
> (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> B1 ---
> (8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
> (8) Partner swing
> B2 ---
> (8) Long lines, forward and back
> (8) Women's Chain
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[Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Jean Gibson-Gorrindo via Callers]

Hello Callers!  Around the breakfast table at Penelope Weinberger’s house this 
morning, while on tour with Cloud Ten, I came up with this dance.  Wrote it 
with the Sam Bartlett tune Penelope’s Cruise (also written for Penelope 
Weinberger) in mind.   Wondering if it is already out there?  Thanks for your 
input!

Jean Gorrindo

Breakfast at Penelope’s
by Jean Gorrindo
Contra/Improper/Easy-Int/Double Progression

A1 ---
(8) Partner R-Hand Balance; Square Thru (pull by Partner with Right, Neighbor 
Left)
(8) Partner Balance & Box the Gnat
A2 ---
(16) Neighbor balance and swing
B1 ---
(8) Women allemande Right 1-1/2
(8) Partner swing
B2 ---
(8) Long lines, forward and back
(8) Women's Chain
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Jerome Grisanti via Callers]

I could visualize giving a left hand to your partner to help the transition
from petronella spin to ladies chain. The ladies' orientation remains
facing into the set, while the gents would spin a bit more and face out,
with a left-hand pull-by helping ladies into the chain and the gents into
position for the courtesy turn.

The real challenge would seem to be the screams of dancers who don't get
their mandatory swing. :-)

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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Hey Martha,
   I agree some dances are entirely too clockwise.  But there's a difference 
between graceful shifts in direction to unwind, like circle L to Cir R with the 
next, or M alle L to P Alle R, or such, and contactless momentum changes.  Some 
of us spin hard.  With nothing but our own knees and muscles to accomplish the 
shift, it's gonna feel awkward, not a poise point.  But to each their own 
opinion.  I think the dance gets you progressed and all, so if the question is 
will it "work", yeah.  Not convinced about all the transitions.  Shrug.  
Andrea

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> On Apr 11, 2017, at 2:39 AM, Martha Wild via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all. Actually, I think the transition from the petronella to the ladies 
> chain is a good one. There are certain moves in dancing, that I’ve heard 
> called “poise points,” where one purposefully switches direction, and it can 
> be very satisfying. For me, the spin to the right feels like the winding up 
> of a spring that you then unleash in the other direction. Some dances that 
> look as if they have good flow end up having so much clockwise spin that it 
> tires people.
> 
>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Esther,
>>If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying 
>> to go from a petronella to a chain.  As you spin R, it is the left hand 
>> which feels available as you face the set because your body has been 
>> rotating clockwise, even as it move CCW around the minor set. So there will 
>> be this washing machine action to get into the chain.  You might be counting 
>> on the claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an 
>> especially satisfying entry into the chain.  A gents chain, otoh, would be 
>> peachy.
>> 
>> What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?  
>> 
>> Best,
>> Andrea
>> 
>> Sent from my external brain
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey folks,
>>> 
>>> Has anyone seen this dance already?
>>> 
>>> A1: Balance the ring & petronella
>>>Ladies Chain
>>> A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
>>> B1: Ladies Chain
>>>   P Allemande L
>>> B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
>>>Balance the ring & California twirl
>>> 
>>> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande 
>>> Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it 
>>> somewhere, but I can't remember where.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Martha Wild via Callers]

Hi, all. Actually, I think the transition from the petronella to the ladies 
chain is a good one. There are certain moves in dancing, that I’ve heard called 
“poise points,” where one purposefully switches direction, and it can be very 
satisfying. For me, the spin to the right feels like the winding up of a spring 
that you then unleash in the other direction. Some dances that look as if they 
have good flow end up having so much clockwise spin that it tires people.

