Re: [Callers] [External] Re: Opposite StarThru and functional difference in LD v Slide
I did think about writing that other part out but... ;-). Of course you'd specify with whom they're interacting. On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 1:11 AM jim saxe wrote: > On Mar 24, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Don Veino via Callers < > callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > > > I think I've actually heard Arizona Twirl from somewhere as well. > > > > In the interest of keeping the lexicon as small as possible, why not > just say "with inside hands, twirl to swap" or similar? > > From the position of facing couples, if the caller says "with inside > hands, twirl to swap," would that mean that you're supposed to do the > "twirl to swap" with the dancer beside you, or would it mean that you're > supposed to do it with the dancer facing you? I thing that without > additional words (and without the benefit of a previous walk-through), the > meaning isn't obvious. Adn if dancers think the meaning *is* obvious, they > might not all come up with the same "obvious" meaning that the caller > intended. > > --Jim > > ___ List Name: Callers mailing list List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
Re: [Callers] [External] Re: Opposite StarThru and functional difference in LD v Slide
On Mar 24, 2019, at 9:51 PM, Don Veino via Callers wrote: > > I think I've actually heard Arizona Twirl from somewhere as well. > > In the interest of keeping the lexicon as small as possible, why not just say > "with inside hands, twirl to swap" or similar? >From the position of facing couples, if the caller says "with inside hands, >twirl to swap," would that mean that you're supposed to do the "twirl to swap" >with the dancer beside you, or would it mean that you're supposed to do it >with the dancer facing you? I thing that without additional words (and >without the benefit of a previous walk-through), the meaning isn't obvious. >Adn if dancers think the meaning *is* obvious, they might not all come up with >the same "obvious" meaning that the caller intended. --Jim ___ List Name: Callers mailing list List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
Re: [Callers] [External] Re: Opposite StarThru and functional difference in LD v Slide
I think I've actually heard Arizona Twirl from somewhere as well. In the interest of keeping the lexicon as small as possible, why not just say "with inside hands, twirl to swap" or similar? -Don On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 9:03 PM Tepfer, Seth via Callers < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > I believe Rick Mohr called it a Nevada twirl in one of his dances. > -- > *From:* Andy Shore > *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:53:43 PM > *To:* Tepfer, Seth > *Cc:* callers > *Subject:* [External] Re: [Callers] Opposite StarThru and functional > difference in LD v Slide > > > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:57 AM Tepfer, Seth via Callers < > callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > > Two questions: > > 1) We have box the gnat (right hand to right hand), swat the flea (left > hand to left hand), and star thru (Lark/Gent right hand to Lady/Raven left > hand). What is the name of the opposite of a star thru (Lark/Gent left > hand to Lady/Raven right hand)? > > > > MWSD offers one option, probably not a term to use in a contra setting. > > *Arky Star Thru* is a position dependent (rather than dance role > dependent version): > > From Facing Couples. > Beaus do the Boys part, and Belles do the Girls part of a Star Thru. > (Everybody uses the inside hand) > Ends in Facing Couples. > https://www.ceder.net/oldcalls/viewsingle.php?RecordId=155 > > > This is not exactly what you asked for, which is to use the OTHER HAND > than typical of your role, but independent of your position. > > *Left Star Thru (edited slightly)* > From a boy facing a girl: boy holds left hand up and girl places her right > palm against it. boy steps forward and does a quarter left as the girl > passes the boy left shoulders under the raised arms and does a quarter > right. Finishes as a couple. > https://www.ceder.net/oldcalls/viewsingle.php?RecordId=3616 > > > Note that Bob Isaacs uses "Jersey Twirl" for a wrong-side California Twirl > with the Lark going under. > > Note that California Twirl (and Jersey Twirl) are 180˚ turns, while Star > Thru and Arky Star Thru are 90˚ turns. > > /Andy Shore > > > > -- > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments). > ___ > List Name: Callers mailing list > List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net > Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/ > ___ List Name: Callers mailing list List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
Re: [Callers] [External] Re: Opposite StarThru and functional difference in LD v Slide
I believe Rick Mohr called it a Nevada twirl in one of his dances. From: Andy Shore Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2019 6:53:43 PM To: Tepfer, Seth Cc: callers Subject: [External] Re: [Callers] Opposite StarThru and functional difference in LD v Slide On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:57 AM Tepfer, Seth via Callers mailto:callers@lists.sharedweight.net>> wrote: Two questions: 1) We have box the gnat (right hand to right hand), swat the flea (left hand to left hand), and star thru (Lark/Gent right hand to Lady/Raven left hand). What is the name of the opposite of a star thru (Lark/Gent left hand to Lady/Raven right hand)? MWSD offers one option, probably not a term to use in a contra setting. Arky Star Thru is a position dependent (rather than dance role dependent version): From Facing Couples. Beaus do the Boys part, and Belles do the Girls part of a Star Thru. (Everybody uses the inside hand) Ends in Facing Couples. https://www.ceder.net/oldcalls/viewsingle.php?RecordId=155 This is not exactly what you asked for, which is to use the OTHER HAND than typical of your role, but independent of your position. Left Star Thru (edited slightly) From a boy facing a girl: boy holds left hand up and girl places her right palm against it. boy steps forward and does a quarter left as the girl passes the boy left shoulders under the raised arms and does a quarter right. Finishes as a couple. https://www.ceder.net/oldcalls/viewsingle.php?RecordId=3616 Note that Bob Isaacs uses "Jersey Twirl" for a wrong-side California Twirl with the Lark going under. Note that California Twirl (and Jersey Twirl) are 180˚ turns, while Star Thru and Arky Star Thru are 90˚ turns. /Andy Shore This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the original message (including attachments). ___ List Name: Callers mailing list List Address: Callers@lists.sharedweight.net Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/callers@lists.sharedweight.net/
