Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

2019-06-09 Thread Don Veino via Callers
I was aware of Lynn's dance but not Ron's when I came up with the
following. As a happy coincidence it's a sort of hybrid of the two in 32
bars.

I originally envisioned the last part of the B2 as an outward-facing CCW
circle 1/2 (i.e.: "circle left" to those in the circle) - that's the path
the individual lines/4 end up taking on the floor. As the lines/4 approach
worked, I never ended up trying an actual outward circle formation (concern
re: possible dancer shoulders/elbows strain).

-Don

BOSTON CREAM PIE – 4 FACE 4 – DON VEINO 20161005

A1
LLF
Center 4 Star Right 1x

A2
Partner Allemande Left 1+1/2x
(new) Center 4 Star Right 1x

B1
Partner Balance & Swing

B2
Current Ring/8 Balance, California Twirl (to facing prior Neighbors)
[Take hands in line/4 with Trail Buddies]
Left End Gent/Lark Tow Your Line (in an arc, over left shoulder) to face
new Line/4

http://veino.com/blog/?p=1401

On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 8:41 PM Winston, Alan P. via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie
> Quadrille, by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a
> "Devil's Backbone" progression.
>
> I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody
> misattributed the dance to him and got the name wrong.
>
> Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the
> trad-dance-callers list:
>
>
> APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
> Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
> Four Facing Four
>
> Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
> Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.
>
> A-1  Lines of Four, Forward and Back
> (Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)
>
> Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
> Star Right Once Around  (8)
>
> A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half  (8)
>
> Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
> Star Right Once Around (8)
>
> B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)
>
> B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
>  invert line.  Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
>  face original direction and a new line of four. (16)
>
>
> Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
> End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.
>
>
> Original dance:
>
> A-1 Lines forward and back (8)  All do sa do opposite dancer(8)
> A-2 Centre four star right (8)  All allemande left with partner x
> 3/2   (8)
> B-1 New centre four star right (8)  All swing partners  (8)
> B-2 Circle left all eight once round(16)
> C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
> to face the next line   (16)
>
>
>
> -- Alan
>
>
> On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
>
> I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by
> Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:
>
> 4 Facing 4
> A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
>  middles star R once
> A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
>  new middles star R once
> B1 Partner balance & swing
> B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
>  Balance ring, partner California twirl
>
>
> So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> choreographers attributed?
>
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Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

2019-06-09 Thread Dugan Murphy via Callers
Hi, Liz,

I have that choreography as "Coconut Cream Pie" by Lynn Ackerson.  I
collected it that way from Nils Fredland a few years ago.

Dugan Murphy
(he/him)
Portland, Maine
dugan at duganmurphy.com
www.DuganMurphy.com
www.PortlandIntownContraDance.com
www.NufSed.consulting


Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 20:36:43 -0400
> > From: Liz Burkhart 
> > To: callers@lists.sharedweight.net
> > Subject: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?
> >
> > I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff
> by
> > Nils Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it
> > online, discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same
> > dance:
> >
> > 4 Facing 4
> > A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
> >  middles star R once
> > A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
> >  new middles star R once
> > B1 Partner balance & swing
> > B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
> >  Balance ring, partner California twirl
> >
> >
> > So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two
> > choreographers attributed?
>
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Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

2019-05-31 Thread Bill Baritompa via Callers
Hi All,

In the first video link in Callers Box, one dancer is doing an interesting 
addition at A2b:

A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2;
New middles star R once WHILE new ends Neighbor swing.

Cheers, Bill

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Re: [Callers] Coconut Cream Puff vs Pie + choreographer?

2019-05-29 Thread Winston, Alan P. via Callers
My understanding is that Lynn adapted Ron Beeson's dance, Apple Pie Quadrille, 
by changing B2 into a can't-fail circle progression from a "Devil's Backbone" 
progression.

I'm going to guess that Nils called it at a dance and somebody misattributed 
the dance to him and got the name wrong.

Here's the notation Ridge Kennedy posted for Apple Pie Quadrille on the 
trad-dance-callers list:


APPLE PIE QUADRILLE
Ron Beeson (via Ridge Kennedy)
Four Facing Four

Called by Kathy Anderson at Buffalo gap 2002
Ask for lively music that's a bit silly to suit the dance.

A-1  Lines of Four, Forward and Back
(Reminder - this is original direction!) (8)

Center Four (dancers in the middle of each line of four):
Star Right Once Around  (8)

A-2 Partners Allemande Left Once and a Half  (8)

Ends (Original ends of each line of four, now Center Four)
Star Right Once Around (8)

B-1 Partners balance and swing (16)

B-2 "End Man" (Man on left end of line):Lead back over left shoulder to
 invert line.  Lead around the *other* end of the other line and all
 face original direction and a new line of four. (16)


Notes: Tricky Part: Leading the line back and around is counter-intuitive.
End man starts turning in opposite direction that his line is progressing.


Original dance:

A-1 Lines forward and back (8)  All do sa do opposite dancer(8)
A-2 Centre four star right (8)  All allemande left with partner x 3/2   
(8)
B-1 New centre four star right (8)  All swing partners  (8)
B-2 Circle left all eight once round(16)
C-1 The left hand man casts left taking his line around the other line
to face the next line   (16)



-- Alan


On 5/29/2019 5:36 PM, Liz Burkhart via Callers wrote:
I have found two identical dances. First I collected Coconut Cream Puff by Nils 
Fredland, then I lost the card, and in the process of looking for it online, 
discovered Coconut Cream Pie by Lynn Ackerson. It is the same dance:

4 Facing 4
A1 Lines of 4 go forward and back
 middles star R once
A2 Partner allemande L 1 1/2
 new middles star R once
B1 Partner balance & swing
B2 All 8 circle L 1/2 (4 places)
 Balance ring, partner California twirl


So who really wrote it? Does anyone know why there are two names and two 
choreographers attributed?



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