Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Maia McCormick via Callers]

Called Bob's "Return 2 Sender" this past Thursday at Mt. Airy, PA -- what a
good dance!!

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Bob Isaacs via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hi All:
>
> As Luke noted, there are two dances with similar names.  The first is:
>
> Return to Sender
> Becket-L, double, 7/18/00
>
> A1.  L diagonal R and L through, ladies chain to neighbor
> A2.  Hey (LR, PL, GR, NL) - give R to N
> B1.  Balance, box the gnat and pull by R, gents allemande L 1 1/2
> B2.  Partner balance, swing
>
> On 5/19/03 I wrote Return 2 Sender, the same dance below that Luke
> re-discovered.  With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is
> objectively better.
>
> For both I offer the following teaching tip: at the end of the hey take R
> with neighbor and have all face across, so for Return 2 Sender the ladies
> are back to back.  Then have all take a small step to their L as the ideal
> position to finish the hey (if facing across is 12 o'clock/6 o'clock, then
> slightly L of across is 1 o'clock/7 o'clock).  Then after the box the gnat
> and pull by, the ladies have a clearer path into the allemande L -
>
> Bob
>
>
> Becket
> A1
> Circle left 3/4
> Neighbor swing
> A2
> Gents start hey for 4 by left
> B1
> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
> B2
> Partner balance and swing
> Slide left
>
> Happy dancing
>
> --
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>
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Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Yoyo Zhou via Callers]

I was trying to come up with a dance last night that fit different
parameters (full hey, no chain, and more balances), but it ends up fitting
Luke's parameters too. I ended up not using this one, but has Bob (or
another choreographer) written it already?

Becket
A1: (slide left to progress,) circle left 3/4, N swing
A2: full hey for 4, gents pass left; the second time ladies meet, they
ricochet; make long waves, right hand to P
B1: balance right, slide right; balance left, slide left
B2: P balance, swing

Thanks,
Yoyo Zhou

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Colin Hume via Callers]

(Sending to the list this time!)

On Mon, 9 May 2016 18:37:23 -0400, Bob Isaacs via Callers wrote:
> With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is objectively better.

Bob -

That depends on your objectives!  The original Becket Reel was a double 
progression and I generally prefer that.  And in England
the swing isn't seen as the main part of a contra and contras don't go on 
nearly so long, so I (objectively) prefer your first
version and will call that!

Colin Hume

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Bob Isaacs via Callers]

Hi All:
 
As Luke noted, there are two dances with similar names.  The first is:
 
Return to Sender
Becket-L, double, 7/18/00
 
A1.  L diagonal R and L through, ladies chain to neighbor
A2.  Hey (LR, PL, GR, NL) - give R to N
B1.  Balance, box the gnat and pull by R, gents allemande L 1 1/2
B2.  Partner balance, swing
 
On 5/19/03 I wrote Return 2 Sender, the same dance below that Luke 
re-discovered.  With a neighbor swing and a single progression, this is 
objectively better.
 
For both I offer the following teaching tip: at the end of the hey take R with 
neighbor and have all face across, so for Return 2 Sender the ladies are back 
to back.  Then have all take a small step to their L as the ideal position to 
finish the hey (if facing across is 12 o'clock/6 o'clock, then slightly L of 
across is 1 o'clock/7 o'clock).  Then after the box the gnat and pull by, the 
ladies have a clearer path into the allemande L - 
 
Bob
 
 
BecketA1Circle left 3/4Neighbor swingA2Gents start hey for 4 by leftB1Right to 
neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnatPull by right, 
women allemande left 1 1/2B2Partner balance and swingSlide left
Happy dancing

--
Luke Donforth
luke.donfo...@gmail.com




  

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Luke Donforth via Callers]

Two corrections:

The Bob Isaacs composition that I accidentally duplicated is "Return 2
Sender".
"Return to Sender" is a different Bob Isaacs dance with a double
progression.

I'm now proposing Vallimont's Silver Hammer be the following dance instead:

Becket
A1
Circle Left
Neighbor Swing
A2
Promenade across with neighbor
Ladies chain to partner
B1
Right to neighbor, balance and pull by; pull by partner left
shadow DSD 1x
B2
Partner Balance and Swing
slide left

(That is, unless that one exists as well; in which case I'll write her a
different one.)

Happy dancing

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Robert Golder via Callers]

The dance name "Return to Sender" may always now seem a bit ironic to you, but 
there are worse things in life than to come up with choreography so good that 
Bob Isaacs got there first.  