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:48 PM, Andrea Nettleton via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Esther,
>If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying 
> to go from a petronella to a chain.  As you spin R, it is the left hand which 
> feels available as you face the set because your body has been rotating 
> clockwise, even as it move CCW around the minor set. So there will be this 
> washing machine action to get into the chain.  You might be counting on the 
> claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an especially 
> satisfying entry into the chain.  A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.
> 
> What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?  
> 
> Best,
> Andrea
> 
> Sent from my external brain
> 
> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers 
> > 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hey folks,
>> 
>> Has anyone seen this dance already?
>> 
>> A1: Balance the ring & petronella
>>Ladies Chain
>> A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
>> B1: Ladies Chain
>>   P Allemande L
>> B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
>>Balance the ring & California twirl
>> 
>> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande 
>> Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it 
>> somewhere, but I can't remember where.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Esther Fraser
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Andrea Nettleton via Callers]

Hi Esther,
   If anyone has not mentioned it, I feel there is a kink in the flow trying to 
go from a petronella to a chain.  As you spin R, it is the left hand which 
feels available as you face the set because your body has been rotating 
clockwise, even as it move CCW around the minor set. So there will be this 
washing machine action to get into the chain.  You might be counting on the 
claps to arrest that movement, but I still feel it's not an especially 
satisfying entry into the chain.  A gents chain, otoh, would be peachy.

What, to you, is the hook in this dance? What were you going for?  

Best,
Andrea

Sent from my external brain

> On Apr 10, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks,
> 
> Has anyone seen this dance already?
> 
> A1: Balance the ring & petronella
>Ladies Chain
> A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
> B1: Ladies Chain
>   P Allemande L
> B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
>Balance the ring & California twirl
> 
> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande 
> Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it 
> somewhere, but I can't remember where.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Don Veino via Callers]

Hi Esther,

Such a move is in my Greenfield Tornado dance. Choreo and a video link is
on my blog post . I'm not aware of any other
dance until now which used this combination, but would be happy to give
credit to a prior pioneer.

-Don

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Esther Fraser via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into
> Allemande Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen
> it somewhere, but I can't remember where.

[Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Esther Fraser via Callers]

Hey folks,

Has anyone seen this dance already?

A1: Balance the ring & petronella
   Ladies Chain
A2: Full Hey, Ladies pass R (16)
B1: Ladies Chain
  P Allemande L
B2: Balance the ring & Petronella
   Balance the ring & California twirl

Also interested in other dances that have a Ladies' Chain to into Allemande
Left (with the one you chain to) combo. I think I might have seen it
somewhere, but I can't remember where.

Thanks,
Esther Fraser

Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Ric Goldman - Letsdance via Callers]

Hi Seth,



I don't recall an exact match, but it's similar to Big Easy by Becky Hill:



A1 N B+S

A2 LLFB; Ladies alle R 1.5

B1 P B+S

B2 Cir L 3/4; Bal ring, pass thru



or CJ's Delight by Amy Kahn:



A1 N B+S

A2 LLFB; Ladies alle R 1.5

B1 P Gypsy+Sw

B2 Ps promenade CCW; Cal Twirl



and very close to Heritage Reel by Tony Parkes:



A1 N B+S

A2 LLFB; Gents alle L 1.5

B1 P B+S

B2 Half promenade; ladies chain 



Hope this helps.



Thanx, Ric Goldman

letsda...@rgoldman.org



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A1: N B

A2: LLFB; Gents Allemande L 1.5

B1: P B

B2: P promenade across; Circle Left 3/4, N pull by



It seems so obvious that someone must have written it before. 





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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Tony Parkes via Callers]

Seth Tepfer wrote: [Does this dance already exist?]



> A1: N B

> A2: LLFB; Gents Allemande L 1.5

> B1: P B

> B2: P promenade across; Circle Left 3/4, N pull by

> It seems so obvious that someone must have written it before.

It's similar to two of mine. I could have tweaked one or the other to produce 
the sequence above, but I decided I didn't want to give a name to every 
possible variation I could think of.

Heritage Reel (May 1988)
A.1: N B
A.2: LLF M AL 1.5
B.1: P B
B.2: P prom across; W Ch

Solstice Special (June 1991)
A.1: N Dosi
A.2: LLF M AL 1.5
B.1: P Gyp
B.2: P prom across; circle L 3/4, pass thru


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[Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Tepfer, Seth via Callers]

A1: N B

A2: LLFB; Gents Allemande L 1.5

B1: P B

B2: P promenade across; Circle Left 3/4, N pull by

It seems so obvious that someone must have written it before.


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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Don Veino via Callers]

'Twere me, I'd simply flip the original A1. LH Star into Circle Left back
then P Dosi flows and allows the P to assist into the Dosi for more
"connectedness".

