Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-11-01 Thread Luke Donforth via Callers
Hello all, I had the pleasure of calling last night, to a mostly experienced crowd of dancers (although I didn't recognize everyone in their costumes). The third dance of the evening was the first one with a gypsy; and I took 30 seconds to explain I was deliberately replacing the word gypsy with

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-31 Thread Kalia Kliban via Callers
On 10/31/2015 2:28 AM, Erik Hoffman via Callers wrote: OK, Adding Gyre to the top of the list. Makes me wonder what the move "gimble" will look like... And a quick look at another minor fascination of mine: Gypsy Jazz. Don't know if they're looking for a replacement word... ~erik hoffman o

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-31 Thread Erik Hoffman via Callers
OK, Adding Gyre to the top of the list. Makes me wonder what the move "gimble" will look like... And a quick look at another minor fascination of mine: Gypsy Jazz. Don't know if they're looking for a replacement word... ~erik hoffman oakland, ca On 10/29/2015 1:24 AM, Erik Hoffman via Ca

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Fischer via Callers
Alan, thank you so much for posting that link. I've been completely ignorant about the Romani people, and after reading that brief article I plan to learn more. Richard On Oct 30, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Winston, Alan P. via Callers wrote: > > > On 10/30/2015 2:08 PM, John Sweeney via Callers wrot

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread Winston, Alan P. via Callers
On 10/30/2015 2:08 PM, John Sweeney via Callers wrote: Pleas could you clarify how you intend to pronounce "gyre"? I have been saying "gyre" with a hard "g" as in "give" or "gimble". But if it is related to "gyrate" then maybe people are using a soft "g" and making it sound like "jire". Whic

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Fischer via Callers
For those who may not have access to the online OED, here the beginning of the entry for the noun "gyre." I agree that "gyre" is a good candidate! (OED = Oxford English Dictionary; and the pronunciation given is the "jire" one.) gyre, n. View as: Outline |Full entryKeywords: On |OffQuotations:

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread JD Erskine iDance via Callers
On 2015-10-30 1408, John Sweeney via Callers wrote: Pleas could you clarify how you intend to pronounce "gyre"? I have been saying "gyre" with a hard "g" as in "give" or "gimble". But if it is related to "gyrate" then maybe people are using a soft "g" and making it sound like "jire". Which do

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread Perry Shafran via Callers
FWIW, one of the supercomputers I work with is named Gyre, and it is generally pronounced with a soft get (as in "gin"). Perry Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:"John Sweeney via Callers" Date:Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:09 PM Subject:Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis Pleas c

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-30 Thread John Sweeney via Callers
Pleas could you clarify how you intend to pronounce "gyre"? I have been saying "gyre" with a hard "g" as in "give" or "gimble". But if it is related to "gyrate" then maybe people are using a soft "g" and making it sound like "jire". Which do you use? Thanks. By the way, I am still having major

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Delia Clark via Callers
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Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Charles M. Hannum via Callers
While we're complaining, I think I object to having dance terminology drawn from a dead writer's drug trip. As for “mad robin”, I'm still for renaming it “angry bird”. On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Lewis Carroll may h

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Jacob or Nancy Bloom via Callers
Lewis Carroll may have defined the word that way on one occasion, but Humpty Dumpty defined the word as "to go round and round like a gyroscope." And Humpty Dumpty was an expert on getting words to mean what you pay them to mean! And William Butler Yeats said, in his poem The Second Coming, "Turn

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Rich Sbardella via Callers
Martha, gyre is an excellent option,but now we'll have to develop a basic move called "chortle". It has such a ring to it. Rich On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Martha Wild via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > Gyre makes me chortle. Could work. > Martha > > On Oct 29, 2015, at

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread John Sweeney via Callers
Sorry, but in 1855, in the magazine Misch-Masch, Lewis Carroll defined Gyre as follows: "Gyre, verb (derived from GYAOUR or GIAOUR, 'a dog'). To scratch like a dog." So, nope, nothing to do with gyration! And, I have always understood it to be pronounced with a hard "g" as in "give". My dictiona

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
Gyre makes me chortle. Could work. Martha On Oct 29, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Amy Wimmer via Callers wrote: > I LOVE that word as a replacement for "gypsy." It makes absolute sense and > conveys the idea of the move perfectly. > -Amy > > On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:23 AM, bill fischer via Callers > wrot

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Amy Wimmer via Callers
I LOVE that word as a replacement for "gypsy." It makes absolute sense and conveys the idea of the move perfectly. -Amy On Oct 29, 2015, at 9:23 AM, bill fischer via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: blessings linda having read volumes of only occasionally interesting thoughts ab

[Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread bill fischer via Callers
blessings linda having read volumes of only occasionally interesting thoughts about this subject, i am delighted to give a powerful second to the suggestion of gyre the word’s use in the two works cited - two of my favorites - cements its appeal for me grateful for you!! cheers down the road...

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Harris Lapiroff via Callers
We'd probably have a conversation much like this one. I hope we'll always have conversations like this when told something that we do is hurtful to someone. It would probably be a different conversation, though, since Germans have not been thought to be persecuted, stereotyped, and economically opp

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Linda Leslie via Callers
Thanks, Erik for summarizing. It is very helpful to have the list below. I have one other suggestion to add for consideration for those who wish to make a change in terms. Gyre can be found in Carol’s “Jabberwocky" and Yeats’ "The Second Coming". It has the advantage of being one syllable, not

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
Erik, thanks for assembling that list. What we also need a list of is that of all of the categories to determine which terms are better than others. For example, I can start us off: - term should not sound too much like an existing contra dance term - clear and easy to say and hear on the mic/mon

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Alan Winston via Callers
On 10/29/15 2:45 AM, Jeff Kaufman via Callers wrote: On Oct 29, 2015 4:24 AM, "Erik Hoffman via Callers" > wrote: > > > No Hand Allemande (and I do think Allemande comes from "The German," a dance) > I wonder what we'll do if we discover that

Re: [Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Jeff Kaufman via Callers
On Oct 29, 2015 4:24 AM, "Erik Hoffman via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > No Hand Allemande (and I do think Allemande comes from "The German," a dance) > I wonder what we'll do if we discover that to some Germans the French term "Allemande" is derogatory and they p

[Callers] Gypsy Synopsis

2015-10-29 Thread Erik Hoffman via Callers
On the subject of gypsies and language, I've enjoyed reading the myriad comments, and find myself feeling ambiguous (which I define as feeling very strongly both ways). And, I know it's been thrashed about and we've a request for acknowledging that we are unlikely to change any opinions on this