On May 9, 2016, at 3:23 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers 
 wrote:

> And it turns out it's already been written:
> Bob Isaacs called it "Return to Sender"
> 
> Sorry for the false alarm. 
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Luke Donforth  wrote:
> My tentative name (assuming the composition doesn't already exist) is 
> Vallimont's Silver Hammer. The dance came out of a conversation with the 
> talented musician Julie Vallimont (just got permission to use the name) about 
> closing sets; and how callers like dances that end with swings but bands 
> often have something that builds to a big hit at the A to B transition in the 
> music.
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jerome Grisanti  
> wrote:
> Luke,
> 
> I don't recognize it, but it looks fun.
> 
> Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your 
> desire for the balance at the top of the B sections?
> 
> --Jerome
> 
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
> 
> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power 
> and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
> 
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers 
>  wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at the 
> top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir #2 or 
> Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it worked 
> well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already existed: 
> 
> Becket
> A1
> Circle left 3/4
> Neighbor swing
> A2
> Gents start hey for 4 by left
> B1
> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
> B2
> Partner balance and swing
> Slide left
> 
> Happy dancing
> 
> -- 
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Luke Donforth via Callers]

And it turns out it's already been written:
Bob Isaacs called it "Return to Sender"

Sorry for the false alarm.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Luke Donforth  wrote:

> My tentative name (assuming the composition doesn't already exist) is
> Vallimont's Silver Hammer. The dance came out of a conversation with the
> talented musician Julie Vallimont (just got permission to use the name)
> about closing sets; and how callers like dances that end with swings but
> bands often have something that builds to a big hit at the A to B
> transition in the music.
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jerome Grisanti  > wrote:
>
>> Luke,
>>
>> I don't recognize it, but it looks fun.
>>
>> Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your
>> desire for the balance at the top of the B sections?
>>
>> --Jerome
>>
>> Jerome Grisanti
>> 660-528-0858
>> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>>
>> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and
>> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>>
>> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
>> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at
>>> the top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir
>>> #2 or Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it
>>> worked well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already
>>> existed:
>>>
>>> Becket
>>> A1
>>> Circle left 3/4
>>> Neighbor swing
>>> A2
>>> Gents start hey for 4 by left
>>> B1
>>> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
>>> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
>>> B2
>>> Partner balance and swing
>>> Slide left
>>>
>>> Happy dancing
>>>
>>> --
>>> Luke Donforth
>>> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>>>
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>>
>
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>



-- 
Luke Donforth
luke.donfo...@gmail.com 

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Luke Donforth via Callers]

My tentative name (assuming the composition doesn't already exist) is
Vallimont's Silver Hammer. The dance came out of a conversation with the
talented musician Julie Vallimont (just got permission to use the name)
about closing sets; and how callers like dances that end with swings but
bands often have something that builds to a big hit at the A to B
transition in the music.

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Jerome Grisanti 
wrote:

> Luke,
>
> I don't recognize it, but it looks fun.
>
> Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your
> desire for the balance at the top of the B sections?
>
> --Jerome
>
> Jerome Grisanti
> 660-528-0858
> http://www.jeromegrisanti.com
>
> "Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and
> power and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
>
> On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
> callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at
>> the top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir
>> #2 or Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it
>> worked well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already
>> existed:
>>
>> Becket
>> A1
>> Circle left 3/4
>> Neighbor swing
>> A2
>> Gents start hey for 4 by left
>> B1
>> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
>> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
>> B2
>> Partner balance and swing
>> Slide left
>>
>> Happy dancing
>>
>> --
>> Luke Donforth
>> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>>
>> ___
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>>
>>
>


-- 
Luke Donforth
luke.donfo...@gmail.com 

Re: [Callers] New (?) dance, B1 balance, B2 balance and partner swing

[Jerome Grisanti via Callers]

Luke,

I don't recognize it, but it looks fun.

Just curious ... did you have a particular tune in mind that shaped your
desire for the balance at the top of the B sections?

--Jerome

Jerome Grisanti
660-528-0858
http://www.jeromegrisanti.com

"Whatever you do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius and power
and magic in it." --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Luke Donforth via Callers <
callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I was trying to write a nice end-of-evening dance that had a balance at
> the top of B1, and ended with a partner swing (that wasn't Old Time Elixir
> #2 or Tica Tica timing...) and came up with this. I think it's new, and it
> worked well in Montreal recently; but I'd like to know if it already
> existed:
>
> Becket
> A1
> Circle left 3/4
> Neighbor swing
> A2
> Gents start hey for 4 by left
> B1
> Right to neighbor (women back to back in middle), balance and box gnat
> Pull by right, women allemande left 1 1/2
> B2
> Partner balance and swing
> Slide left
>
> Happy dancing
>
> --
> Luke Donforth
> luke.donfo...@gmail.com 
>
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