I'm a little concerned about the bumping possibility from a simultaneous
all P Dosi across the set but if there's enough space a "spread out" tip
could handle that.

-Don

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> The right hand star also flows better into the do-si-do, n'est-ce pas?
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <
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>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:
>> >
>> > duple minor, improper:
>> > A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star
>> > A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
>> > B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
>> > B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing
>>
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Erik Hoffman via Callers]

Two things in the email:
1) Comment on Seth's Possibly New Dance
2) A Possibly New Dance I made up

==
= 1) Seth's Dance ==
==

>  Aahz Maruch aked:
>>  A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star
>
>  Did you intend to reverse direction or should that be a right-hand star?

And Chris Lahey suggested a star right into Ptnr DSD may flow smoother

about Seth's possibly new dance:
> duple minor, improper:
> A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star
> A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
> B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing

A circle left followed by a left hand star, with a reverse of direction 
is, in my collection, far more common than a circle left, right hand 
star (or circle right, left hand star). The reversal of direction makes 
it more likely that the minor set will return to their current "home." 
And, it feels good! That reversal of direction.


The star into a DSD with someone within that star means someone needs 
turn back to find someone. In Seth's dance, it's the woman who needs to 
turn back. This means (for some) the flow is a bit smoother for the men. 
It's good that it starts with the partner, as partners should be easy to 
identify.


I like this dance as a beginner friendly dance, and know I'll use it.

It could get a bit more challenging by:

A1: With current Neighbors Circle Left (8); with Previous Neighbors Star 
Left (8)

A2: With Current Neighbor DSD (8); with Partner DSD (8)
B1: With Current Neighbor B & S (16)
B2: Long Lines F & B (8); Ones Swing (8)

This adds the challenge of going out and back into your minor set. I'm 
not sure what it's like to flow from a circle with one couple to a star 
with another couple, but my minds eye thinks it would feel good. In some 
ways the back & forth of Nbr DSD,  Ptnr DSD,  Nbr B feels better 
(again, mind's eye -- have to try it in real life...). But those things 
also change it's suitability from interesting beginner & intermediate 
dance to one that's more on the intermediate level.


==
= 2) My Maybe New Dance ==
==

While on the topic I have a possibly new dance, as well. So, I'm asking 
the same question: has it been previously choreographed?


Becket
A1 Women chain, over & back
A2 Bucksaw (Diagonal Left Right & Left thru; Straight Across Right & 
Left thru)

B1 Petronella Balance; Neighbor Swing
B2 Petronella Balance; Partner Swing

Made it up at the end of Mendocino Folklore Week, of things most had 
been doing throughout the week. Still created more of a mix-up than I 
would have liked.


I'm calling it Folklore Frolic, unless I'm informed it's already in the 
lexicon...


~erik hoffman
oakland, ca

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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Chris Lahey via Callers]

The right hand star also flows better into the do-si-do, n'est-ce pas?


On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Aahz Maruch via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:
> >
> > duple minor, improper:
> > A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star
> > A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
> > B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> > B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing
>
> Did you intend to reverse direction or should that be a right-hand star?
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Tepfer, Seth via Callers]

Thanks! Somewhere in the far recesses of my brain a bell was going off that the 
title had been used before.

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On 14-07-14 06:04 AM, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:
> If no one claims it, I'm calling it last minute contra, unless there is 
> already a dance by that name.

http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/search.php?ti=minute
shows "Last Minute Jig" by Tony Parkes (published in "Son of Shadrack").

-Michael
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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Michael Dyck via Callers]

On 14-07-14 06:04 AM, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:

If no one claims it, I'm calling it last minute contra, unless there is already 
a dance by that name.


http://www.ibiblio.org/contradance/index/search.php?ti=minute
shows "Last Minute Jig" by Tony Parkes (published in "Son of Shadrack").

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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[David Notman via Callers]

I couldn't find an exact match in my archive, but here are a couple of 
similar ones


Name: All the Way to Galway DV #1
Author1: Dick Castner
Author2: Dave Notman
ContraForm: Improper
Formation: Duple Minor
Progression: Single
Level: Easy

A1: (8) Active Couples down the center
(8) Separate, come up the outside
A2: (8) Actives Do-si-Do Partner
(8) Neighbor Do-si-Do
B1: (16) Neighbor Balance & Swing
B2: (8) Long Lines Forward & Back
(8) Ones Swing

Name: Weave the Line
Author1: Kathy Anderson
Type: Contra
ContraForm: Improper
Progression: Double

A1: (8) Left-hand star
(8) Circle left
A2: (8) As a couple, partners weave the line past two couples
(8) As individuals, #3 neighbors dosido
B1: (4,12) {Turn around} #2 neighbor balance and swing
B2: (8) Long lines go forward and back
(8) 1's swing; end facing down

My guess is that Kathy reversed the more typical circle/star sequence to 
make the dance flow into the weave-the-line.


For those interested in the unmodified version of "All the Way to Galway"...

Name: All the Way to Galway
Author1: Dick Castner
Type: Contra
ContraForm: Improper
Progression: Single

A1: (8) Active Couples down the center
(8) Separate, come up the outside
A2: (8) Actives Do-si-Do Partner
(8) Neighbor Do-si-Do
B1: (16) Neighbor Balance & Swing
B2: (8) Promenade Across
(8) Right & Left Through








On 07/14/2014 09:04 AM, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:

Does this dance already exist? I made it up on the spot, but I'd be shocked if 
it didn't already exist. If no one claims it, I'm calling it last minute 
contra, unless there is already a dance by that name.

duple minor, improper:
A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star
A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing

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Re: [Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Aahz Maruch via Callers]

On Mon, Jul 14, 2014, Tepfer, Seth via Callers wrote:
>
> duple minor, improper:
> A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star 
> A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
> B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
> B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing

Did you intend to reverse direction or should that be a right-hand star?
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[Callers] does this dance already exist?

[Tepfer, Seth via Callers]

Does this dance already exist? I made it up on the spot, but I'd be shocked if 
it didn't already exist. If no one claims it, I'm calling it last minute 
contra, unless there is already a dance by that name.

duple minor, improper:
A1: (8) Circle Left; (8) Left hand Star 
A2: (8) Partner DSD; (8) Neighbor DSD
B1: (16) Neighbor balance and swing
B2: (8) Long lines; (8)1s swing

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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[James Saxe]

I've never called "Slow M'Ocean", but from diagramming it on paper
it seems to me that the A1/A2 should work perfectly well (and leave
dancers back in their original starting positions at the end of A2)
if men and women advance EQUALLY to get into the swings.  In this
case, the "Pass thru to an Ocean Wave" actions in A2 will have
everyone passing the same opposite-sex neighbor as in A1 (but the
same-sex neighbors will be different for both men and women).  In
Michael's interpretation, if I understand it correctly, the Ocean
Waves have the same pairs of men in A2 as in A1.  I suspect very
strongly that my interpretation is the one the author (April Blum)
intended, but I invite her to speak for herself on the matter.

The progression in B2 where couples pass by W's R shoulder and loop
R (relative to out-facing direction, i.e., clockwise around a big
oval) is rather unusual and is the part that I'd expect to give the
most difficulty.

--Jim

Michael Barraclough wrote:


I called this in Baltimore last night (? world premier).

It is a good dance but it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to ensure that the  
men

do not move from where they are in the swings in A1/A2.  I taught it
emphasizing this and called it thus.  However, as I reduced my  
calling,

so the men started moving.  The result is that the positions move and
couples don't know who the opposite couple is with ultimate chaos as  
odd

couples get left out in the middle of the dance.  I stopped the dance,
re-emphasized the need for the men to stay put and we were just fine
when they heeded the advice!

Michael Barraclough
www.michaelbarraclough.com

On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 17:10 -0500, hgrast...@aol.com wrote:

Wrote this one on my way back from calling Norfolk.

Slow M'Ocean
Becket

A1  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave (Ps are facing in opposite  
directions).
Balance forward and back. Swing your SHADOW (who is facing you in  
the next

wave). (Gents, make the ladies come to you.) End facing across.
A2  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave. Balance F/B -- swing your Partner,  
who is

facing you in the next wave. End facing your original Ns.
B1 Ladies  chain to your N.  Ladies allemande R 1.5 (continue to  
hold Rt

hands)
B2 Ladies pick up your partner, star promenade across with a   
butterfly
whirl (to the lady's side).  Promenade across (to gent's side),   
with ladies
passing RIGHT shoulders, and curl RIGHT to face the next neighbor,   
ready to

pass the Ocean.

I can't think of another dance that starts this way -- anybody?

April Blum
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Michael Barraclough]

I called this in Baltimore last night (? world premier).

It is a good dance but it is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL to ensure that the men
do not move from where they are in the swings in A1/A2.  I taught it
emphasizing this and called it thus.  However, as I reduced my calling,
so the men started moving.  The result is that the positions move and
couples don't know who the opposite couple is with ultimate chaos as odd
couples get left out in the middle of the dance.  I stopped the dance,
re-emphasized the need for the men to stay put and we were just fine
when they heeded the advice!

Michael Barraclough
www.michaelbarraclough.com

On Mon, 2013-02-18 at 17:10 -0500, hgrast...@aol.com wrote:
> Wrote this one on my way back from calling Norfolk.
>  
> Slow M'Ocean
> Becket
>  
> A1  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave (Ps are facing in opposite directions).  
> Balance forward and back. Swing your SHADOW (who is facing you in the next  
> wave). (Gents, make the ladies come to you.) End facing across. 
> A2  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave. Balance F/B -- swing your Partner, who is  
> facing you in the next wave. End facing your original Ns. 
> B1 Ladies  chain to your N.  Ladies allemande R 1.5 (continue to hold Rt  
> hands)
> B2 Ladies pick up your partner, star promenade across with a  butterfly 
> whirl (to the lady's side).  Promenade across (to gent's side),  with ladies 
> passing RIGHT shoulders, and curl RIGHT to face the next neighbor,  ready to 
> pass the Ocean. 
>  
> I can't think of another dance that starts this way -- anybody?  
>  
> April Blum
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Re: [Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Linda Leslie]

Although it is a very different dance, I wrote a dance which starts in  
this way. It was written in November 2008, to celebrate the wedding of  
very close friends of mine. Here it is.

Linda
The Fabulous Couple
by Linda Leslie
Contra/Becket-CW/Int

A1  Pass through to an ocean wave
Balance (shadow is in the next wave, facing you, and on the right a bit)
Shadow do si do (turn around and go back to your original wave, but  
you will be facing the opposite direction!)

A2  Same wave (but now have partner in your left) Balance the wave
Ladies allemande right one half
Balance the wave

B1 Walk forward to new neighbor and gypsy (this neighbor will be a bit  
to the left) and Swing

B2 Give and take to the ladies' side
   (start dance again with this couple)



On Feb 18, 2013, at 5:10 PM, hgrast...@aol.com wrote:


Wrote this one on my way back from calling Norfolk.

Slow M'Ocean
Becket

A1  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave (Ps are facing in opposite directions).
Balance forward and back. Swing your SHADOW (who is facing you in  
the next

wave). (Gents, make the ladies come to you.) End facing across.
A2  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave. Balance F/B -- swing your Partner,  
who is

facing you in the next wave. End facing your original Ns.
B1 Ladies  chain to your N.  Ladies allemande R 1.5 (continue to  
hold Rt

hands)
B2 Ladies pick up your partner, star promenade across with a   
butterfly
whirl (to the lady's side).  Promenade across (to gent's side),   
with ladies
passing RIGHT shoulders, and curl RIGHT to face the next neighbor,   
ready to

pass the Ocean.

I can't think of another dance that starts this way -- anybody?

April Blum
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[Callers] Does this dance already exist?

[Hgrastorf]

Wrote this one on my way back from calling Norfolk.

Slow M'Ocean
Becket

A1  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave (Ps are facing in opposite directions).  
Balance forward and back. Swing your SHADOW (who is facing you in the next  
wave). (Gents, make the ladies come to you.) End facing across. 
A2  Pass thru to an Ocean Wave. Balance F/B -- swing your Partner, who is  
facing you in the next wave. End facing your original Ns. 
B1 Ladies  chain to your N.  Ladies allemande R 1.5 (continue to hold Rt  
hands)
B2 Ladies pick up your partner, star promenade across with a  butterfly 
whirl (to the lady's side).  Promenade across (to gent's side),  with ladies 
passing RIGHT shoulders, and curl RIGHT to face the next neighbor,  ready to 
pass the Ocean. 

I can't think of another dance that starts this way -- anybody?  

April Blum